To fellow owners of the Jacoby jump cue (extended version)

DJ14.1

DJ14.1

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I'm curious to know how well you've been able to execute all manners of jump shots with this cue. I've had one for awhile and have been very impressed with it's performance.

How far have you been able to push the limits of this cue (English, ball spacing, accuracy, distance in the air, maybe doublehops, etc. etc.). Darting vs. regular cueing, extended/not extended, everything.

I'm mainly seeking feedback for what's possible, then trying to see how well I'm stacking up.

Thanks for everybody's input!
 
I actually started with the extended, then traded it for the shorter version. I'm 5'7", so I really don't need the extra length. Honestly, the only jump cue I have an easier time with is the Predator Air 2, either dart stroking or with the elevated stroke. Either way, I think I'll be sticking with the Jacoby for a long time to come.
 
I'm short too, and experience similar issues with the extended length. But I'm hoping with more practice, it'll add accuracy to long jumps over small portions of a ball. So far, I've been breaking it down on almost all shots too. So yeah, this is one of my questions about it also.
 
DJ14.1 said:
I'm short too, and experience similar issues with the extended length. But I'm hoping with more practice, it'll add accuracy to long jumps over small portions of a ball. So far, I've been breaking it down on almost all shots too. So yeah, this is one of my questions about it also.
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TBH, I haven't come across a jump yet where I wanted the extra length. if something like that comes up, I have my break cue for that. Full-cue jumping isn't a bad skill to have in your arsenal, either.
 
I love my Jacoby for short jumps using the dart stroke. I had a really tight one, maybe just over an inch from the OB, and cleared it easily with a dart stroke.

For longer jumps using an traditional stroke I tend to use my Gilbert jump/break as I like the feel and weight better for that type of stroke, but I used the Jacoby the other day for one and it worked pretty well so maybe I just need to practice with it a little more.
 
slide13 said:
I love my Jacoby for short jumps using the dart stroke. I had a really tight one, maybe just over an inch from the OB, and cleared it easily with a dart stroke.

For longer jumps using an traditional stroke I tend to use my Gilbert jump/break as I like the feel and weight better for that type of stroke, but I used the Jacoby the other day for one and it worked pretty well so maybe I just need to practice with it a little more.
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+1 on the bolded part. Also, I like the brass ferrule. it gives the cue a balance that helps keep the tip down through the stroke.
 
Spent a lot of time practicing my jumps on my home table. Here is what I have come up with.

1. For long jumps further than 2 balls from the obstructing ball, I use the full jump stick with a regular stroke. This seems to give me my best accuracy and speed control. This is a lower height jump only enough to clear the obstructing ball.
2. For shorter jumps where the OB is less than 3 feet away and I want to elevate the CB quickly, I take the butt off and use dart method. I can easily jump the obstructing ball when the CB is more than 1 ball away. I am still working on the dart method as I sometimes get side spin on the CB when I do not want any.
3. For jumps less than a ball from the obstructing ball (one half to one ball), I take the intermediate part of the stick off and attach the butt to the shaft. This seems to help me gain elevation of the CB quickly. I do this for shots up to about 3 feet away. Oh, I use the dart method.

Still working on my jumping technique and it gets better all the time.

Oh, I am 6' 1".

Al
 
Yeah I can get over a whole ball from about 1" away. I especially like that you can make the cueball land soft and not lose it off the table (especially barboxes).

My cueball lands pretty flat though. It checks up nice, but I can't really draw it much unless I use a full stick to jump. Wonder if anyone can impart much draw with the fully extended Jacoby? I really can't yet. I think the tip might be too hard to get decent grab.

I've even gone over the whole object ball a few times until I got the feel for the stick.
 
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Forgot to mention one thing, I try to only jump as high as I need to. I don't think you want a bouncing ball as it can change your shot angle depending on the bounce just before contact with the OB. I have jumped up to 3 linear feet with no difficulty. I would assume the CB must be up to about a foot off the table and I am shooting parallel to the long rails.

Al
 
ssbn610g said:
Forgot to mention one thing, I try to only jump as high as I need to. I don't think you want a bouncing ball as it can change your shot angle depending on the bounce just before contact with the OB. I have jumped up to 3 linear feet with no difficulty. I would assume the CB must be up to about a foot off the table and I am shooting parallel to the long rails.

