when i was 8 years old i learned how to play pool in my uncle's basement, in leonia new jersey on a regulation sized victor pool table, which he purchased out of a pool room. the year was 1968. my uncle still has the same table, all original equipment, talk about a cheapo guy!, also, he never plays, so why bother changing anything? anyhow, the table featured red pockets made of metal, and everytime you played into the side pocket in a certain way, the metal would ring! i heard, that a few years ago, the company went out of business. if you look carefully on the bert kinister tapes, i believe he uses a victor.