Wheel Chair Players Cue

[Tommyd]

I have a friend thats a wheelchair player. He wants to get a cue. I've noticed watching these player's on television, that their cue's except extensions. This would be very helpful to him. Are their any cue makers that make cues for wheelchair playes that would come with extensions? His budget is about $ 1000.00
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Tommyd

 

[Cue Crazy]

I have a friend thats a wheelchair player. He wants to get a cue. I've noticed watching these player's on television, that their cue's except extensions. This would be very helpful to him. Are their any cue makers that make cues for wheelchair playes that would come with extensions? His budget is about $ 1000.00
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Tommyd

Hey Tommy,

Yes I believe there are people who will do It. Shorty is the guy you might want to talk to. He has been researching this, and probably knows as well as anyone who is willing to take It on. I believe Mezz makes a cue that accepts their own extensions, but probably not long enough for your friend. I am probably going to experiment with building a cue that takes an extension later this year, but not in the too near future. your friend should not have a hard time at that price, If not too picky on inlays, and willing to deal with a more basic cue design. Wish I could be of more help. Greg

 

[Jack Flanagan]

'Action' cues makes a line called "Athena" that comes with it's own screw-in extension,,the overall length w/extension is 66.75 inches,,,buy the 17 oz version 'cause the extension makes it heavy..their literature calls them a cue for women but some of the decals are okay for guys,,,they retail for only $115,,,I see potential for modification/personalization...jack f

 

[Tommyd]

Hheel Chair Players Cue

Hey Tommy,

Yes I believe there are people who will do It. Shorty is the guy you might want to talk to. He has been researching this, and probably knows as well as anyone who is willing to take It on. I believe Mezz makes a cue that accepts their own extensions, but probably not long enough for your friend. I am probably going to experiment with building a cue that takes an extension later this year, but not in the too near future. your friend should not have a hard time at that price, If not too picky on inlays, and willing to deal with a more basic cue design. Wish I could be of more help. Greg

Thanks for the quick reply Greg.

I have been reading Shorty's post for some time, very interesting. I 'm interested in his comments about the Schon LTD cues. I was showing my friend a couple that are on the Cueaddicts website. I thought they might be of interest to him. Shorty's comment on forward balance might benifical to him. I play with a Richard Black Cue that I love, it has a balance like an old Rambow. I can see how maybe the forward balance may be bennificial for my friend. My friend Brandon has a computer, I'm going to recommend that he join this forum and pick shorty's brain. Shorty seems to be a gold mine of information. Shorty, I hope you don't mind? Thanks to all of you for your help.

Tommyd

 

[Cue Crazy]

Thanks for the quick reply Greg.

I have been reading Shorty's post for some time, very interesting. I 'm interested in his comments about the Schon LTD cues. I was showing my friend a couple that are on the Cueaddicts website. I thought they might be of interest to him. Shorty's comment on forward balance might benifical to him. I play with a Richard Black Cue that I love, it has a balance like an old Rambow. I can see how maybe the forward balance may be bennificial for my friend. My friend Brandon has a computer, I'm going to recommend that he join this forum and pick shorty's brain. Shorty seems to be a gold mine of information. Shorty, I hope you don't mind? Thanks to all of you for your help.

Tommyd

I sent Him a PM letting him know about your post here. Hopefully He will chime in, and help you guys out with what he knows. He's a pretty good guy, so I'm sure he will tell you what he knows of. I've been thinking, and the forward balance will probably be more forward, due to where they will be grabbing the extension toward the back, having too much might would be an issue if one. Also weight, if building the whole cue w/extension from scratch, steps could be taken to make the whole package work together better, but making just an extension is going to add weight no matter how one goes about it IMO. the question is how much to take out of an extension. coring could reduce weight, but I tend to think this would effect the hit, and possibly bring on a vibration in some cases. therefore if It were me, I believe I would rather deal with the weight. But then again the cues I have been doing recently, I am more focused on balance being right where I want it anyway, then trying to achieve a specific weight. Weight only makes so much of a difference for me ajusting to a cue, not much at all really, the balance, and how crisp the hit is, are where I can have issues ajusting it seems. Usually if there is something that I need to change afterwards, It would be in the ferrule material, or tip to match the cues hit best. I want a cue to be kind of crisp feeling and put spin on the ball with minimal effort, but not so much so, that It won't hold that fine straight line on the object ball, and send It flying all over the place. can be tricky to achieve just the right amount of balance between these characteristics as well. This is how I am though, and I am trying to think as if in these guys shoes, as to how any of this would be to them. Pushing from the back of the cue, has to change things alittle in these areas I would think. or if the cue tends to jerk even the slightest bit when they stroke through. If that were the case then I would think less action would be better instead. Alot to think about to get the best performance for them IMO. still in deep thought about this one. Greg

 

[Tommyd]

