Hi everyone! Two quick questions. Any opinions on the Olhausen pro tables? I've played a little on one and they seem nice, rails seem very lively. Are they built to last etc.? Also any opinions on predator pool school, 2 day event. I am a C or C plus player, and improving pretty quickly, are they worth it for someone at my level? thanks in advance, Mick
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pooltablemech
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Olhausen pro tables............They make a nice table. I don't know right off hand what they retail for, but they are fine tables. The 7k added tourny in Ft Walton coming up is using those. And I heard they are selling them right after.
I believe they are around 4000 without ball return
Paying $750 for a 2 day school doesn't make much sense to me. Unless I want to impress my friends that I was rubbing elbos with some top players. Unfortunately, my friends are not that easily impressed. Even if I tried to apply myself for eight hours each day how much of what they are saying will sink in and will I be able to remember it? I personally would rather take private lessons at $50 per hour in 2 hour blocks and spread it out over a couple of months. Some pros will even charge less. Then I would have a whole week to work on what I learned at my weekly lesson. Unfortunately, there are no instructors near me. Jake
jjinfla said:
Jake,
Do you know anyone who went to this pro school? I only know two people, which is not a very big number. IMO, that school is geared towards pretty advanced folks.
I liked Randy's school quite a bit and he has a school above the one I took that covers the same stuff that the pred one covers.
I,myself, have had randys school and scott lee 3x in the last yearand have seen buckets of improvement in my play, but of course, was very much a beginner, when I started.
Scott told me not to use any numbers like sl or abcd referring to myself, also. Seems like these numbers vary widely geographically and do not tell anything about what a person can do at the table in various aspects of the game.
Laura
jjinfla said:
If you do the math, your preference of $50/hour equates to $400/day for an 8 hour day of lessons. Seems that $750 for two days isn't so bad, especially if you consider that with the Predator Pool School, you get 15 hours of instruction with Johnny Archer, Mika Immonen, and Charlie Williams. I'd take that any day over $50/hr with the local hotshot. If you're worried about remembering all that information, there's nothing wrong with writing that info down in a notebook. Even in a one- or two-hour lesson with your local hotshot, you should write the information down. You can't trust yourself to remember everything. By the way, just to add a little perspective, Allison Fisher has a two-day academy (along with Gerda Hofstatter), and she charges $1500!
Olh's top of the line tables don't even sell for $2000 used.
They have terrible resale value.
They were selling them after the WPBA event in San Diego years ago.
I played on one. I did not like it at all. The same table Jeannete beat Allison on. The pockets were huge and the rails were bouncing balls. Especially in the corners. I checked the bottom of the table. I saw plywood framing.
They have terrible resale value.
They were selling them after the WPBA event in San Diego years ago.
I played on one. I did not like it at all. The same table Jeannete beat Allison on. The pockets were huge and the rails were bouncing balls. Especially in the corners. I checked the bottom of the table. I saw plywood framing.
pooltablemech
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LOL I didn't say I would get one but they are nice. As for the pool school.........you can learn alot for free by watching good players. Go to some of the big tournaments and see the great players play. And ask questions............I can't see what you could get for 750. Around here you can play John Schmidt $5 or 10 one pocket, or races to 11 for $10. Even if I never win a set..........you could get 75 sets at 10 a pop............lol. I am just saying you can learn alot by watching and asking...or getting up there and playing.........rather than paying 750!
I agree with PTM. $750 for a lesson?
I would rather give that to a local qualified instructor who'd watch me play for hours at ends and let him break down my game.
Hell, a hundred dollars with Scott Lee gets you 2+ hours and a video.
I would rather give that to a local qualified instructor who'd watch me play for hours at ends and let him break down my game.
Hell, a hundred dollars with Scott Lee gets you 2+ hours and a video.
pooltablemech
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Yeah actually spend some of that 750 and buy every Burns video he made..........and then spend the rest on table time LOL! I learned alot from Robert Burns.
Robert Byrne, you mean?pooltablemech said:
He's one knowledgeable dude.
