The rules of Golf

[NathanDetroit]

I have found some rules for this game on-line, but none seem complete. There is a push-out rule that makes a difference between whether you're hooked by your own ball or your opponent's.

Any other obscure rules? Or is it all house rules. I would really like to see comments about which sites have posted the most complete rules.

 

[Michael Andros]

I have found some rules for this game on-line, but none seem complete. There is a push-out rule that makes a difference between whether you're hooked by your own ball or your opponent's.

Any other obscure rules? Or is it all house rules. I would really like to see comments about which sites have posted the most complete rules.

In our room, from @ 71 until 02 or so, there was a golf game going open to close 7 days a week, and MANY times for a LOT of cheddar. And I gotta say, I've been all over this country and everywhere I ever went, any time I saw a golf game, it was played differently than at home. And sometimes, it was barely even recognizable. All games ( with the exception maybe of 14.1 ) were kinda the same way but nothing to the extent golf was. So good luck getting a firm set of rules for it. :grin:

 

[terryhanna]

I have found some rules for this game on-line, but none seem complete. There is a push-out rule that makes a difference between whether you're hooked by your own ball or your opponent's.

Any other obscure rules? Or is it all house rules. I would really like to see comments about which sites have posted the most complete rules.

Almost everywhere that game is played they have house rules that vary from place to place.

I grew up in a pool room where we had big golf games every day.

We played if you are completely snookered and can't see any part of your ball you can roll out without your ball coming off the table.

But i have seen it played very different at other rooms.

 

[jrctherake]

I have found some rules for this game on-line, but none seem complete. There is a push-out rule that makes a difference between whether you're hooked by your own ball or your opponent's.

Any other obscure rules? Or is it all house rules. I would really like to see comments about which sites have posted the most complete rules.

There are many different versions of golf. Here is the one I like the best:

Instead of having one spot on table, use three. Your normal spot at foot end and two more with one of them being at each end (head/foot rails) about a 1/4" off the rail when balls are spotted on them.

Here is why I use those:
Let's say I kick at my ball but miss it and leave you very bad. Well, it doesn't matter if I meant to miss my ball or if I was legitimately trying to hit it, now you have the following options:

Put my ball or your ball on "any" of the three spots on table and shoot from where the cue ball is laying.

Or

Leave your and my ball where they are and you get BIH behind head string.

Play that way, well, let's just say people tend to hit their balls WAY more often.

Now, you didn't make it clear if you are trying to stop people from "rolling out" just because you put them in jail or if it's because you hooked yourself.

Either way, it doesn't matter. The player that misses his ball should get punished and the punishment should be determined by his opponent.

BTW, you can use those rules playing a ring game or partners as well.

If ring game, the person you follow misses their ball, you get to decide. If you foul, the person that follows you gets to decide.

Partners, well you and your partner decide together if the other team fouls.

Works very well but, lol....be warned, the better kick and banker has a HUGE advantage with those rules BUT:

LOL

all the DISHONEST A55hats lose the opportunities to "roll out" while trying to make it "look" like they tried to hit their ball....

The only people that dont like those rules for head up play are one of the following:

Dishonest

or

Dishonest

 

[Lucasi53]

Rules of Golf

Best I can tell you is the #1 thing to learn is "House Rules". Having played and watched the game over many years, no two rooms play the same set of rules. The "locals" will teach you as you go but (always) at a price (foul = $$). Many will be reluctant to let you join the game (all it takes is 1 bad player to ruin it for everyone else). I really enjoy the game (like a revolving 1p game with more players and options). Good Luck!

 

[noMoreSchon]

I have played several ways, and in the room I frequent now a days, they have a hickey

ball placed on a washer in the middle of the table. Cue ball or object ball hits it...well it

isn't fun. Also takes away a lot of 2 rail banks. There is no worst feeling than making your

hole only to have the cue knock that hickey ball off the washer...it is also pretty great to use

it defensively. I didn't enjoy it when introduced, but now I do.

