http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS4jH_59lXw&search=IPT
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Daddypool
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WATCH O'Sullivan's break and 1 rack against Archer here!
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The break looked decent.daddypool said:
His end pattern wasn't very good. He made what I consider the most subtle and deadly mistakes in runout 8-ball: leaving the ball in the center of the table as the last shot. He actually left both the bad balls as his last two, and left himself a dicey out. For amateurs, that could have been disastrous.
Fred
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The coverage seemed not too great to me. I don't speak german, so I don't know about the commentary, but those roving camera angles can get annoying. I guess they're trying to heighten the drama or make you fell like you're there or whatever. But it makes it hard to actually follow the pool because they cut out half the table most of the time.
Like on the last shot in the side, Ronnie got up to think about it, but they didn't even show where the 8-ball was or any of the rest of the table, so you couldnt think the shot out along with him unless you remembered the layout exactly from the last time the showed it like three shots ago.
On edit: don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely thrilled that you posted the video (or whoever did), and I love watching it, just those were my thoughts about the coverage. When I read it over it sounded more negative than I meant it to be. Cheers.
Like on the last shot in the side, Ronnie got up to think about it, but they didn't even show where the 8-ball was or any of the rest of the table, so you couldnt think the shot out along with him unless you remembered the layout exactly from the last time the showed it like three shots ago.
On edit: don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely thrilled that you posted the video (or whoever did), and I love watching it, just those were my thoughts about the coverage. When I read it over it sounded more negative than I meant it to be. Cheers.
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Why does Archer keep switching cues during his runs?
What about the hanger, Fred? Everytime I see "in-the-know" 8 ball players advising less fortunate souls to leave their hanging balls for last I say, "Don't!"Cornerman said:
In an earlier thread a poster said that 8 ball strategy can be reduced to one thing: blocking pockets... Hmmm, how about I just shoot his blocking ball in with one of mine and play safe?
That statement alone shows me that 8 ball is much more complex than suspected by many your sharpshooters out there...
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Hi Fred.I think your quite right..but then again...I think he was going thru a pretty safe "pattern"..from the corner hanger to the side...and slight draw to ensure an angle...just that he ended up with too much angle.
Had he left Just sufficient angle..then he wouldnt have had to maneuver past the intervening ball and get nicer on the 8ball..
But this is the 1st time I see him on pool after watching him on snooker for like donkey years...he slowed down..and was very cautious...strokewise.he seems very comfortable...(But then again...if there's anyone i idolised while growing up it was just him & jimmy white)
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I thought Ronnie's pattern was fine. He just didn't stun the cueball enough to get down further for the easy stop shot on the last ball before the eight.
Archer's pattern on the other hand wasn't too good.
John
Archer's pattern on the other hand wasn't too good.
John
Thanks that was great to see, although it wasn't the best rack. I reckon if you could find an 8 ball player that didn't know Ronnie or Archer he would struggle to pick which player was the pool player. His break looked average but of course he didn't make a ball which doesn't really help much lol
Ronnie almost messed it up with his last shot but other than that he didn't do much wrong in the pattern he chose, from an 8 ball point of view anyway. The cue ball didn't move much, and there wasn't much wrong with the pattern he chose.
Craig <--- still amazed at some of the scalps he took in his first ever 8 ball comp!
Ronnie almost messed it up with his last shot but other than that he didn't do much wrong in the pattern he chose, from an 8 ball point of view anyway. The cue ball didn't move much, and there wasn't much wrong with the pattern he chose.
Craig <--- still amazed at some of the scalps he took in his first ever 8 ball comp!
That's what made his pattern no good, IMO. It's a subtle "mistake" that happens over and over again. In Ronnie's case, the 2-ball was in play. For someone like him, potting the balls isn't a problem. But, for amateurs, better to choose a pattern that doesn't make you come with a shot when it isn't necessary.onepocketchump said:
Archer made the same mistake against Manalo in Orlando. And unlike Ronnie, Archer didn't get out, and Manalo took him down from there.
Maybe you guys today don't think it was much of a bad play, but now maybe you'll look at the next couple of patterns since I'm highlighting it as if it's a total death shot and see if the same thing happens, i.e. "he just didn't stun the last ball enough," or "went slightly too far ." Those two always come up on that shot in the side pocket, making the out 10 times harder. It might not matter much for a pro, but it bit Johnny Archer, so it could bite anyone.
Fred