Tip Question

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raemondo

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Hi guys,

I've been using a new Moori med for about 3 months now. The tip has served me decently well, but recently I've been miscueing A LOT, especially when I'm going for the deep draws. Now, I took a look at the tip and I saw that the tip was very smooth on the top, and I thought that this might be the problem, but I did also use a Moori Med for a year previously and it rarely miscued on me.

Is is a tip defect or is it just cos I'm using far too much english? This really is hampering my game because I use english very often, and now I'm afraid to let my stroke out for the deep draws for fear of scooping the ball up.

I tried scuffing the tip with a williard dime shaper, and then fine scuffing it with an ultimate tip tool. It helped for a day, but then it became smooth again.

Do you guys out there experience the same thing, and is this also your remedy? Do I then have to be scuffing the tip before I play everytime?


thanks!
 
raemondo said:
Hi guys,

I've been using a new Moori med for about 3 months now. The tip has served me decently well, but recently I've been miscueing A LOT, especially when I'm going for the deep draws. Now, I took a look at the tip and I saw that the tip was very smooth on the top, and I thought that this might be the problem, but I did also use a Moori Med for a year previously and it rarely miscued on me.

Is is a tip defect or is it just cos I'm using far too much english? This really is hampering my game because I use english very often, and now I'm afraid to let my stroke out for the deep draws for fear of scooping the ball up.

I tried scuffing the tip with a williard dime shaper, and then fine scuffing it with an ultimate tip tool. It helped for a day, but then it became smooth again.

Do you guys out there experience the same thing, and is this also your remedy? Do I then have to be scuffing the tip before I play everytime?


thanks!
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Hi...

A professional WPBA player uses the medium Mooris, and she said they do cause minor miscues but it can easily be fixed by scuffing. I tried the mediums when they first came out, had the same - but worse - problem and quit using them. Quite a few pro's complained about this too back then, and thought this issue - with the glue/adhesive - was resolved. The indication is it has...for the most part. You might have a bad tip though... try a new one and have it examined before getting it put on.

The fact that you use a dime radius rather than the standard nickel could also be the culprit. Also, you should check it often and tap/scuff when needed. Hope this helped. I'm sure players who use these frequently will chime in. Take care! :)
 
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I had the very same problem from day one with the Moori Med., not to moention that it mushroomed really bad. I now use Thomas MH
 
You simply have to chalk better with most layered tips, standing the cue on it's bumper and brush/grind the chalk evenly into the surface.

I use rock hard mooris and molavias, and as long as I chalk correctly (and stroke the cueball nicely) miscues are a rarity.

-Roger
 
my least favorite tip of all time was the moori medium second generation tip. it had a horrible soft nothingness feel, with zero feedback, and miscued on just about every shot, when i tried scuffing and shaping with my ulti-mate-tip-tool, nothing happened, i got so frustrated, i overscuffed, and after playing with it, i broke not only my ferrul, but also my shaft!! i swore off moori's forever! then my cuemaking friend, recetnly said, you should try the new moori's the third generation's, i told him my horror story with the II generations, and he said, the new moori's have less layers, so their harder, and have less miscues, and more feedback, and he recommends a moori slow III, now, the only reason, why i am going to try it, is two fold:~~
1- everyone and his mother is now useing moori tips!! III generation.
2- i never tried the III generation, and since i'm in the I.P.T. i want the very best edge i could have, if i think the moori slow III stink, i shall have it circumsized, and have a kunami from japan installed, i was told by my pool playing pal in florida, that, they are the ultimate, he said, there softer than a triangle, and harder than a typical moori. right now i have been playing with a triangle ever since my moori nightmare.
 
8-ball bernie said:
i shall have it circumsized, and have a kunami from japan installed, i was told by my pool playing pal in florida, that, they are the ultimate, he said, there softer than a triangle, and harder than a typical moori. right now i have been playing with a triangle ever since my moori nightmare.
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Never heard of a kunami...(but heard of Tsunami)
I attempted a search but came up with nothing.
Is there a link to the tip up mentioned above?
About ready to move to a new tip and was considering the Moori III...
TNX
 
raemondo said:
Hi guys,

I've been using a new Moori med for about 3 months now. The tip has served me decently well, but recently I've been miscueing A LOT, especially when I'm going for the deep draws. Now, I took a look at the tip and I saw that the tip was very smooth on the top, and I thought that this might be the problem, but I did also use a Moori Med for a year previously and it rarely miscued on me.

Is is a tip defect or is it just cos I'm using far too much english? This really is hampering my game because I use english very often, and now I'm afraid to let my stroke out for the deep draws for fear of scooping the ball up.

I tried scuffing the tip with a williard dime shaper, and then fine scuffing it with an ultimate tip tool. It helped for a day, but then it became smooth again.

Do you guys out there experience the same thing, and is this also your remedy? Do I then have to be scuffing the tip before I play everytime?


thanks!
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I for the most part don't have a problem, but sometimes Mine will get shined up bad, and I like to use a tip pik. Don't twist though, because It can tear the tip up. I just poke tiny holes in mine to create pockets for holding the chalk better. Greg
 
I think tip selection is a bit of trial and error and art, depends a lot on your stroke and what is best for you, in other words seeking consensus here on this forum may not be optimal for your style of play. Play the field a bit more, keep an open mind, and try many tip styles.

30 years ago my father favored soft Elk Master tips, he was from the midwest and was a tip player (spinning the ball). More North Eastern US players tend to play more center ball (high/low/center) with speed control to get position. Both styles work, and I fiind uses for both styles. In close, spin is great, over distance, center ball has solid aiming accuracy going for it. Both styles work, you need them both to play the whole table well.

In my experience with Moori Medium tips, mushrooming was rare, if ever, and only in the beginning two weeks, and once fixed never ever happened again, it was a solid tip for the next 3 years. Some players locally change their tips every 7 months or so, I think they are nuts, and blaming poor stroke/miscues on their tips. Sure Moori M's are harder than others, so proper chalking before off-center hits is a concern. In 9-ball with distance and high/low left/right power shots, the Moori tip has worked great for me. In games like 14.1, where softer but a firm stroke is used, I might even prefer a sl lighter cue with a softer/medium tip.

A hard tip will require a better and more precise straight stroke time after time, while a softer tip may give a bit more margin for error and more spin. Neither is clearly best, it ends up which you prefer. And chalk well each time to remove that from the equation.
 
I had a Talisman hard, but just switched to a Tiger hard. It doesn't feel hard at all. It seems to feel like a medium and has an hit like the Sniper tips. But it holds chauk well and gives good english. It has given a little more deflection with harder juice shots.
 
i use moori III mediums and it works great for me. I chalk before every hit and dont get miscues, only very occasionally. I have been using them for over a year and its still fine. maybe you got a bad one, you should try switching it out. but i would have to say mooris are great tips
 
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