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The cue rack is from the same co.
The cue rack is from the same co.
Tag on the rail
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Hello,
I am trying to find out any information on the company that built these pool tables. I (my father) bought this in 1958 ( when I was 12 yrs. old ) for $25.00. I re-finished it in 1973 after my father-in-law and I built a house in 1972 "around" ( for ) this table ( so to speak )
This table has the # 1843 stamped on each piece, I have another table built by the same people that that has the # 4318 stamped on it that my father aquired in Jersey City and he got it for nothing. What are the chances of that happening .
I purchased some parts (cloth,diamond spots, brass covers for rail bolts,etc.) for it from this store in Jersey City right before it closed in 1975.
Thank you for any information you can supply on this matter !!
Rich K ( RuneSki )
I am trying to find out any information on the company that built these pool tables. I (my father) bought this in 1958 ( when I was 12 yrs. old ) for $25.00. I re-finished it in 1973 after my father-in-law and I built a house in 1972 "around" ( for ) this table ( so to speak )
This table has the # 1843 stamped on each piece, I have another table built by the same people that that has the # 4318 stamped on it that my father aquired in Jersey City and he got it for nothing. What are the chances of that happening .
I purchased some parts (cloth,diamond spots, brass covers for rail bolts,etc.) for it from this store in Jersey City right before it closed in 1975.
Thank you for any information you can supply on this matter !!
Rich K ( RuneSki )
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Rail # 2
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Here is the other rail
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Here is the other rail
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Ray I can understand the # 1843 representing "1/8/1943" being the date that table was made, But I have a hard time understanding how they imprinted #4318 on the other table and having those #'s mean the same as 1/8/1943 for the year made? Not saying your wrong, but geeze , Its driving me crazy trying to figure out when these tables were made !! Thanks again for all your help
I wish there was a way I could get this information !
Sorry to ramble on !!
Rich K ( RuneSki )
Correale sometimes(maybe many, IDK) re-labeled Brunswick tables with their own labels. One ex: https://offerup.com/item/detail/28105683/ You might contact Brunswick for more info.
I don't have any info on the tables. It just seems far fetched in the least that both of these tables were made on the same day. they may just be serial #'s not related to dates? Even that is a remarkable coincidence that both table's #'s contain the same digits.
That's what it looked like to me, from other posts people have said that table installers and supply companies put their own labels and marks on the tables made by others.
This is when Mr Bond would be handy to have back
In the 1st pic with the light oak rail you can clearly see where there was a previous larger diamond shaped tag.
Attached is a pic of a 1918 Brunswick Madison rail plate. My Grandad bought the table in the 1940's when the pool hall was upgrading to newer tables.
Have seen other plates on old Brunswicks several times.
Attached is a pic of a 1918 Brunswick Madison rail plate. My Grandad bought the table in the 1940's when the pool hall was upgrading to newer tables.
Have seen other plates on old Brunswicks several times.
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That is what BLEW my mind and got me wondering. I got the #1843 table in 1958, I was 12 yrs old, it was in a 4 story building slated to be demolished, my dad paid $25.00. It sat apart in 4 different homes until my father-in-law and I built a ranch house ( full basement, 62 ft. long, 32 ft. wide ) for it on a farm in Howell N.J in 1972 ( that cost $17,000 for the material
). I then re-finished it ( new bumpers,cloth and my wife made net pockets out of black heavy nylon cord. I had to re-set all new diamonds , as a kid I took a sander to the rails 
) and set it up in 1973. I worked on it again ( in 1995 ) with the a new cloth and new net pockets from a co. in California. Then in 1978 my father( a carpenter doing work for someone who wanted to get rid of the table) found table # 4318 in a basement in Jersey City and gave it to my father-in-law, never put it together. Now I have it.
Why would a company build 2 totally different tables on the same build date ( one with net pockets vs.one with a ball return, one with diamond spots, vs. one with round spots ,one with no phone # on the brass plate vs. one with a phone # on the other one.
I know, I know ! I said I would let it go.But I gotta find out more about them
Rich K ( RuneSki )
Have you tried contacting Brunswick? Its quite likely they actually built the table and Correale&Sons re-badged and sold it. This was not an uncommon practice back then.That is what BLEW my mind and got me wondering. I got the #1843 table in 1958, I was 12 yrs old, it was in a 4 story building slated to be demolished, my dad paid $25.00. It sat apart in 4 different homes until my father-in-law and I built a ranch house ( full basement, 62 ft. long, 32 ft. wide ) for it on a farm in Howell N.J in 1972 ( that cost $17,000 for the material
Then in 1978 my father( a carpenter doing work for someone who wanted to get rid of the table) found table # 4318 in a basement in Jersey City and gave it to my father-in-law, never put it together. Now I have it.
Why would a company build 2 totally different tables on the same build date ( one with net pockets vs.one with a ball return, one with diamond spots, vs. one with round spots ,one with no phone # on the brass plate vs. one with a phone # on the other one.
I know, I know ! I said I would let it go.But I gotta find out more about them
Rich K ( RuneSki )
Well whaddaya know, I was actually looking for a sign that it was swapped and did not notice this.
Can you find out who stole my lunch at work also?
Jeff,
I did contact Brunswick and asked if they would look into and ( research for $75.00 ) when and by whom this table was made, Mr. Newell (of Newell and co.) is a Brunswick billiard historian and he said he would not be able to give me any information and had no information on my table.
I can't say for certain, I'm only trying to find out when my tables were made ( pretty sure now it was the Correale family ) but I received an old newspaper article dated ( Wednesday Nov. 27 ,1963 ) from Ray that detailed that the Corealle family ( the father was a cabinet maker ) made their own custom billiard, and pool tables, custom poker tables and they constructed 8 bowling lanes at 349 West Side Ave in J.C . I am not able to post that,sorry,maybe Ray would be able to.
Rich K
I did contact Brunswick and asked if they would look into and ( research for $75.00 ) when and by whom this table was made, Mr. Newell (of Newell and co.) is a Brunswick billiard historian and he said he would not be able to give me any information and had no information on my table.
I can't say for certain, I'm only trying to find out when my tables were made ( pretty sure now it was the Correale family ) but I received an old newspaper article dated ( Wednesday Nov. 27 ,1963 ) from Ray that detailed that the Corealle family ( the father was a cabinet maker ) made their own custom billiard, and pool tables, custom poker tables and they constructed 8 bowling lanes at 349 West Side Ave in J.C . I am not able to post that,sorry,maybe Ray would be able to.
Rich K
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