Blud and Chris , Thank you very much for your help and time . I look forward to doing business with both of you in the future. I think it is great that you come here and answer all the questions you do. I would also like to add a thanks to all the people that answer questions on the forums you dont have to be a great cuemakers to have a input. This is a great place to find answers on a lot of things. I hope someday to be able to help some as all of you have. Hannphie