Tried out aiming system today

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I test drove the aiming system described by Mohrt this morning and I'll try to give an honest opinion on it.

Does it Work?
Yes. I've only tried it with centerball hits so far, but it did work. I tried many shots with the different cut thicknesses and they all worked. I also picked a few that I normally have trouble with to try to reduce the chances of "cheating" - subconsciously aiming like I normally would.

How Difficult was it to Learn?
Mohrt's instructions were very clear and easy to understand. But when I took it to the table, I missed every single shot. Pivoting with my cue felt awkward and subjective and I felt I was getting very inconsistent results to the point that I was ready to dismiss the system. I decided to try pivoting mentally instead of with my cue and the system started working immediately.

Total time spent to familiarize myself with the system was less than 15 minutes (having read the article beforehand) and the majority of that time was spent trying to figure out the pivot.

Is it Accurate?
Yes - it seemed easily accurate enough to play on a lightly shimmed 9' table at least. I tried out several backcuts, extreme cuts, and various other shots and the system worked fine. The balls were consistently going in clean, not rattling.

Overall Impression
It works.

It only worked for me when I pivoted mentally, and that probably raises the question of how much of it is the system versus subconscious aiming on my part. I can't objectively answer that. All I can say is I gave an honest effort to blindly follow the system and that I consistently made some shots that I struggle with like blind backcuts.

I should also say that I use pre-applied english (basically a mental pivot before you get down). I think that brings into question the objectivity of my mental pivot because it seems a bit like un-pivoting pre-applied english to get back to the original aim point.

Either way I think the aiming lines are an excellent frame of reference and my guess is they'd accelerate the learning process.
 
I test drove the aiming system described by Mohrt this morning and I'll try to give an honest opinion on it.

Does it Work?
Yes. I've only tried it with centerball hits so far, but it did work. I tried many shots with the different cut thicknesses and they all worked. I also picked a few that I normally have trouble with to try to reduce the chances of "cheating" - subconsciously aiming like I normally would.

How Difficult was it to Learn?
Mohrt's instructions were very clear and easy to understand. But when I took it to the table, I missed every single shot. Pivoting with my cue felt awkward and subjective and I felt I was getting very inconsistent results to the point that I was ready to dismiss the system. I decided to try pivoting mentally instead of with my cue and the system started working immediately.

Total time spent to familiarize myself with the system was less than 15 minutes (having read the article beforehand) and the majority of that time was spent trying to figure out the pivot.

Is it Accurate?
Yes - it seemed easily accurate enough to play on a lightly shimmed 9' table at least. I tried out several backcuts, extreme cuts, and various other shots and the system worked fine. The balls were consistently going in clean, not rattling.

Overall Impression
It works.

It only worked for me when I pivoted mentally, and that probably raises the question of how much of it is the system versus subconscious aiming on my part. I can't objectively answer that. All I can say is I gave an honest effort to blindly follow the system and that I consistently made some shots that I struggle with like blind backcuts.

I should also say that I use pre-applied english (basically a mental pivot before you get down). I think that brings into question the objectivity of my mental pivot because it seems a bit like un-pivoting pre-applied english to get back to the original aim point.

Either way I think the aiming lines are an excellent frame of reference and my guess is they'd accelerate the learning process.

He is referring to this one:

http://www.billiardsthegame.com/offset-and-pivot-aiming-systems-395

It is interesting you say you started pivoting "mentally", by that do you mean thinking of the pivot along the object-ball arc, or something else?
 
I've been playing with it for a few weeks and have had positive results. Mohrt's instructions are clear. I only play a couple time per week, but have absolutely improved my shotmaking. A real big plus for me is that it really forces a solid per-shot routine. Actually, I find when I rush it and get lazy, that's when I miss.

I also get amused at all the people asking me what the hell I'm doing with that pivot thing!
 
I don't understand the pivot thing!
I do have an open mind.
My wife will tell you that it's because I have a hole in my head.
:rolleyes:
 
I don't understand the pivot thing!
I do have an open mind.
My wife will tell you that it's because I have a hole in my head.
:rolleyes:

Whether you use a manual on the table pivot, or pivot in the air, it's how you get to your final aim/shot line. Hope this helps. :thumbup:
 
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