Tip Evolution

kokopuffs

kokopuffs

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I possess a box of Triangle tips and a box of Le Pro tips. Both were purchased in 2000. From the posts I've read at AZ, the quality of Le Pro's have degenerated but Triangles remain the same. Can anyone comment with difinity on the Triangles? Are they the same as before?
 
The triangles will play as well as a Morri, they just don't last as long. the quality is fine. Harder is better, lepros are medium soft.

Fone Man
 
THAT I know. But has the quality of Triangles deteriorated ove time as has the Le Pros?
 
I don't know about how the triangles were before but someone posted awhile back about them not being consistantly hard. I haven't had any experience with that but I would think Triangles one piece of leather design would possibly cause some slight minor variation of hardness from tip to tip.

Terry
 
I know that Talisman Pro tips run slightly harder than their one-piece tip replacements. So what do I substitute for the Trinagle: a TPMedium or a TPHard?
 
According to Muellers the Triangle is hard=81.4, the Talisman Pro hard is 77, Tiger Laminated Hard=81, Tsunami hard=82.4 and Moori hard (Quick) =82.7. Looks like Tiger Hard is closest to Triangle.

Terry
 
kokopuffs said:
THAT I know. But has the quality of Triangles deteriorated ove time as has the Le Pros?
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Of each box of Triangles and LePros I have, I find about half of each to be useless for my cues, but they would suffice on bar cues. The good ones of either are really good.

That doesn't really answer your question.

Fred
 
Triangle tips are tricky. I repair cues on the side and in a box of 50 I'd say about 1/2 of the triangle tips can turn out to be too soft and will mushroom. For some reason, some triangle tips turn out to be like a piece of cork and are too soft. I've found that the consistency of a LePro to be more reliable. If you choose to switch to a talisman tip don't go with the what the book says, a talisman medium is actually much closer to the hardness of a triangle tip.
 
The one thing I don't fully agree with is that LePro tips are med soft. The only ones I've tried are LePro hard and they are pretty good. To me, and quite a few other people, triangles have a mushier feel to them while a LePro has a stiffer hit. I've also had problems jumping balls with triangles than I do with a LePro. A couple of people had told me that a Durometer isn't the best way to tell how hard a tip "plays" either. Just my 2 cents.
 
PoolFool said:
Triangle tips are tricky. I repair cues on the side and in a box of 50 I'd say about 1/2 of the triangle tips can turn out to be too soft and will mushroom. For some reason, some triangle tips turn out to be like a piece of cork and are too soft. I've found that the consistency of a LePro to be more reliable. If you choose to switch to a talisman tip don't go with the what the book says, a talisman medium is actually much closer to the hardness of a triangle tip.
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Elk Master, Triumph, LePro and Triangle are all made by Tweeten fibre co. LePro is supposed to be a med. tip while Triangle is their hardest tip. About 20 yrs. ago the LePro's went to pot. In the last 3 or 4 yrs. the Triangles are falling into the same catagory. On average, I get about 5 good med. tips out of a box of 50. I also get about 5 hard which is O.K. also. I also get about 20 almost rotten tips and 20 rotten tips out of a box. Over the years I have thrown away 1000's of LePro tips. Triangles were always very consistant from tip to tip but in the last 3 years or so I've thrown away more Triangles than I have for the previous thirty years put together.

I feel that a LePro is the worst tip on the market.

Dick
 
kokopuffs said:
I know that Talisman Pro tips run slightly harder than their one-piece tip replacements. So what do I substitute for the Trinagle: a TPMedium or a TPHard?
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Poolfool is right on the money. I just switched (temporary experiment) from Talisman Pro Hard to Triangle tips. The Triangles are definitely softer so I'd go with the Talisman Medium and press it in the vise a bit so it wont flatten out on you.
 
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kokopuffs said:
I possess a box of Triangle tips and a box of Le Pro tips. Both were purchased in 2000. From the posts I've read at AZ, the quality of Le Pro's have degenerated but Triangles remain the same. Can anyone comment with difinity on the Triangles? Are they the same as before?
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It is a real problem. I test every tip I put on with a durometer before I install in.
 
All I can say by these responses is that now I've heard everything. Triangles are softer that Le Pros, vice versa and so on. And I really appreciate the comments, too.
 
kokopuffs said:
All I can say by these responses is that now I've heard everything. Triangles are softer that Le Pros, vice versa and so on. And I really appreciate the comments, too.
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The thing you can take from the inconsistency of answers you received is this. Solid tips range from med-soft to hard in the very same box, so depending on which tips a person selects for installation, their experiences and opinions will be quite varied. (Especially if someone always presses their tips prior to installation).

To attempt to compare Triangle or Lepro to other tips (or each other) with any degree of certainty is impossible. Layered tips also vary in hardness, but not to the same degree as solid tips. So while my above answer may hold weight for one tip combination, the next tip in the box may make me look like a nut.
 
There is something you can do to your triangle tips to save them. I have found that if you take ur tips and dip them in a polyurethane and let them dry, you can save most of them. The soft leather absorbs the urethane pretty well. Don't soak them too long or they will be rock solid, just soak them for a minute or two so they absorb just enough urethane. I know I am going to get a little heat about this, but I have done this with my triangle tips and they have remained consistently hard. I have also heard soaking them in milk overnight and also squeezing them in a vice help, but the vice thing sounds like a lot of work to me and I've tried the milk thing and it's never worked for me.
 
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