 

[jrctherake]

I have played several ways, and in the room I frequent now a days, they have a hickey

ball placed on a washer in the middle of the table. Cue ball or object ball hits it...well it

isn't fun. Also takes away a lot of 2 rail banks. There is no worst feeling than making your

hole only to have the cue knock that hickey ball off the washer...it is also pretty great to use

it defensively. I didn't enjoy it when introduced, but now I do.

I play with a guy that wanted to do that. Well, eventhough it was his idea, he really doesn't understand how to take the hickyball out of the equation.

As you said, it's in the way of most all two rail shot "to the hole". Well, if you do as you should and only lag the shot, shoot it "a little short or long of pocket", well, the object ball will "never" touch the hickyball..... not ever.

I'm dumbfounded everytime I see someone that's suppose to be a golf player hit the hickyball.

I dont get it, it really doesn't change the game much. It does however stop most multiple hole runs. On the other hand, golf is usually won by shooting the "two -way" shot but, the offensive end of the shot is a lag....again, to shoot long or short of the pocket and you miss the hickyball by a mile.

 

[jrhendy]

I play with a guy that wanted to do that. Well, eventhough it was his idea, he really doesn't understand how to take the hickyball out of the equation.

As you said, it's in the way of most all two rail shot "to the hole". Well, if you do as you should and only lag the shot, shoot it "a little short or long of pocket", well, the object ball will "never" touch the hickyball..... not ever.

I'm dumbfounded everytime I see someone that's suppose to be a golf player hit the hickyball.

I dont get it, it really doesn't change the game much. It does however stop most multiple hole runs. On the other hand, golf is usually won by shooting the "two -way" shot but, the offensive end of the shot is a lag....again, to shoot long or short of the pocket and you miss the hickyball by a mile.

I have never played with a hickey ball but it does sound interesting. I have played golf for 60+ years at rooms all over the country and as others have mentioned on here, the rules are different and sometimes ridiculous. Gypsy golf they used to play in Los Angeles was the most confusing I have ever witnessed.

I go down to CA Billiards in Fremont to play on the 6 x 12 when I can and they have decent rules and will gamble some. It is the only decent golf game in Northern CA that I know of. They put a nice 6 x 12 in at Gold Rush Billiards in Yuba City, CA to play golf on and I was going to check it out until I heard the most they play for was $2/.25. Too far to drive for that, but a good house game. Maybe they will get better and bet more and this old man will go up and check it out.:sorry::grin:

The golf game on the 6 x 12 at Hard Times, Bellflower used to be a good one for years, but they tightened up the table so much it is impossible to beat a local player who is familiar with the table. Same thing with the tight 5 x 10 in Fresno. If your object ball is more than an inch away from a corner pocket, it is almost impossible to make and you just nudge it closer. I like tight snooker tables, but IMO they have carried it to far when you can’t run a few holes.

Two rules I won’t play without - your ball must come off the table on a scratch or missed ball and you can’t shoot an opponents ball out of his hole with the cue ball. Surprisingly, there are rooms that let you do that. Most of the goofy rules I have run into over the years were put in place by a local to take advantage of their own skill level.

 

[terryhanna]

Two rules I won’t play without - your ball must come off the table on a scratch or missed ball and you can’t shoot an opponents ball out of his hole with the cue ball. Surprisingly, there are rooms that let you do that. Most of the goofy rules I have run into over the years were put in place by a local to take advantage of their own skill level.

We played a bad hit cost you half the game so if you were playing 20-2 bad hit would cost 10.

 

[jrctherake]

I have never played with a hickey ball but it does sound interesting. I have played golf for 60+ years at rooms all over the country and as others have mentioned on here, the rules are different and sometimes ridiculous. Gypsy golf they used to play in Los Angeles was the most confusing I have ever witnessed.

