WARNING you may drool on your computer!!!!!
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drooling!
(wiping my mouth) too many inlays for me...but very nice cues!cosmocues said:
duke@neo.rr.com said:
Thanks now that is what u call mouth watering goodness..
Jimbo.. look .. look!!!!
OMG, OMG Szamboti inspired cues, (one is a dead ringer for one we have) OMG OMG Call the cue design cops.>> weeuuuu weeeuuu Jimbo where r u??? Hurry up, get your badge, put down the doughnuts... Uh oh.. the perps are getting away.. one adam 12, one adam 12 we have a JBO211 in progress...
Hurry.. Bookem' Jimbo. da na na na na naaaaaa da na na na na...
You have the right to put down your flat end mill....
Anything you do can and will never be your idea....
You have the right to a version of autocad 2000
If you cannot afford one, use autocad lite instead....
Joe
OMG, OMG Szamboti inspired cues, (one is a dead ringer for one we have) OMG OMG Call the cue design cops.>> weeuuuu weeeuuu Jimbo where r u??? Hurry up, get your badge, put down the doughnuts... Uh oh.. the perps are getting away.. one adam 12, one adam 12 we have a JBO211 in progress...
Hurry.. Bookem' Jimbo. da na na na na naaaaaa da na na na na...
You have the right to put down your flat end mill....
Anything you do can and will never be your idea....
You have the right to a version of autocad 2000
If you cannot afford one, use autocad lite instead....
Joe
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classiccues said:OMG, OMG Szamboti inspired cues, (one is a dead ringer for one we have)
Joe
One "WE" have Joe????? LOL That's a good one.
I've already said Paul has been known to steal a design or 2, please post up the link to the cue so we can all see how much of a true artist he is. I'd love to see if the cue is a direct copy or not, and trust me I'll stick with my story stealing designs is wrong if the cue maker is alive or dead. You're a hypocrite and very good at avoiding the question. Where do you draw the line? Does the guy have to be alive? Does the cue have to be a one of a kind? Where would you stand if another cuemaker made an exact copy of the Sea world cue??? (you remember the sea world cue “WE” have right??) Wait what if he did it and called it a Mottey inspired cue LOL?? Yeah I know you're not in any hurry to answer the question.
JIM
You guys have too much time on your hands I see....I ordered the Szamboti copy cue from Paul because I liked it and obviously cant get one from Szamboti or afford to buy the same one from CLASSICCUES with the asking price of $75,000 right JOE...So quit knocking Pauls work because he is definetely one of the best cuemakers on the planet....And by the way your thread with the cops nonsense about the cue is definetely GAY and you should be embarrased to have written it!
cosmocues said:
Agreed Joe's post was pretty gay, but it was his own and he gets a small thrill out of thinking he is creative, just let him have a little time to smile at himself in the mirror.
Now on to the cue, I'm really getting bored of asking the question only to have it ignored. Where do *YOU* draw the line??? At this point I'll take an answer from anyone here. If you really liked Thomas Wayne's Celtic Prince (famous cue sold for 103K, Most expensive cue ever sold, cover of BD) would you think it's ok to have another cuemaker recreate this work of art? How about Edwin Reyes' Shadow's in the Jungle cue, or Richard Black's Athena? Please tell me where you guys draw the line? Just because you like the look of a cue and can't afford the cue is no excuse. Big F-in deal you like it, it's not your inalienable rights, you don't have the right to own whatever you want and whatever you can talk someone else into stealing. You can't afford 75K for the cue, go get a side job. STOP CUE DESIGN THEFT!
JIM
larrynj1 said:
i feel if a cue maker of a higher status makes a design similiar to another cue makers cue.. i think they should be flattered...
becuase the people who know anything about cues.. would know who made what and what was made first..
i would say, if somebody made a cue with a design similiar to a cue that is worth alot.. they better do a FANTASTIC job.. or a better job then the original cause all the assholes out there will pick them apart for showing their ability...
now.. if a cue maker made a copy of a cue and did a horrible job or made it cheaply, then i think that should be wrong.. especially all these mass produced cues...
but thats just how i feel..
chris
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First I want to apologize to Joe as I didnt know he was Giving JimBLOW a dig...Sorry Joe...Ok now back to cue design theft..LOL...If there is such a thing...If that is the case every cuemaker that made a plain 4 point 4 veneer cue at one time or another is guilty then right ? You can go on and on about this but guess what Jimblow ...GET A LIFE!
JimBo said:
I am a hypocrite? Hey buddy.. you sit hear on your soapbox preaching to stop cue design theft, but you have no problem padding the pockets of those stealing the designs to enhance your collection. You also don't call out cuemakers you are buddy-buddy with. I don't remember seeing you lambast Murray for making Mark a Szamboti style cue. Not only are you a hypocrite, you are a paper tiger. Tell you what, come back here when you are willing to put your money where your mouth is.. maybe you should sell your Schicks, and your Scruggs and all the other cues that were made by "copy cats" and stop being such a blowhard. Or shut the hell up, or go get some convictions.
Where do I draw the line? I don't draw the line, but if I did, bet your butt I would be towing it. I wouldn't care if someone copied Sea World, or the Celtic Prince or any other damn cue because there is only ONE original.
Joe
cosmocues said:
Damn right you'll apologize..
You're getting more exposure now LOL... You know we have a great relationship with Paul and Jim and you should know I would never take a swipe at them.Joe
Its one thing to do a cue with a simple design, and another to steal a design like the Sea World. To do a design like the Sea World, you'll have to go out of your way to even make it look remotely close to a Sea World Inspired cue. Just like some of the fancy designs McWorter makes. If a design that comes close to it is ever made again, its hard to say its a true original design. Both designs mostly don't use design components that would be considered normal designs. They're more like artistic designs. If a cuemaker makees a cue using a steel joint, 4 spliced points, and ebony butt with delrin buttcap, he's just utilizing designs that most people considered "classic" or normal designs. If he does a superb job with the cue and the cue plays nice, I think those are what's important. Not every cue maker go out of the way to design something that nobody has every seen. Jimbo said in another thread something like "if a cue maker doens't come up with a design that is truly original, he shouldn't be making cues at all". That's a load of crap. If that statement actually came from a cue artist who had invented something truly original, maybe it would deserve more weight. As it came from someone who's not a cue artist, its nothing to pay too much attention to. There are lots of good cuemakers that make oustanding playing cues, without designing something that's original.
SplicedPoints said:
VERY WELL SAID.....
and you know what.. i do believe alot of cue makers do use inspiration from each other... and they all have made cues wich others are similiar.. but there are also alot of cues that they dont ever duplicate...
like.. the first person to make a cue with Boxed points.. man.. whoever that was.. he was a genious.. because they look amazing...
or the first person to scrimshaw their ivory for design... man.. that adds a great touch to the art.. or even the first person to use Ring Lizard... i couldnt tell you who the first person ever to use it was.. i know Paul mottey uses it on almost every cue.. for the most part.. but who is to know who did it first...
alot of these guys might as well stop making cues.. because there are so many other their now.. they all will be hard pressed for comming up with something completley new.. anything compltley revolutionary.. i suppose its possible.. but untill then.. i will like what they all make...
chris