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Ok, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but did anyone read the story on the az homepage?

83 players for a Planet Pool tournament in one of the nicest new rooms around, and first place was 1350.00?

WTF is that all about?

I hope the calcutta was strong at least.
 
Eh- hard to say, except the calcutta part. I am sure there was none.

According to http://www.planet-pool.com/ the previous event, Laurel, MD had 106 men & 24 ladies.

(#Participants x Entry fee) vs. payout:

Men:106x60= 6360 vs. 6290
Ladies 45x24= 1080 vs. 1200
Are the men subsidizing the ladies?!

7440 total in (before$2k added).
7490 total out.

I'm also sure running a tour is a real money-maker. That's why we should jump right in...not!

-pigo
 
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i'm sure it was a small tournament. here's how i see it. the only tournaments worth checking out, and caring about are the following: may-- the first big tournament of the year-- the bca 9-ball open in vegas. july-- the world championship 9-ball tournament-- taiwan. august-- the international challenge of champions conneticut. september-- the u.s. open--virginia. october-- sudden death 7-ball/trick shot magic--maryland. december--the mosconi cup-vegas, and the womens nationals. those are the big ones, everything else, small potatos.
 
Here is the skinny on the payouts.

The Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour pays out one-third of the field. The entry to most Joss tournaments is $100 and sometimes $125. Most times, there is a calcutta, which provides an opportunity to bring home more money on the Joss Tour.

The Planet Pool 9-Ball Tour, after Falcon Cues discontinued their sponsorship for reasons unknown, changed their payout percentage and now pays out three-eighths of the field. The entry fee is $60 for the Open Event. This tour has never had a calcutta, except in one rare instance, to my recollection. The website -- http://www.pooltour.com -- for Planet Pool 9-Ball is topnotch and very helpful to players and spectators alike, one feature that separates this tour from the rest, and the tournaments always run smooth as butter, thanks to the expertise of the staff, something a lot of players may take for granted at times.

Nike just "shedded its corporate image" and is targeting the skateboarding market. "Such margins, of course, can only be fueled by customer demand, which is why Nike has gone out of its way to earn the respect of skaters by selling exclusively to independent shops, advertising nowhere but in skateboard magazines, and offering sponsorships to influential pro riders. The strategy has helped Nike score enormous 'street cred' -- that delicate balance of being cool without trying too hard. It also serves as a lesson for any company looking to corner a fickle youth market, be it skateboarders, preteen girls, or hip 20-somethings."

Hoping Nike decides to take a look at the recent popularity of pool. I would think there are more people playing pool than skateboarding.

ManlyShot
 
THE SILENCER said:
i'm sure it was a small tournament. here's how i see it. the only tournaments worth checking out, and caring about are the following: may-- the first big tournament of the year-- the bca 9-ball open in vegas. july-- the world championship 9-ball tournament-- taiwan. august-- the international challenge of champions conneticut. september-- the u.s. open--virginia. october-- sudden death 7-ball/trick shot magic--maryland. december--the mosconi cup-vegas, and the womens nationals. those are the big ones, everything else, small potatos.
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You have to wonder how deep the payout was, and how much of the entry fee went to greens fee's and such to see if the payout was right or not.

Now if your a PLAYER. It would make sense that you want to know if a tour pays out a decent sum or not. That is the determining factor to many, if they want to go play. Total cost to play vs. the prize money payed out.
Also to see if your getting ripped off or not.

As for the tournaments that SILENCER mentioned.
I don't know if the world championship tournament is an invitational or not, but other than the U.S open, EVERY tournament on the list is an invitational.
Why are they even being mentioned?

You can't play in the BCA 9 ball unless your invited or you win a qualifier.
Challenge of champions is an invitational.
Sudden death 7ball is HOPKINS' hand picked tournament.
Mosconi cup is based on UPA rankings.
And unless you want to dress in drag.....the womens tournament is...well a womens tournament.
So if your a POOL PLAYER....The only way your gonna get into those tournaments is if your a NAME....or your some super gifted newcomer.
So for everyone ELSE on the planet. The small tours ARE worth checking out, and questioning a payout is NORMAL.

and considering that PLANET POOL is relatively inexpensive, i'm sure that after everything was said and done, the prize money was probably about right. Can't very well see the OWNER ripping himself off.

If your strickly a FAN....then i guess you can be picky about what you want to watch or play in, cause your not playing in ANYTHING.

