This cue was sold to me several years back as a Thomas Wayne cue. It is not signed or marked in any way I can find. Any input or ideas on who made the cue would be appreciated. Pin is 5/16X14
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Thomas Wayne ????
- Thread starter bubbaandthem
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The "Ivory Micarta" butt cap dates that cue to the early 80's; that material was bone white when first cut, but would yellow severely after a few years. I pretty much quit using it entirely by around '85 (IIRC).
In the early 80's I had a couple of different guys (pool players) who would hang out in my shop and had an interest in cuemaking. One eventually bought a metal lathe and put it in his mobile home, but never really BUILT any cues, Instead he would take existing cues - house cues, low-end McDermotts & Meuccis, and even a nice Schon once - and cut them up to add experimental joints, lengthen the handles, add more weight bolts in the middle, etc. He did not make the cue you are asking about, because he never actually "made" a cue at all - although I've heard he lives in CA now and tells anyone who will listen that he taught me how to build cues - lol.
The other guy was more interested in actually building cues from scratch, and built up a fairly well equipped shop - albeit with kind of beat up old tools he found at garage sales and auctions. I taught him a good bit of the cuemaking process and often gave him short rounds of wood and other offcuts, as well as selling him joint bolts, stainless collar blanks, and 4-point blanks. The front in your cue looks like it came from one of my early set ups; the bumper is nothing like any I used - which in those days would have been a cut-down stock bumper from some billiard-supply house with 6-32 cap-screw going into a tapped hole in a 3/8" x 16 tpi weight bolt.
That guy never really made very many cues, although he did "re-invent" the Viking 'Super Joint' and had a prototype made (in secret) at a local machine shop. When he proudly showed me his new, revolutionary joint system (that was going to make him rich) I had the unpleasant task of telling him it had already been on the market for many years. He left it here and I still have it in my collection somewhere. Some time after that his health went south (heart) and so did he, ending up in Arizona (IIRC) living with his sister. A quarter of a century is a long time, and we did not stay in touch. If he is still alive I would be pleasantly surprised.
I've always put some form of maker's mark on every cue I built, and except for a very small number of cues (less than 6) that mark has been my signature. Your photos do not offer a lot of detail, but I would have to say I most likely did not build the cue. I suspect, however, that many, if not most of the components came out of my shop. At the time I had constantly urged my friend to sign or otherwise mark his work (an important lesson that had been impressed upon me by Richard Black), but as far as I know he never did - though you might want to peek under the bumper just in case...
TW
In the early 80's I had a couple of different guys (pool players) who would hang out in my shop and had an interest in cuemaking. One eventually bought a metal lathe and put it in his mobile home, but never really BUILT any cues, Instead he would take existing cues - house cues, low-end McDermotts & Meuccis, and even a nice Schon once - and cut them up to add experimental joints, lengthen the handles, add more weight bolts in the middle, etc. He did not make the cue you are asking about, because he never actually "made" a cue at all - although I've heard he lives in CA now and tells anyone who will listen that he taught me how to build cues - lol.
The other guy was more interested in actually building cues from scratch, and built up a fairly well equipped shop - albeit with kind of beat up old tools he found at garage sales and auctions. I taught him a good bit of the cuemaking process and often gave him short rounds of wood and other offcuts, as well as selling him joint bolts, stainless collar blanks, and 4-point blanks. The front in your cue looks like it came from one of my early set ups; the bumper is nothing like any I used - which in those days would have been a cut-down stock bumper from some billiard-supply house with 6-32 cap-screw going into a tapped hole in a 3/8" x 16 tpi weight bolt.
That guy never really made very many cues, although he did "re-invent" the Viking 'Super Joint' and had a prototype made (in secret) at a local machine shop. When he proudly showed me his new, revolutionary joint system (that was going to make him rich) I had the unpleasant task of telling him it had already been on the market for many years. He left it here and I still have it in my collection somewhere. Some time after that his health went south (heart) and so did he, ending up in Arizona (IIRC) living with his sister. A quarter of a century is a long time, and we did not stay in touch. If he is still alive I would be pleasantly surprised.
I've always put some form of maker's mark on every cue I built, and except for a very small number of cues (less than 6) that mark has been my signature. Your photos do not offer a lot of detail, but I would have to say I most likely did not build the cue. I suspect, however, that many, if not most of the components came out of my shop. At the time I had constantly urged my friend to sign or otherwise mark his work (an important lesson that had been impressed upon me by Richard Black), but as far as I know he never did - though you might want to peek under the bumper just in case...
TW