I go down to CA Billiards in Fremont to play on the 6 x 12 when I can and they have decent rules and will gamble some. It is the only decent golf game in Northern CA that I know of. They put a nice 6 x 12 in at Gold Rush Billiards in Yuba City, CA to play golf on and I was going to check it out until I heard the most they play for was $2/.25. Too far to drive for that, but a good house game. Maybe they will get better and bet more and this old man will go up and check it out.:sorry::grin:

The golf game on the 6 x 12 at Hard Times, Bellflower used to be a good one for years, but they tightened up the table so much it is impossible to beat a local player who is familiar with the table. Same thing with the tight 5 x 10 in Fresno. If your object ball is more than an inch away from a corner pocket, it is almost impossible to make and you just nudge it closer. I like tight snooker tables, but IMO they have carried it to far when you can’t run a few holes.

Two rules I won’t play without - your ball must come off the table on a scratch or missed ball and you can’t shoot an opponents ball out of his hole with the cue ball. Surprisingly, there are rooms that let you do that. Most of the goofy rules I have run into over the years were put in place by a local to take advantage of their own skill level.

I agree with your thought about pockets being to tight not being good for the game, especially when gambling.

And yes, it sucks to drive several miles to play golf for $2 and .25 a hicky.

Here in Florence, Alabama there's probably not but two people in the entire city that can run more than 1st and 2nd hole on regular basis.

The average game of golf here is $5 / .25 hicky, with the occasional $20 to $100 / $1 to $10 hicky games.

And yes, ALL of the goofy rules are always put in place by someone to make up for someone's lack of skill.

The hickyball is not that tough if a person knows the track lines. As a matter of fact, the hickyball is an advantage to the skilled player if he's playing a lesser player.

Roll out 9 ball is a good game but, rolling out in golf ( missing your ball on purpose) will ruin any golf game very quickly unless there are penalties in place.

I know way to many people that will not even try to hit their ball if your lagged for your hole and they are hooked or kicking at all. They will "try" to make it look good (like they tried to hit it) but miss it so they dont sell out.

That's why I dont play golf much, most here (Florence Alabama) are sceerrrd little rabbits when you bring up three spot penalties.

 

[jrctherake]

We played a bad hit cost you half the game so if you were playing 20-2 bad hit would cost 10.

The bad hit costing extra is another way to keep it honest but, that rule, by itself doesn't stop the rollouts from happening.

I love the idea3of three spot with costing extra on bad hits to boot....

The thing is:

If everyone played the way we speak of, there wouldn't be any fish on the table. Lol.... everyone at table would be a killer.

As tough a game as it is, it's the most fun way to play the game. Either that, or sit and watch idiots drive around with the top down.

 

[jrhendy]

I agree with your thought about pockets being to tight not being good for the game, especially when gambling.

And yes, it sucks to drive several miles to play golf for $2 and .25 a hicky.

Here in Florence, Alabama there's probably not but two people in the entire city that can run more than 1st and 2nd hole on regular basis.

The average game of golf here is $5 / .25 hicky, with the occasional $20 to $100 / $1 to $10 hicky games.

And yes, ALL of the goofy rules are always put in place by someone to make up for someone's lack of skill.

The hickyball is not that tough if a person knows the track lines. As a matter of fact, the hickyball is an advantage to the skilled player if he's playing a lesser player.

Roll out 9 ball is a good game but, rolling out in golf ( missing your ball on purpose) will ruin any golf game very quickly unless there are penalties in place.

I know way to many people that will not even try to hit their ball if your lagged for your hole and they are hooked or kicking at all. They will "try" to make it look good (like they tried to hit it) but miss it so they dont sell out.

That's why I dont play golf much, most here (Florence Alabama) are sceerrrd little rabbits when you bring up three spot penalties.

The old rules at Hard Times, Bellflower started when the 6 x 12 was at Verne Peterson’s Billiard Palace in the 60’s. If you kicked at your ball and missed, it was a hickey and your ball came off the table, UNLESS the following player did not like where the cue ball ended up. Then he could make you shoot again until you hit your ball, and then your ball came off. You got an additional hickey every time you missed. A bad hit on another players ball was price of the game, paid immediately.

These rules pretty much eliminated any whoopsies.