I love his commentary on 3-C videos too.
pooltablemech
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Yeah that dude....lol. After I posted it I saw I spelled it wrong. That guy is one of the top teachers. He has great videos for beginners up to good players. I use to watch them again just to keep a good reference. And some of his simple drills are very good practice. He even tells you the correct way to chalk your cue.
I have the Byrne videos, definitely a good reference point. I was thinking a lot of the mental side of pool, talking and listening to persons who have won the biggest events. Would it be a huge benefit for me? I don't know, just asking, mostly interested if students really benefitted from the school. Not interested in impressing anyone in reference to one of the posters,
pooltablemech
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When I said talking to them could be a benifit....I ment their attitude towards the game, I guess. I saw a match once....... Johnny Archer vs Dave Matlock..........Race to 9 in the finals. David had to win two sets. They got hill hill first set and Johnny was shooting th 7 ball............he fired it in with high inside english to get around the table. The cue ball went 3 rails and dropped in the corner!!!!!! Johnny hollared and swung his cue across the table like a bat! Dave obviously runs out! The next set......HILL HILL again! Except this time Dave is shooting the 7 almost exactly the same shot as Johnny earlier.........Dave scrathes too!.......But Dave walked over to Johnny and shook his hands.....and said , Good match. I learned alot by just seeing that match. After that my Hero was Matlock.
Pool Tables, Predator Pool School
The Olhausen table is OK, all manufacturers make a Pool table between so-so level to a Great Table, Brunswick included. I have never like Plywood construction, but it is stronger & if cared for, will not cause problems. The type of plywood used is important too, ask questions.
The Pool Tables' playability function is created by good rubber cushions, good cloth & a flat playing surface. That's it. Ivory, Burled Woods, inlaid veneer do nothing for your Pool Game, same goes for Pool Cues. If your economic status is of a nature that allows you to purchase beautiful items for your vanity, I'm jealous. More power to you.
About Pool Schools & local Instructors. The best Professional Golf Instructor (a nobody as far as the media is concerned, but somebody as far as the players are concerned) can not make it on the PGA Tour. Actually he cannot break 80 everyday.... but he can get you to play better than that, if you have the talent (keyword). A Great Player does not make a Great Teacher & sometimes can't even be a good teacher.
I would not suggest a Pool School for the beginning novice. Too much information has to be digested too quickly. Confusion isn't a good recipe for learning. Taking lessons from a Professional that is locally available for you, is there for tweaking your game from time to time & uses Video for your convenience later, is the Instructor of choice. Using Video can be a great way to see what your doing & what the results are.
Buying the Instructional Books or Videos is a GREAT way to learn. Nothing beats knowlege gained. Knowledge gained means you understand the principals & can perform them to a high degree. If you get anybody's book & take it to a pool table for learning & can someday perform what's in it, you'll be a Player & a good one too..
The Olhausen table is OK, all manufacturers make a Pool table between so-so level to a Great Table, Brunswick included. I have never like Plywood construction, but it is stronger & if cared for, will not cause problems. The type of plywood used is important too, ask questions.
The Pool Tables' playability function is created by good rubber cushions, good cloth & a flat playing surface. That's it. Ivory, Burled Woods, inlaid veneer do nothing for your Pool Game, same goes for Pool Cues. If your economic status is of a nature that allows you to purchase beautiful items for your vanity, I'm jealous. More power to you.
About Pool Schools & local Instructors. The best Professional Golf Instructor (a nobody as far as the media is concerned, but somebody as far as the players are concerned) can not make it on the PGA Tour. Actually he cannot break 80 everyday.... but he can get you to play better than that, if you have the talent (keyword). A Great Player does not make a Great Teacher & sometimes can't even be a good teacher.
I would not suggest a Pool School for the beginning novice. Too much information has to be digested too quickly. Confusion isn't a good recipe for learning. Taking lessons from a Professional that is locally available for you, is there for tweaking your game from time to time & uses Video for your convenience later, is the Instructor of choice. Using Video can be a great way to see what your doing & what the results are.
Buying the Instructional Books or Videos is a GREAT way to learn. Nothing beats knowlege gained. Knowledge gained means you understand the principals & can perform them to a high degree. If you get anybody's book & take it to a pool table for learning & can someday perform what's in it, you'll be a Player & a good one too..