Tip preference...
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Zimmer, I have my own brand of tips. [BLUD'S TIPS]and they are layered. Yes, I have a company build them to "MY" spec's.........This has taken me years to come with a perfect tip......We got it "NOW".
The differance between mine and some of the more popular layered tips is this,
My tips are chrome tanned, the other two are vegtiable tanned. It takes a thicker glue with the others, so you wind up chalking a lot of glue, along with the leather. My tips require about 75% less glue and chalk easier and better than the others.
The other tips have a thicker glue and it tends to "shift" the layers around a bit. They also turn "loose" often. Mine "DO NOT", with proper care..........
IF ANY TIP I SELL "FAILS". Have it cut off at the base of the tip, "SEND IT BACK TO ME AND IF IT'S MY FAULT, IT A DONE DEAL". Yes, you will get a new tip free........including shipping.
Mine go for $30.00 installed, the others go for more. Mine are sold at $10.00 each.They are very good tips, they hold the chalk as they should, and the layers do not seperate as the others do, and mine have more exposed leather than the others do, for gripping the ball.
It anit broke so i aint gonna fix it..........
I sell med/and med/hard.
Want one or more tips, call me @ 830-232-5991
blud
ps, I back what I sell...
The differance between mine and some of the more popular layered tips is this,
My tips are chrome tanned, the other two are vegtiable tanned. It takes a thicker glue with the others, so you wind up chalking a lot of glue, along with the leather. My tips require about 75% less glue and chalk easier and better than the others.
The other tips have a thicker glue and it tends to "shift" the layers around a bit. They also turn "loose" often. Mine "DO NOT", with proper care..........
IF ANY TIP I SELL "FAILS". Have it cut off at the base of the tip, "SEND IT BACK TO ME AND IF IT'S MY FAULT, IT A DONE DEAL". Yes, you will get a new tip free........including shipping.
Mine go for $30.00 installed, the others go for more. Mine are sold at $10.00 each.They are very good tips, they hold the chalk as they should, and the layers do not seperate as the others do, and mine have more exposed leather than the others do, for gripping the ball.
It anit broke so i aint gonna fix it..........
I sell med/and med/hard.
Want one or more tips, call me @ 830-232-5991
blud
ps, I back what I sell...
I've got the layereds on about 5 different shafts, and I don't think they're worth it-meaning, I don't play any better with one, and any performance difference is unnoticable, to me. Don't wanna Grandma you, (but maybe you, already do) realize that if you've just paid a big price for something, there is a built in "motivation" for percieved success, and/or improvement-be it real, perceived, or illusion. It's also natural to be reluctant to admit you just wasted your money - especially, if, by continuing the denial, maybe you can influence someone else to throw their money away, also, and, somehow, that will make it not so bad (Or, maybe, possibly, they'll figure out why it is better and tell you, and, so then, you'll know, too...)
I doubt that's the case, but anyway - My advice: Just determine if you want soft, medium, or hard and go with elk, lepro, or triangle, respectively. You can get nearly a lifetime supply of these for what a single layered costs, installed. Obviously, I'm not an endorsee, but, I'm not out to crimp any particular product, either - just giving my view from my experience.
I doubt that's the case, but anyway - My advice: Just determine if you want soft, medium, or hard and go with elk, lepro, or triangle, respectively. You can get nearly a lifetime supply of these for what a single layered costs, installed. Obviously, I'm not an endorsee, but, I'm not out to crimp any particular product, either - just giving my view from my experience.
My layered tips will last a year or better if they are taken care of. This alone, makes them worth the extra cash.
Tips are cheap. Yes, even the ones I sell for $30.00.....
Consider this,
They are the cheapest part of your cue. Why be cheap and settle for second best and have to change the tip every two month's or so, and re-season the now new tip? DUH!
Now you have spent from 10 bucks each, up to maybe 40 to 60 bucks per year on cheap tips that will not last.