Al
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Agreed on this.

Since my original post, I messed around it more at full extended length. Even though I'm only 5'7, I feel the length does add some accuracy and cueball control, but you do need to hit it better (more risky, similar to full cue jumps). But my lack of height doesn't really limit me now that I've developed better feel. I think it's worth having the option to break down or go full-length regardless of height, but that's just my opinion.

Any more experiences to share? I'm curious to know more if anyone has more info to share on their times with this nice Jacoby.
 
DJ14.1 said:
Yeah I can get over a whole ball from about 1" away. I especially like that you can make the cueball land soft and not lose it off the table (especially barboxes).

My cueball lands pretty flat though. It checks up nice, but I can't really draw it much unless I use a full stick to jump. Wonder if anyone can impart much draw with the fully extended Jacoby? I really can't yet. I think the tip might be too hard to get decent grab.

I've even gone over the whole object ball a few times until I got the feel for the stick.
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I don't own a Jacoby, but have used the 2 piece before and I own a Lomax 3 piece which is similar to the Jacoby 3 piece. Something to keep in mind is the extension(3rd piece) is not there to use full time. I find it only useful on slightly longer landing area jump shots. I would remove it for any standard jump shot. Closest I have ever cleared with either cue is about half a chalk width, without the extension. The tip doesn't prevent you from getting action on the cue ball, your technique does.

Only way I can say this is that your asking questions that the answers too cannot be told to you. I could sit here and explain everything that needs to happen for the action you are seeking, but without seeing why you're not getting the desired action it's useless information. Jumping isn't about power, it's about speed. If you aren't getting as much draw as you desire, problem number one is most likely you're not hitting 'low' enough. That leads to the next problem. That 'low' is still on top of the ball. When you find the point of low that you're no longer capable of clearing the impeding ball with, jack the back end of the cue up. But again, without video I'm just assuming based on my experience with my Lomax 3 piece. I know a Jacoby is also slightly heavier than my Lomax too.
 
Hits 'em Hard said:
I don't own a Jacoby, but have used the 2 piece before and I own a Lomax 3 piece which is similar to the Jacoby 3 piece. Something to keep in mind is the extension(3rd piece) is not there to use full time. I find it only useful on slightly longer landing area jump shots. I would remove it for any standard jump shot. Closest I have ever cleared with either cue is about half a chalk width, without the extension. The tip doesn't prevent you from getting action on the cue ball, your technique does.

Only way I can say this is that your asking questions that the answers too cannot be told to you. I could sit here and explain everything that needs to happen for the action you are seeking, but without seeing why you're not getting the desired action it's useless information. Jumping isn't about power, it's about speed. If you aren't getting as much draw as you desire, problem number one is most likely you're not hitting 'low' enough. That leads to the next problem. That 'low' is still on top of the ball. When you find the point of low that you're no longer capable of clearing the impeding ball with, jack the back end of the cue up. But again, without video I'm just assuming based on my experience with my Lomax 3 piece. I know a Jacoby is also slightly heavier than my Lomax too.
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Yes, I agree with you completely. The intent of my original post was to understand the absolute limits of the stick as used by a talented player....what is actually possible and not possible. That way I can know how well I'm actually executing all of the different variety of shots. Yes I break it down on all standard shots also, totally in line with your statement. I don't think drawing the ball much is possible with the stick broken down (similar to most other jump cues), but I might be wrong. But it might very well be possible with the extended length (I suspect it is), as it is with a full length shooting cue.

Bottom line is I haven't put the hours in to find out yet, hence me tossing the questions to the forum. If it's possible, I'll be able to do it with enough time.
 
DJ14.1 said:
Yes, I agree with you completely. The intent of my original post was to understand the absolute limits of the stick as used by a talented player....what is actually possible and not possible. That way I can know how well I'm actually executing all of the different variety of shots. Yes I break it down on all standard shots also, totally in line with your statement. I don't think drawing the ball much is possible with the stick broken down (similar to most other jump cues), but I might be wrong. But it might very well be possible with the extended length (I suspect it is), as it is with a full length shooting cue.

Bottom line is I haven't put the hours in to find out yet, hence me tossing the questions to the forum. If it's possible, I'll be able to do it with enough time.
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Yes it is possible. You may not be able to do it consistently if you don't have proper feedback while in doing that though.
 
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