I hope I am not going to piss any one off , but yea I had one I got of eBay to give to a noob in my Billiards club. It's a piece of trash by normal standards. Philipino stuff. Worped after 2 weeks, hit like shit. It's good for a guy that wants his own cue that never plaied pool before and is not very passionate about pool. But as a platform for learning and advancing I the game I would stay away. And get a players, McDermott, used aching, joss , the big brands in general.