Spend only 30 bucks and you have a great quality tip, and have another 30 bucks or so for cold beer. Keep in mind that your playing will improve with the same tip over a longer period of time.
They will hold chalk and spin the ball very easily. Triangles, Le Pro's are sold buy the thousands. Mine are not. Do not want to sell them buy the thousands, cause you loose quality for mass-producing and the dollar.. Not going there....
Playing with a tip that will out last all others [the standards] will help you play better and better, cause you are playing with the same tip for month's and it hits the same.
It's not like re-tipping every couple of month's and having to re-adjust to the new tip, over and over.
Playing with a great tip will, indeed help your shot making.
Most folks use a tip taper of some sort. This destroyes the good tip. If you need it shaped, brush shape it with a small piece of 220 grannet sand paper held in the palm of your hand. Then twist and turn the tip.
Never use things that will cut the tip down and ruin it's shape.
When I shape a tip for a customer, I "NEVER" shape it the way the customer wants it. In shapping the tip, you need to shape it to the "texture" of the tip,[hardness or a soft tip]. The softer the tip, I trim the sides and tuck the "rim" of the tip in a little bit, and "crown" the top a little more round than it should be.
By doing this with soft, med, med/hard and hard tips, the player will play "INTO" the tip and after a spell, the tip will the be the prefect shape.
Another words, the tip will become a round shape, and it will mushroom and be straight up and down the sides, and have the proper crown, be dead perfect.
Some folks will shape a new tip the way it should be when you have been playing for several hours. GUESS WHAT, the tip needs to be re-shaped, cause the guy didn't allow for hitting balls and it being re-shaped by hitting balls.
Allow for the mushrooming and roundness on top and sides from the get go.
Most cue re-repair guys use a tool that is ground perfect for shaping tips. This is good from the looks and selling point of view. But for proper play shaping it "DONT WORK"..
I use my utility knife and my hands and 32 years of judment to shape my customers tips.
It aint broke, aint gonna fix it, either.
BLUD
Tips are cheap. Yes, even the ones I sell for $30.00.....
Consider this,
They are the cheapest part of your cue. Why be cheap and settle for second best and have to change the tip every two month's or so, and re-season the now new tip? DUH!
Now you have spent from 10 bucks each, up to maybe 40 to 60 bucks per year on cheap tips that will not last.
Spend only 30 bucks and you have a great quality tip, and have another 30 bucks or so for cold beer. Keep in mind that your playing will improve with the same tip over a longer period of time.
They will hold chalk and spin the ball very easily. Triangles, Le Pro's are sold buy the thousands. Mine are not. Do not want to sell them buy the thousands, cause you loose quality for mass-producing and the dollar.. Not going there....
Playing with a tip that will out last all others [the standards] will help you play better and better, cause you are playing with the same tip for month's and it hits the same.
It's not like re-tipping every couple of month's and having to re-adjust to the new tip, over and over.
Playing with a great tip will, indeed help your shot making.
Most folks use a tip taper of some sort. This destroyes the good tip. If you need it shaped, brush shape it with a small piece of 220 grannet sand paper held in the palm of your hand. Then twist and turn the tip.
Never use things that will cut the tip down and ruin it's shape.
When I shape a tip for a customer, I "NEVER" shape it the way the customer wants it. In shapping the tip, you need to shape it to the "texture" of the tip,[hardness or a soft tip]. The softer the tip, I trim the sides and tuck the "rim" of the tip in a little bit, and "crown" the top a little more round than it should be.
By doing this with soft, med, med/hard and hard tips, the player will play "INTO" the tip and after a spell, the tip will the be the prefect shape.
Another words, the tip will become a round shape, and it will mushroom and be straight up and down the sides, and have the proper crown, be dead perfect.
Some folks will shape a new tip the way it should be when you have been playing for several hours. GUESS WHAT, the tip needs to be re-shaped, cause the guy didn't allow for hitting balls and it being re-shaped by hitting balls.
