Television Pool is Boring

I'm sitting here watching the 2005 WSOP on ESPN2. I must say they record these tournaments in a very entertaining way. Also, having a player taunting the others is great for TV. Every time I watch poker, there is someone you love to hate. If the pool community could be this smart, the ratings would go through the roof. Imagine a match similar to what Grady described when he and McCready played. Woofing, ranting and name-calling. Watching two robots shooting balls into pockets being announced by dry, un-colorful announcers in like watching grass grow. If you like watching the game being played, it's ok, but horrible for average joe entertainment.
 
Splinterhands said:
I'm sitting here watching the 2005 WSOP on ESPN2. I must say they record these tournaments in a very entertaining way. Also, having a player taunting the others is great for TV. Every time I watch poker, there is someone you love to hate. If the pool community could be this smart, the ratings would go through the roof. Imagine a match similar to what Grady described when he and McCready played. Woofing, ranting and name-calling. Watching two robots shooting balls into pockets being announced by dry, un-colorful announcers in like watching grass grow. If you like watching the game being played, it's ok, but horrible for average joe entertainment.

The scary part is life has a way of imitating art and as people began twirling their cue after COM., It would to be awful to have every "want-to-be player" in the pool rooms and bars thinking that is the way players act. The possible long term negative effects scare me. Class never goes out of style and pool has class. I don't really care if it never is much bigger then it is now. Contrary to popular belief pool does not need saving, it is alive and well with millions of players. It may not be a sport that many can make a living at as a player, most sports aren't, it is still a great sport I hate to see ruined by people with short term quick buck plans. This ball buster show is a good example. The people they portray on there, I say portray because I think the show is contrived, are the kind of people we spend our lives avoiding in the pool room.
 
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macguy said:
The scary part is life has a way of imitating art and as people began twirling their cue after COM., It would to be awful to have every "want-to-be player" it the pool rooms and bars thinking that is the way players act. The possible long term negative effects scare me. Class never goes out of style and pool has class. I don't really care if it never is much bigger then it is now. Contrary to popular belief pool does not need saving, it is alive and well with millions of players. It may not be a sport that many can make a living at as a player, most sports aren't, it is still a great sport I hate to see ruined by people with short term quick buck plans. This ball buster show is a good example. The people that portray on there, I say portray because I think the show is contrived, are the kind of people we spend our lives avoiding in the pool room.

Instead of making pool interesting for the average joe, how about adding replay value for people who find watching pool educational. Stop pretending the event is live and do some editing. I.e. add some comments from the players who played the shot, show better diagrams as to what position route options the players had, its not live, its on tape so play can be paused to explain the shot. I know editing cost money and thats why it not done. Ever notice how entertaining the player review tapes are from accu-stats. Espn should maybe buy some of these tapes and take some lessons.

A good example of this is the Archer vs. Reyes "capelle on 9bal" dvd. Theres a section where 25 shots are explained. I know this is not a televised match and I'm not suggesting copying this format exactly, just something similar to this. And for anyone that hasn't seen this match I'm talking about, do yourself a favor and pick it up. Great match and great information. Every shot is explained in a little book and 25 shots are diagrammed on the dvd.

On a side note.
I watched the ballbusters show and found it not usefull for anything other than some entertainment.
But I did like the gambling between shots. I think this may add some excitement in televised matches if it was done. Imagine Earl Strickland having a tough jump shot with a table lenght draw to get to the next ball and Rodney Morris bets him $1000 he can't get out from here. I would be entertained :)

I also like the rule that if you break and don't make a ball the other player gets ball in hand. And then you have the option to take break or pass to other player if you win lag. Not sure how this work work with pros but I seen some strategy in deciding this against a lesser skilled player.
Letting them break is pretty good odds in your favor.
Would also take away the "safe break" where players are hitting the balls so easy they leave clusters don't make a ball.
 
christopheradam said:
Instead of making pool interesting for the average joe, how about adding replay value for people who find watching pool educational. Stop pretending the event is live and do some editing. I.e. add some comments from the players who played the shot, show better diagrams as to what position route options the players had, its not live, its on tape so play can be paused to explain the shot. I know editing cost money and thats why it not done. Ever notice how entertaining the player review tapes are from accu-stats. Espn should maybe buy some of these tapes and take some lessons.

