Talisman Installation

kokopuffs

kokopuffs

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Up to now I've always installed my own single layer tips and I am ready to try a multilayered Talisman Pro tip. My question concerns shaping the sides of the Talisman:

Can an emory board be used for final shaping the sides of the multilayered tip after the excess has been cut away with an exacto knife? This would be achieved by "sanding" the vertical sides of the tip with a nail file in a back-and-forth motion parallel with the length of the cue.
 
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this is a good question...as I too...have always installed my
own tips. I'm getting my new layered tips soon. & also
would like to know if there is anything diffrent in the installation
process. also.. I did a search on this forum...& read that
you shoulnt use a tip pik on a layered tip. is this true?
 
kokopuffs said:
Up to now I've always installed my own single layer tips and I am ready to try a multilayered Talisman Pro tip. My question concerns shaping the sides of the Talisman:

Can an emory board be used for final shaping the sides of the multilayered tip after the excess has been cut away with an exacto knife? This would be achieved by "sanding" the vertical sides of the tip with a nail file in a back-and-forth motion parallel with the length of the cue.
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You would be best to use your tip pick on single layed tips only. You are driving steel little daggers into the tip and they tear little holes coming out. In a multi layer tip the layers are thin and that is what causes them to seperate and fail. Get you a simple sandpaper file, that is all you need.

On shaping the sides, going back and forth up and down will tear it up, go one direction, down and away only.

Good luck, you are about to reap your reward, a hugh increase in playing performance, especially in your draw and the power in your follow stroke. This is the tip, IMHO.:D
 
So you're saying that I can use the emory board as long as the stroke is unidirectional, toward the butt only.
 
I stock Talisman Pro tips and have installed many on customer cues. I use a lathe.

Having said that, I suggest you NOT stress the layers by sanding from the shaft toward the tip. You could try sanding around the circumfrance of the tip but use caution -- you don't want to scratch the ferrule. You could also carefully sand from the end of the tip toward the ferrule but you do not want a "pencil" shape.

By the way, the final height of the tip should be no more than half the diameter of the shaft/ferrule.

Also, do NOT use a TipPic® on any layered tip as this will lead to de-lamination.

Troy
 
Troy:

You seem to agree with FL and direction of sanding, toward the butt ONLY. And yes, little, if any, taper would be okay but standard, cylindrically shaped sides will do quite well, too.

As far as shaping the tip goes, using either a BRAD scuffer or the dome shaped depression in the ULTIMATE TIP TOOL would work just fine.
 
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Please do NOT accuse me of agreeing with FL. His post just went on the board first. I've probably installed more tips then FL.

I don't understand paying $20 for the Ultimate Tip Tool®. I have replaced many ferrules 'cuz they get scratched using that thing.

Troy
Troy:

You seem to agree with FL and direction of sanding, toward the butt ONLY. And yes, little, if any, taper would be okay but standard, cylindrically shaped sides will do quite well, too.

As far as shaping the tip goes, using either a BRAD scuffer or the dome shaped depression in the ULTIMATE TIP TOOL would work just fine.
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I referred to the tip shaper portion of the TIP TOOL, the depression as it were, the gives either a nickel or dime radius to the tip. I wasn' t referring to the two "legs" that burnish the tip and scratch the ferrule in one easy operation!

And like mose others, I purchased the TIP TOOL before I knew the dangers of burnishing with it.
 
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Troy said:
Please do NOT accuse me of agreeing with FL. His post just went on the board first. I've probably installed more tips then FL.

I don't understand paying $20 for the Ultimate Tip Tool®. I have replaced many ferrules 'cuz they get scratched using that thing.

Troy
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Yes, please, Troy is right about this, I just sell tips, I do not install tips. I have never put one on and don't intend ever to put one on. I find experts like Troy to do that for me. This function is so important and critical to my performance I must have it done on a lathe and done perfect. I can't do perfect at home, no way.

Troy is the expert on this on this board, not me, listen to him and I am thankful he came along to get me out of this, I am out of my area of expertise I freely admit. :p
 
Sorry for the poor wording in my previous post.

Troy, your information seems to parallel that of FL...

Okay?
 
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