Allow for the mushrooming and roundness on top and sides from the get go.
Most cue re-repair guys use a tool that is ground perfect for shaping tips. This is good from the looks and selling point of view. But for proper play shaping it "DONT WORK"..
I use my utility knife and my hands and 32 years of judment to shape my customers tips.
It aint broke, aint gonna fix it, either.
BLUD
Sounds good Blud, makes sense to me. I called you around lunch time, but Janice said you weren't in. (must have been out in the shop playin') I'm interested in a few of these tips and giving them a try. I would like some info on the lathe you're building now, price of cue making sessions with and w/out the purchase of your equipment. If you can send me some info via email or PM, I would appreciate it Blud.
Thanks and welcome back,
Zim
Thanks and welcome back,
Zim
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locki
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brunswick blue diamond tips are what i use...its hard...but now im thinking of getting a softer tip...
I've tried the Triangle/Le pro/Talisman pro med/Talisman water Buf Med as well.
The Triangle is a good cheap tip and will work quite well.
The Le Pro is way too inconsistant... my first one flattened after the first night then I would reshaped it and it flatten again. Tried another Le Pro and then it held it's shape but wouldn't hold the chalk very well.
The Talisman Pro med is a slightly softer hit than the Water buf. Holds its shape well and holds chauk good.
But I have to vote for the Talisman water Buff.med. Hold's the chauk the best and keeps it shape... very nice english from this tip. And low matenenice opphs (sp?)
Talisman seems to be very good choice!
The Triangle is a good cheap tip and will work quite well.
The Le Pro is way too inconsistant... my first one flattened after the first night then I would reshaped it and it flatten again. Tried another Le Pro and then it held it's shape but wouldn't hold the chalk very well.
The Talisman Pro med is a slightly softer hit than the Water buf. Holds its shape well and holds chauk good.
But I have to vote for the Talisman water Buff.med. Hold's the chauk the best and keeps it shape... very nice english from this tip. And low matenenice opphs (sp?)
Talisman seems to be very good choice!
Purdman
Banned
Hey Blud, your tips work fine on my cues. I have put them on most of my cues. I like them better than the Talisman(had most of their buffalo tips split). I have Moori tips I got from Chris H. for $10.00 each because some of my customers ask for them. I don't push the tips we traded because I want to keep them for myself. I like the soft ones I got from you the most. I just prefer the hit. Does anybody tell the folks that like the layered tips not to use the tip pik on them. They destroy them. I got a guy who purchased a layered tip from me and used a tip pik on it and brought it back three months later after he Pix It apart. Wanted me to replace it under warrenty. I did. Now he is playing with a Le Pro. Now I tell em all not to use a pik on layered tips. Do you agree?
Best Regards, Don
PS: Say hello to Janice for me.
Best Regards, Don
PS: Say hello to Janice for me.
I have put more tips on than anyone in the world, over the last 32 years, it's not how many are in a "bad batch" it's who and how they are installed, who knows what they are doing and who does not.
I never have in 32 years got a bad batch of tips, [Le pro's, elk-masters, or whatever]. Some are not good, but only about 2% that I will not use.
Why change tips when it's not nessesary if you have a good tip?
If you don't know how to take care of it or need help, just ask. With proper installation and "proper" care, tips will last a long time.
It's cheaper to buy a "good tip" and spend $30.00 and play with the same touch and feel for about a year or so, rather than changing ever so offten and "taking " afew days to re-adjust to your new tip that will have to be replaced in another 2 or 3 month's, and spending more than 30 bucks over a years or so.... DUH!....
Some cue guys don't care to help others with any kind of problems, cause it might cost them cash. I am differant than that, I help. And, it's got it's rewards.
This may set a few of you guys off with my statements. SO BE IT. Most are telling a story about tips. THAT"S ALL.
None of you have come to the board and explained about tips as I have.