I sent Him a PM letting him know about your post here. Hopefully He will chime in, and help you guys out with what he knows. He's a pretty good guy, so I'm sure he will tell you what he knows of. I've been thinking, and the forward balance will probably be more forward, due to where they will be grabbing the extension toward the back, having too much might would be an issue if one. Also weight, if building the whole cue w/extension from scratch, steps could be taken to make the whole package work together better, but making just an extension is going to add weight no matter how one goes about it IMO. the question is how much to take out of an extension. coring could reduce weight, but I tend to think this would effect the hit, and possibly bring on a vibration in some cases. therefore if It were me, I believe I would rather deal with the weight. But then again the cues I have been doing recently, I am more focused on balance being right where I want it anyway, then trying to achieve a specific weight. Weight only makes so much of a difference for me ajusting to a cue, not much at all really, the balance, and how crisp the hit is, are where I can have issues ajusting it seems. Usually if there is something that I need to change afterwards, It would be in the ferrule material, or tip to match the cues hit best. I want a cue to be kind of crisp feeling and put spin on the ball with minimal effort, but not so much so, that It won't hold that fine straight line on the object ball, and send It flying all over the place. can be tricky to achieve just the right amount of balance between these characteristics as well. This is how I am though, and I am trying to think as if in these guys shoes, as to how any of this would be to them. Pushing from the back of the cue, has to change things alittle in these areas I would think. or if the cue tends to jerk even the slightest bit when they stroke through. If that were the case then I would think less action would be better instead. Alot to think about to get the best performance for them IMO. still in deep thought about this one. Greg

Thanks again Greg and Jack.

I'm not sure I'm posting these reply's correctly, it's my first time posting, etc.
Like shorty say's, he isn't going to use the extension alot, but it comes in handy when needed. I would think that being in a wheel chair and stretching to shoot on alot of shots, even when the extension is not needed, a more forward balanced or slightly more forward balanced cue might feel better for the shooter.

I work as an Investigator in Detroit Michigan. My priorties are Victims of Violent Crime, mostly GSW's. I don't get to shoot pool as much as I would like, my favorite game is Straight Pool, but nine ball is what they play in tournaments around here, so that's what I have been playing. For quite some time my passion has been researching cues. You guy's are fantastic, each different cue maker brings their art and most importantly function, to their art of cue making. I want to thank all of you for the pleasure that you all have given to me and all the other people who enjoy cues.

Thanks so much, Tommyd

 

[Jack Madden]

I have made extensions for several custom cues. I am sure some the custom cuemakers can build extensions to go with a custom cue designed for a wheel chair player. You just need to contact them and see what they can do.
John Madden
www.johnmaddencues.com

 

[Tommyd]

I have made extensions for several custom cues. I am sure some the custom cuemakers can build extensions to go with a custom cue designed for a wheel chair player. You just need to contact them and see what they can do.
John Madden
www.johnmaddencues.com

Thanks John,

I visited your web-site.......Beautiful Cues !

Tommyd

 

[Jack Madden]

Thanks John,

I visited your web-site.......Beautiful Cues !

Tommyd

Thank you. I will be having the website updated in April with all the new stuff I am doing. I am currently building 25-30 cues for the Hopkins Expo - all different. So when they are done, will take pics and update the site. Most of the pictures of cues on the site right now were built 2 years ago - and I have changed points and inlays.
John Madden
www.johnmaddencues.com

 

[Shorty]

Wheelchair players cue

My two bits...

Here is what I have found from research.

Number 1, extensions to the butt are the way to go...
Number 2, I dont think it really matters if there is a ping or vibration in my instance, I am more concerned about the weight. I was using a Cue Reach for the last few years with no problem at all...and it is just a hollow vacuum cleaner tube that slides down the cue, it is just awkward to get on and off for me.

I weigh in at 85 pounds and I can't lift much hardly at all. As a matter of fact I tried an experiment and I bought a lighter cue off of ebay, a 16.5 ouncer...and let me say...I can't wait to get my Schon back. ARGH! Just too dern light and flimsy. Hell I might be happy if my Schon ends up slightly heavier.

There are several cuemakers here that can make your friend a fine cue Tommyd, and I will send you names via PM here. I don't want to publish that info publicly as I may offend some people.

I prefer not to have one made from scratch myself because I love my Schon that much. I love the diameter, the weight, and above all, the hit with my Predator shaft. I swear I can make that ball sing if I need it.

All in all, it can be done on the budget you specified...my advice is to go with a cuemaker you have heard of, and one that is local as well...that way you can get a little more hands on exchange of information.

Shorty

 

[Tommyd]

My two bits...

Here is what I have found from research.

Number 1, extensions to the butt are the way to go...
Number 2, I dont think it really matters if there is a ping or vibration in my instance, I am more concerned about the weight. I was using a Cue Reach for the last few years with no problem at all...and it is just a hollow vacuum cleaner tube that slides down the cue, it is just awkward to get on and off for me.

I weigh in at 85 pounds and I can't lift much hardly at all. As a matter of fact I tried an experiment and I bought a lighter cue off of ebay, a 16.5 ouncer...and let me say...I can't wait to get my Schon back. ARGH! Just too dern light and flimsy. Hell I might be happy if my Schon ends up slightly heavier.

There are several cuemakers here that can make your friend a fine cue Tommyd, and I will send you names via PM here. I don't want to publish that info publicly as I may offend some people.

I prefer not to have one made from scratch myself because I love my Schon that much. I love the diameter, the weight, and above all, the hit with my Predator shaft. I swear I can make that ball sing if I need it.

All in all, it can be done on the budget you specified...my advice is to go with a cuemaker you have heard of, and one that is local as well...that way you can get a little more hands on exchange of information.

Shorty

Thanks Shorty,

My E-male address is Richerttommyd@aol.com.

Just a question, is your schon a forward balanced cue? I had a Peachauer cue that was forward balanced and I didn't like the feel. I grew up shooting with a Craig Peterson and two Rambows. I'm now using a Richard Black and the balance feels very much like a Rambow. The cue feels great in my hand.
Thanks so much for your help in this matter, your input and that of the rest of the guy's in this forum is invalueable.

Tommyd