SUPERSTAR
 
THE SILENCER said:
i'm sure it was a small tournament. here's how i see it. the only tournaments worth checking out, and caring about are the following: may-- the first big tournament of the year-- the bca 9-ball open in vegas. july-- the world championship 9-ball tournament-- taiwan. august-- the international challenge of champions conneticut. september-- the u.s. open--virginia. october-- sudden death 7-ball/trick shot magic--maryland. december--the mosconi cup-vegas, and the womens nationals. those are the big ones, everything else, small potatos.
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May is the BCA 8 ball in vegas

November 16-21 is the BCA 9 ball in Vegas ( new event this year )

Don't forget about Derby City in Janurary
 
Your hat is cool, SUPERSTAR.

SUPERSTAR said:
You have to wonder how deep the payout was, and how much of the entry fee went to greens fee's and such to see if the payout was right or not.

Now if your a PLAYER. It would make sense that you want to know if a tour pays out a decent sum or not. That is the determining factor to many, if they want to go play. Total cost to play vs. the prize money payed out.
Also to see if your getting ripped off or not.

As for the tournaments that SILENCER mentioned.
I don't know if the world championship tournament is an invitational or not, but other than the U.S open, EVERY tournament on the list is an invitational.
Why are they even being mentioned?

You can't play in the BCA 9 ball unless your invited or you win a qualifier.
Challenge of champions is an invitational.
Sudden death 7ball is HOPKINS' hand picked tournament.
Mosconi cup is based on UPA rankings.
And unless you want to dress in drag.....the womens tournament is...well a womens tournament.
So if your a POOL PLAYER....The only way your gonna get into those tournaments is if your a NAME....or your some super gifted newcomer.
So for everyone ELSE on the planet. The small tours ARE worth checking out, and questioning a payout is NORMAL.

and considering that PLANET POOL is relatively inexpensive, i'm sure that after everything was said and done, the prize money was probably about right. Can't very well see the OWNER ripping himself off.

If your strickly a FAN....then i guess you can be picky about what you want to watch or play in, cause your not playing in ANYTHING.

SUPERSTAR
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Superstar, I agree with everything in your post 100 percent, and you are right on the money (no pun intended). ;)

There is a sense of inequity when a tournament such as the BCA Open, which is an invitational ONLY event, is only available to the top 32 American UPA members who will receive UPA ranking points just for showing up.

The UPA members who participate in the BCA Open receive ranking points. This is unfair to non-UPA members, such as Earl Strickland as an example, or a UPA member who paid $100 for membership but is not invited to these tournaments because they were not high enough up on the UPA ranking scale. The UPA members who participate in the BCA Open will receive UPA ranking points and will FOREVER be higher up on the UPA rankings than other UPA members who were not invited.

So, when the WPC approaches and the UPA is deciding who to send to represent the U.S., those uninvited UPA members who did not receive any UPA ranking points from the BCA Open in Vegas will NEVER be eligible to participate in larger-scale tournaments such as the WPC.

The UPA ranking points are only helpful to the UPA elite, and lower-ranked UPA touring pros will never enjoy the benefits of being a UPA member because it is impossible for them to receive UPA ranking points when they are not participating in the invitational-only tournaments.

ManlyShot
 
Just to clear a few things up....

When you look at the dollars in and the dollars out - you can't just add up the entry fees and subtract the payout. There are a ton of other expenses involved.

First... Planet-Pool gives out year end prizes for the points winners, last year it was cash for the top three spots for the men's and the women's as well as cues for the top three spots, the top 16 men received embroidered shirts with "elite 16" on them. The top 8 women received embroidered shirts as well.

Second... Planet-Pool in their year opener gave out t-shirts to all who signed up - that was 100 t-shirts free.

Third... there is a mailing to some 300 players for each and every event.

Fourth... Flyers at the host pool room & posters at all host rooms for all events

Fifth - travel costs for some of the events

Should I go on?

Tournaments are definitely not a money making venture - especially ones that are run as nicely as Planet-Pool.

Unlike the larger pro events - there are no ticket sales for spectators, to cover the additional costs.

Just thought I'd set the record a little bit straighter. ;)
 
BackPocket9Ball said:
Your hat is cool, SUPERSTAR.
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Ok...first to BREAKUP. The BCA team 8 ball and singles 8 ball and all that 8 ball stuff is being held in a week in vegas. DURING THAT....the BCA 9 BALL OPEN is being held as well. 64 women, and 64 men. The 9 ball isn't new...it's been around for a while now.

Now to BP9B. I can see that you still think i'm him...or that he's me...or whatever.
Oh well....not going to try and convince you. People are gonna think what they wanna to regardless.
BUT....I totally agree with you. I can't figure out where the heck he got them from. (he has 3 of them). He even comes in with T-SHIRTS with the logo on them as well.
Whenever i ask him where he got them from...he just smiles and doesn't answer me.
The logo kind of fits his personality though.

later

SUPERSTAR
 
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