I have, "no bull shit", put on more tips than any single person in the world. [ I think Ted Harris may be running a close second, and might just catch up in 3 or 4 years or so, and Joe's is not far behind]........
FOLKS, I do know what I am talking about. If you think not, put up the cash, and find out.
I am not trying to piss anyone off, I am just sick and tired of those who think they know what they are talking about, when they don't have a clue...To many folks listen to them on this and other boards. It appears to me that they mis-lead others just to hear themsevels talk.
So go ahead and stat some crap guys. But in doing so, remember, I will back up what I say, with my experance and plenty of cash...Were building a new home and could use the extra cash.
blud
PS, too, cue guys answer this, [ no bull shit, just answer the questions if you can],
What is the processs and what types of leather is used, and how are they constructed to make your faviorte tips, no mattter what brand????????????? What and how are any of them made. [There make up, construction].
BTW, Don Purdy is a top cue-repair guyin the DC area. Try him, you will like his work. So is Ted Harris, Joe Blackman, and baby face, Mike Gulossie.....and a many more.
I never have in 32 years got a bad batch of tips, [Le pro's, elk-masters, or whatever]. Some are not good, but only about 2% that I will not use.
Why change tips when it's not nessesary if you have a good tip?
If you don't know how to take care of it or need help, just ask. With proper installation and "proper" care, tips will last a long time.
It's cheaper to buy a "good tip" and spend $30.00 and play with the same touch and feel for about a year or so, rather than changing ever so offten and "taking " afew days to re-adjust to your new tip that will have to be replaced in another 2 or 3 month's, and spending more than 30 bucks over a years or so.... DUH!....
Some cue guys don't care to help others with any kind of problems, cause it might cost them cash. I am differant than that, I help. And, it's got it's rewards.
This may set a few of you guys off with my statements. SO BE IT. Most are telling a story about tips. THAT"S ALL.
None of you have come to the board and explained about tips as I have.
I have, "no bull shit", put on more tips than any single person in the world. [ I think Ted Harris may be running a close second, and might just catch up in 3 or 4 years or so, and Joe's is not far behind]........
FOLKS, I do know what I am talking about. If you think not, put up the cash, and find out.
I am not trying to piss anyone off, I am just sick and tired of those who think they know what they are talking about, when they don't have a clue...To many folks listen to them on this and other boards. It appears to me that they mis-lead others just to hear themsevels talk.
So go ahead and stat some crap guys. But in doing so, remember, I will back up what I say, with my experance and plenty of cash...Were building a new home and could use the extra cash.
blud
PS, too, cue guys answer this, [ no bull shit, just answer the questions if you can],
What is the processs and what types of leather is used, and how are they constructed to make your faviorte tips, no mattter what brand????????????? What and how are any of them made. [There make up, construction].
BTW, Don Purdy is a top cue-repair guyin the DC area. Try him, you will like his work. So is Ted Harris, Joe Blackman, and baby face, Mike Gulossie.....and a many more.
pooltablemech
Banned
WTF? What is your problem dude..........You not the only person in the world that has put a tip on before! In all those years you have never seen a bad TIP? And I don't see what reason you have for insinuating that I don't know what I am doing!........Or did I read that post of yours? Don't really understand why you would go off like that? or am I wrong by saying anything?
pooltablemech
Banned
You haven't changed a bit over the years. BLUD! YOU STILL HAVE TO BE THE BIG MAN ON THE PLAYGROUND........YOUR TOYS ARE BETTER...........YOU SHIT DON'T STINK! I DELETED MY POSTS HERE IN THIS THREAD BECAUSE OF YOUR POMPAS ATTITUDE BLUD! YOU HAVE TO PUT PEOPLE DOWN, WHICH YOU ACTUALLY ARE IGNORANT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT ME. I BELIEVE YOUR LAST POST SPEAKS WORLDS OF YOU AND WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS OF YOU. A GRUMPY OLD MAN WITH THE RIGHT WAY TO DO EVERYTHING.
