Wanted: Mottey or White Hoppe.

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I'm interested to see what's available. It must be a Mottey or White Hoppe. Please P.M. all cues available. Thank You.
 
86 Flame veneer mottey

I have an excellent shape with three stitch ring shafts. Butt and shafts are straight. I am asking 2K. Cue was my player for two years but I landed a six point Black Boar and don't need two expensive cues. I actually traded a Black Boar for the Mottey. Note: The Mottey does not have a Hoppe style ring, But it does Have red accent ring in the butt. Call if intersted 757-897-8010 or e-mail rwehoback@aol.com It would be easier for me to attach pics to e-mail. THANKS, BILLY HO
 
I got one. It's a bit fancier.

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I have this one in brazilian flame rosewood.

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Cue is like new with 2 full shafts.

PM me if you are interested. I am in Europe though...
 
Just Be Careful When Buying Ivory Out Of The U.S.

While looking for your cue, just exercuise care and "caution" buying any cue outside of the U.S. due to the ivory ban limitations. This isn't something to be taken lightly unless you have money to throw away. If the cue gets detected coming into the U.S., or any ot its territories, and the shipper cannot docuement that all of the ivory in the cue is "not" elephant ivory, then the cue is subject to immediate and permanent revocation.......i.e., the buyer is out their money and the seller is without their cue but the seller still otherwise at least still has the buyer's payment.

There's been lots written about this and the ivory ban is strictly enforced. It's very risky trying to ship any cue that has ivory into or out of the US and if you risk it, then don't complain about the outcome if it turns out bad. Here's a wb link expalining this by the American Cuemakers Association (www.cuemakers.org/aboutivory.php)

It's impossible to even do an escrow here in the US because the escrow agent would be knowing violating federal law for illegally trafficking in ivory and any escrow agent will tell you this if the item they're going to receive is coming from outside the US and it contains ivory. The assumption under the law is that all ivory is elephant ivory unless the individual can substantiate that the ivory is indeed not from an elephant. That's pretty hard to do especially with an older cue because virtually all of the ivory used at that time was indeed elephant ivory.

So as you look for your special cue, if it's outside the uS and has any ivory in it......well, you know what the risks are so don't count on receiving the cue or getting your money back from a seller outside the U.S. There's no way of compelling them to return your payment either so it's strictly a matter of trust on your part....and Paul Mottey cues don't come cheap nowadays.
 
Bavafongoul said:
While looking for your cue, just exercuise care and "caution" buying any cue outside of the U.S. due to the ivory ban limitations. This isn't something to be taken lightly unless you have money to throw away. If the cue gets detected coming into the U.S., or any ot its territories, and the shipper cannot docuement that all of the ivory in the cue is "not" elephant ivory, then the cue is subject to immediate and permanent revocation.......i.e., the buyer is out their money and the seller is without their cue but the seller still otherwise at least still has the buyer's payment.

There's been lots written about this and the ivory ban is strictly enforced. It's very risky trying to ship any cue that has ivory into or out of the US and if you risk it, then don't complain about the outcome if it turns out bad. Here's a wb link expalining this by the American Cuemakers Association (www.cuemakers.org/aboutivory.php)

It's impossible to even do an escrow here in the US because the escrow agent would be knowing violating federal law for illegally trafficking in ivory and any escrow agent will tell you this if the item they're going to receive is coming from outside the US and it contains ivory. The assumption under the law is that all ivory is elephant ivory unless the individual can substantiate that the ivory is indeed not from an elephant. That's pretty hard to do especially with an older cue because virtually all of the ivory used at that time was indeed elephant ivory.

So as you look for your special cue, if it's outside the uS and has any ivory in it......well, you know what the risks are so don't count on receiving the cue or getting your money back from a seller outside the U.S. There's no way of compelling them to return your payment either so it's strictly a matter of trust on your part....and Paul Mottey cues don't come cheap nowadays.
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Hi Mr Ivory Police (I have seen about 20 tiresome posts by you on this topic) Since this guy is in Switzerland, you point is rather moot.
 
