Which games is jumping allowed in?

Derek

Derek

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Toss aside the debate of whether jump shots should be allowed or not. Which games is jumping allowed in?

The two obvious answers are 8-ball and 9-ball. It also appears it's okay in snooker based on a video clip I saw from another thread.

8-ball - yes
9-ball - yes
Snooker - yes
Straight pool - ?
One pocket - ?
Others? 3-cushion?

Of course, jumping is most likely foolish in some games. One pocket, for example. However, what if you only needed one more ball and you only needed to jump a half-ball to bank in a shot? Unlikely the need for something like this and a very low percentage shot that your opponent would probably want you to shoot, but is the choice there to allow it?
 
Derek said:
Toss aside the debate of whether jump shots should be allowed or not. Which games is jumping allowed in?

The two obvious answers are 8-ball and 9-ball. It also appears it's okay in snooker based on a video clip I saw from another thread.

8-ball - yes
9-ball - yes
Snooker - yes
Straight pool - ?
One pocket - ?
Others? 3-cushion?

Of course, jumping is most likely foolish in some games. One pocket, for example. However, what if you only needed one more ball and you only needed to jump a half-ball to bank in a shot? Unlikely the need for something like this and a very low percentage shot that your opponent would probably want you to shoot, but is the choice there to allow it?
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8-ball - yes
9-ball - yes
Snooker - no
Straight pool - Yes
One pocket - Yes but NO JUMP CUE ALLOWED
 
I've never seen a jump cue used in straight pool and I'm fairly certain about 90% of the straight pool players at my homeroom would unscrew at the sight of one.
 
snooker no....the clip that you saw i believe was the late Bill W miscueing. If the ball had jumped over the red it would have been a foul, but what happened was that he miscued, the cue ball jumped before the red then jumped again over the red ball which is a valid shot.
 
Cardinal_Syn said:
snooker no....the clip that you saw i believe was the late Bill W miscueing. If the ball had jumped over the red it would have been a foul, but what happened was that he miscued, the cue ball jumped before the red then jumped again over the red ball which is a valid shot.
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That's the clip. Okay, snooker is a "no".
 
Cardinal_Syn said:
snooker no....the clip that you saw i believe was the late Bill W miscueing. If the ball had jumped over the red it would have been a foul, but what happened was that he miscued, the cue ball jumped before the red then jumped again over the red ball which is a valid shot.
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That shot was legal and a great fluke. However snooker doesn't need to bring in a jump cue, the game itself is perfect the way it is. Don't try and fix something that ain't broken!
 
Rahl said:
the game itself is perfect the way it is.
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Maybe if they put 'numbers' on their balls, so everyone would not get bored with it, and you would not have pro Snooker players going to Pool for less money....... :thumbup:
 
Snapshot9 said:
Maybe if they put 'numbers' on their balls, so everyone would not get bored with it, and you would not have pro Snooker players going to Pool for less money....... :thumbup:
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Hey! Personally I find snooker very entertaining.... wait... let me rephrase that one... I find Ronnie O'Sullivan the few reasons I watch snooker. I mean check this clip out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wt2xPAf4fM

If you ever played snooker before, you understand the Godly ability this man possesses!
 
i never watched that clip before. hes probably the only reason i find snooker entertaining as well. it does get a buit boring watching other matches.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I've never seen a jump cue used in straight pool and I'm fairly certain about 90% of the straight pool players at my homeroom would unscrew at the sight of one.
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Seen it done in tournament play. Not between two players matching up, to this point in time. With a jump cue, no less:p
 
8-ball - yes
9-ball - yes
Snooker - no
Straight pool - yes, but it better be with your full cue lest you get assailed from some purists
One pocket - yes, full cue
Others? 3-cushion?
 
Derek said:
8-ball - yes
9-ball - yes
Snooker - no
Straight pool - yes, but it better be with your full cue lest you get assailed from some purists
One pocket - yes, full cue
Others? 3-cushion?
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I think if you are gambling in any game you must stipulate the rule on jumping before you start. As far as tournies they all have their own rules and you need to know them before you start.
 
Snooker is a great game and for me very entertaining to watch.Last time I watched snooker there were numbered balls(I know nine ball players like to have numbers on every ball so they no what to fire at next)

In 1 pocket it is generaly not allowed to use a jump cue.From my experience when people are playing 1P for $ it is understood that there is no jumping at all.The only time I have witnessed a jump shot in 1P is to pocket a hanger that was surounded by 10 blockers,it was a defencive shot.

Straight pool NO jumping.
 
What timing!

Jude Rosenstock said:
I've never seen a jump cue used in straight pool and I'm fairly certain about 90% of the straight pool players at my homeroom would unscrew at the sight of one.
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Jude, funny you should mention this right now. I've been playing 14.1 every Thursday in an in-house league at Comet for about 4 years. In all that time I've never seen a jump shot.

Last Thursday I executed a safety which put the 1 ball fairly near the corner pocket but cue ball was behind the rack. My opponent looked at it for about a minute and started to get out his jump cue and started to set up for the shot.

I had to stop him at this point because he was so intent on looking at how to set up the jump shot that he failed to notice that my safety sucked so bad that I had left him the 6 in the side! We both had a big laugh over that one!

It would have been fun to watch the jump, but I just couldn't let him do it.
 
Wow that Ronnie O' Sullivan can play some. Does he ever try his hand at other cue sports?
 
In snooker, jumping over an obstructing ball, at least intentional, is not allowed.

In all pool games, jumping over an obstacle is legal. Whether or not you can use a short jump cue, break cue or only your playing cue to achieve that goal is a tournament specific rule.

For the purists:

http://www.accu-stats.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=000323

Grab this tape and watch the Miz jump over a ball using a shortie in a game of 14.1 to get out of a jam in which he got all by himself. Would you unscrew on the great one too?

Also, I've seen Putnam jump a ball in a game of one pocket, IIRC against Corey at the 2004 DCC. I guess the shortie was allowed back then, not sure if it still is.
 
PROG8R said:
Wow that Ronnie O' Sullivan can play some. Does he ever try his hand at other cue sports?
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I think he tried the IPT 8-ball championship a couple of years back. He's also played on the Mosconi cup before against Earl Strickland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wGNfA_9EtQ

And speaking of "hands", the man has done centuries before with his LEFT hand before. (Ronnie shoots right handed).
 
Derek said:
Toss aside the debate of whether jump shots should be allowed or not. Which games is jumping allowed in?

The two obvious answers are 8-ball and 9-ball. It also appears it's okay in snooker based on a video clip I saw from another thread.

8-ball - yes
9-ball - yes
Snooker - yes
Straight pool - ?
One pocket - ?
Others? 3-cushion?

Of course, jumping is most likely foolish in some games. One pocket, for example. However, what if you only needed one more ball and you only needed to jump a half-ball to bank in a shot? Unlikely the need for something like this and a very low percentage shot that your opponent would probably want you to shoot, but is the choice there to allow it?
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For 3-cushion, jump cue will never help you because there is no use for it. So if you bring a jump cue, your opponent will probably just say "go ahead."
 
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