Proline, seems to be the best so far for me, holds chalk and its shape well, pretty good grip without being soft.
tried moori a while back and couldn't wait to get that off, played like rubber.
Tigers played real nice but delaminated after a while.
Blue diamond and Lepro seem to be inconsistent, so you may go through a couple to find a good one.
the one triangle I had was too soft, but I have heard people say this is usually a good tip
This is my experience so far.
tried moori a while back and couldn't wait to get that off, played like rubber.
Tigers played real nice but delaminated after a while.
Blue diamond and Lepro seem to be inconsistent, so you may go through a couple to find a good one.
the one triangle I had was too soft, but I have heard people say this is usually a good tip
This is my experience so far.
I get Tiger Sniper or Moori Medium (prefer the tiger) installed for $25 CDN. Seems like a decent deal to me, $25 around every 5-6 months. Anybody notice that Moori Tips wear ultra fast. I bought a new cue with a moori Medium Tip and it was flat and gone in about 3 months maybe a little less.
Your wrong, sir. I have changed over the years. I can still pick out those who do not know what they are speaking of. It's easier and quicker these days TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES. Thats all. I don't cuss folks as you. You have indeed shown your make up.
If you had a clue about tips, you would be a gentleman and answer the questions ask of you. But, you didn't.
If your wanting to write on a subject and give your opinion, you should be well versed on the subject. With the subject of tips, sir, "YOUR NOT" well "versed". . I, in not way are trying to cuss you, hurt you, or say I know it all, as was stated before.
But you sir, get way out of line. I am not trying to put people down as you say. Just set the record straight on the tip subject, and not steer folks wrong cause it may sound good.
Once again, sir, I'll back up what I know, with cash.
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I'll be coming through Pensaloa in early Nov. Would you like to meet some place? Any place you choose? We could have a tip off contest, or whatever.
Maybe then, just maybe you could answer the questions about how tips are made and what make one better than the other, and so on....before you start giving your opinion on a subject you know "nothing" about.
Blud
If you had a clue about tips, you would be a gentleman and answer the questions ask of you. But, you didn't.
If your wanting to write on a subject and give your opinion, you should be well versed on the subject. With the subject of tips, sir, "YOUR NOT" well "versed". . I, in not way are trying to cuss you, hurt you, or say I know it all, as was stated before.
But you sir, get way out of line. I am not trying to put people down as you say. Just set the record straight on the tip subject, and not steer folks wrong cause it may sound good.
Once again, sir, I'll back up what I know, with cash.
[BET WHAT YOU WANT]
I'll be coming through Pensaloa in early Nov. Would you like to meet some place? Any place you choose? We could have a tip off contest, or whatever.
Maybe then, just maybe you could answer the questions about how tips are made and what make one better than the other, and so on....before you start giving your opinion on a subject you know "nothing" about.
Blud
pooltablemech
Banned
Gezzus dude you are the same and will always be the same. I respond to a post.......you sir decide to voice your opinion on what you think. I never claimed to be more all knowing than you the all knowingest of them all. Not sure what offended you so bad, but you need to get over yourself. What exactly is your problem? Is it because I said sometimes tips are bad? I sure would like to know why you feel it nessesary to act like a 3 year old.
pooltablemech
Banned
You are amazing BLUD.....I have a good mind to post the Private Message you sent me. You started what ever this problem is you have yourself. What is it you feel I don't know? I didn't know you had to be a genius to respond to a post here. You have your ways, which aren't always the right ones.......I hate to tell ya. Everyone has their opinoins, but I don't understand what your problem is? If you feel I have stated something YOU THINK is wrong, then speak up! I will discuss what ever you feel I have said that has got your panties in a WAD! Because I have no clue what is going on with you! I respond to a post about tips and you say that there are no such things as bad tips...................and not sure what the other things were you went off about. Then you said I was an idiot! ?????
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halhoule
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I prefer layered tips. Harder the better.
I prefer layered tips. Harder the better.