A good example of this is the Archer vs. Reyes "capelle on 9bal" dvd. Theres a section where 25 shots are explained. I know this is not a televised match and I'm not suggesting copying this format exactly, just something similar to this. And for anyone that hasn't seen this match I'm talking about, do yourself a favor and pick it up. Great match and great information. Every shot is explained in a little book and 25 shots are diagrammed on the dvd.

On a side note.
I watched the ballbusters show and found it not usefull for anything other than some entertainment.
But I did like the gambling between shots. I think this may add some excitement in televised matches if it was done. Imagine Earl Strickland having a tough jump shot with a table lenght draw to get to the next ball and Rodney Morris bets him $1000 he can't get out from here. I would be entertained :)

I also like the rule that if you break and don't make a ball the other player gets ball in hand. And then you have the option to take break or pass to other player if you win lag. Not sure how this work work with pros but I seen some strategy in deciding this against a lesser skilled player.
Letting them break is pretty good odds in your favor.
Would also take away the "safe break" where players are hitting the balls so easy they leave clusters don't make a ball.

Those are good points.
 
I personally don't find pool boring. Damn, I don't know how many tapes I have of matches... everything. 1p, 14.1 (my fav is Mike S. running 150 and out on Mike Zugland), 9-Ball, 10-Ball, 8-Ball. Every player I can find on tape I have, although Buddy H. and Keith Mc. are my all time favorites!

If there isn't something on ESPN, Fox, Comcast, or one of the others, then you can count on I'll be watching pool on the boob tube every week three or four times with my stack of VHS tapes. I can watch Sigel work that textbook 150 run over and over and over.

Hell, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm just worse addicted than I think I am. But I do love to watch pool on TV, no matter who it is.

Later,
Bob
 
Cane said:
I personally don't find pool boring. Damn, I don't know how many tapes I have of matches... everything. 1p, 14.1 (my fav is Mike S. running 150 and out on Mike Zugland), 9-Ball, 10-Ball, 8-Ball. Every player I can find on tape I have, although Buddy H. and Keith Mc. are my all time favorites!

If there isn't something on ESPN, Fox, Comcast, or one of the others, then you can count on I'll be watching pool on the boob tube every week three or four times with my stack of VHS tapes. I can watch Sigel work that textbook 150 run over and over and over.

Hell, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm just worse addicted than I think I am. But I do love to watch pool on TV, no matter who it is.

Later,
Bob

I understand where you come from. It doesn't matter how it is presented or who is presenting it, pool is fun to watch for the passionate ones. On the other hand, my wife would sit down and watch hours of poker on tv, but she has very little interest in watching televised pool. Too boring for the average Jane. There has to be a good guy/bad guy or it's just not interesting.
 
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Splinterhands, to tell ya the truth, I don't even like watching pool live. I find it boring. During the US Open I spend half of the time at the VA Beach Blues fest on the water. I guess, even though according to you I can't, I would rather play. I can play 10 or 15 hours and not notice the time go by. If it wasn't for my wife, I would play all day 3 days a week.
Best Regards, Donny
 
Splinterhands said:
I understand where you come from. It doesn't matter how it is presented or who is presenting it, pool is fun to watch for the passionate ones. On the other hand, my wife would sit down and watch hours of poker on tv, but she has very little interest in watching televised pool. Too boring for the average Jane. There has to be a good guy/bad guy or it's just not interesting.

Pool is what it is, no one says everybody has to love it or watch it. There is a lot of popular sports on ESPN that only appeals to certain people and that is as it should be. There is a catch 22 here. If in the effort to increase the popularity of the game the game itself is lost, what has been accomplished?
 
Hey Don part of the time you can find you at one of the better resturants during the Open too!

Any suggestions this year?
 
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