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I receive more then few cues from USA to Europe full with Ivory without any kind of problems.Some of the senders was respectable Az members and dealers.
Bavafongoul said:
While looking for your cue, just exercuise care and "caution" buying any cue outside of the U.S. due to the ivory ban limitations. This isn't something to be taken lightly unless you have money to throw away. If the cue gets detected coming into the U.S., or any ot its territories, and the shipper cannot docuement that all of the ivory in the cue is "not" elephant ivory, then the cue is subject to immediate and permanent revocation.......i.e., the buyer is out their money and the seller is without their cue but the seller still otherwise at least still has the buyer's payment.

There's been lots written about this and the ivory ban is strictly enforced. It's very risky trying to ship any cue that has ivory into or out of the US and if you risk it, then don't complain about the outcome if it turns out bad. Here's a wb link expalining this by the American Cuemakers Association (www.cuemakers.org/aboutivory.php)

It's impossible to even do an escrow here in the US because the escrow agent would be knowing violating federal law for illegally trafficking in ivory and any escrow agent will tell you this if the item they're going to receive is coming from outside the US and it contains ivory. The assumption under the law is that all ivory is elephant ivory unless the individual can substantiate that the ivory is indeed not from an elephant. That's pretty hard to do especially with an older cue because virtually all of the ivory used at that time was indeed elephant ivory.

So as you look for your special cue, if it's outside the uS and has any ivory in it......well, you know what the risks are so don't count on receiving the cue or getting your money back from a seller outside the U.S. There's no way of compelling them to return your payment either so it's strictly a matter of trust on your part....and Paul Mottey cues don't come cheap nowadays.
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Some People Care & others Don't

Take it for what it's worth....you paid nothing to get this information so perhaps that's all it's worth to you....like I said....roll the dice & take your chances......but some folks still care about the ivory ban but apparently some readers like Grantstew think it's all a folly....otherwise one never tires of hearing reminders about an important issue like elephant ivory being banned......Hey GS.....own much whale Scrimshaw?.....I mean....there's lots of whales right so who really cares.........Oh, so there's really not a whole lot of them left......Hmn..........Well, there used to be...........DUH????????
 
Bavafongoul said:
Take it for what it's worth....you paid nothing to get this information so perhaps that's all it's worth to you....like I said....roll the dice & take your chances......but some folks still care about the ivory ban but apparently some readers like Grantstew think it's all a folly....otherwise one never tires of hearing reminders about an important issue like elephant ivory being banned......Hey GS.....own much whale Scrimshaw?.....I mean....there's lots of whales right so who really cares.........Oh, so there's really not a whole lot of them left......Hmn..........Well, there used to be...........DUH????????
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Hey Bavafongoul,why don't you take your long and boring comments to the main forum.You are screwing with the mans sales thread,again!My apologies to the OP.
 
Bavafongoul said:
While looking for your cue, just exercuise care and "caution" buying any cue outside of the U.S. due to the ivory ban limitations. This isn't something to be taken lightly unless you have money to throw away. If the cue gets detected coming into the U.S., or any ot its territories, and the shipper cannot docuement that all of the ivory in the cue is "not" elephant ivory, then the cue is subject to immediate and permanent revocation.......i.e., the buyer is out their money and the seller is without their cue but the seller still otherwise at least still has the buyer's payment.

There's been lots written about this and the ivory ban is strictly enforced. It's very risky trying to ship any cue that has ivory into or out of the US and if you risk it, then don't complain about the outcome if it turns out bad. Here's a wb link expalining this by the American Cuemakers Association (www.cuemakers.org/aboutivory.php)

It's impossible to even do an escrow here in the US because the escrow agent would be knowing violating federal law for illegally trafficking in ivory and any escrow agent will tell you this if the item they're going to receive is coming from outside the US and it contains ivory. The assumption under the law is that all ivory is elephant ivory unless the individual can substantiate that the ivory is indeed not from an elephant. That's pretty hard to do especially with an older cue because virtually all of the ivory used at that time was indeed elephant ivory.

So as you look for your special cue, if it's outside the uS and has any ivory in it......well, you know what the risks are so don't count on receiving the cue or getting your money back from a seller outside the U.S. There's no way of compelling them to return your payment either so it's strictly a matter of trust on your part....and Paul Mottey cues don't come cheap nowadays.
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good information and thanks for looking out and informing us about the restrictions.
 
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