RedGuru said:
I don't have a vote
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Timberly said:
I think Jake is right, this crosses state lines as well as is international as well as involves a zillion legal issues, it may even be precedent setting if it goes full circle. Even the lawyers at this point are probably trying to figure out their options and how to proceed. This is going to be extremely complicated at best and when all is said and done, except for a few does not even involve that much money.
I would be leaning toward having the lawyers brokering the best deal they can and get out as quickly as I could if I was one of the players and call it a day. Any anger with KT or getting even has to be kept out of this, it is just about the money.
macguy said:
They probably will make a test question on this in a bar exam. My wife is an attorney, or was, and she has no clue. Where is venue? Who in the IPT get served. What state? It really is a nightmare. Keith is looking smarter and smarter every day. I can just see him kicking back reading this sheet and enjoying a cool one and laughing his head off.
She tells me to shut up and don't bother her. Not enough money for her to take on a case like this.
So that is why I get on here and release my pent up feelings. It is good to keep the old mind active.
Jake
macguy said:
at this point money shound not be at the top by itself . the players should have respect for themselves and the sport . i believe the sport of pool depends on this. the world will be watching and expect them not let them get away with it . and if they dont settle win or lose i think pool will have a little more honor and respect than before and who know what good may come out of it one person or more on the outside take notice of all this .
there may be people that might try to make it happen again . i mean they didnt have to put up so much money for us to make it work if it was going to work . they could have had 500,000 prize pool and worked their way up and who knows what would have happened . i think it can still be done if the right people take intrest.
ive said in the beginning that if this fails it will have a devatating affect on pool players great and small . i was going to give it my all and start playing seriously . but now if it goes back the way it was there is no reason to make life changes at least for me . so dont let pool suffer another blow players . you have dedicated many years and much time and practice to let this go unchecked . i think there is a lot more at steak than just money if you look a little closer . and i think it will benefit you all in the long run . you will be happier if you stick with it cause you deserve it . just another reason pool realy is the toughest sport on earth
just my opinion as a ex-pool player
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mark tadd said:at this point money shound not be at the top by itself . the players should have respect for themselves and the sport . i believe the sport of pool depends on this. the world will be watching and expect them not let them get away with it . and if they dont settle win or lose i think pool will have a little more honor and respect than before and who know what good may come out of it one person or more on the outside take notice of all this .
there may be people that might try to make it happen again . i mean they didnt have to put up so much money for us to make it work if it was going to work . they could have had 500,000 prize pool and worked their way up and who knows what would have happened . i think it can still be done if the right people take intrest.
ive said in the beginning that if this fails it will have a devatating affect on pool players great and small . i was going to give it my all and start playing seriously . but now if it goes back the way it was there is no reason to make life changes at least for me . so dont let pool suffer another blow players . you have dedicated many years and much time and practice to let this go unchecked . i think there is a lot more at steak than just money if you look a little closer . and i think it will benefit you all in the long run . you will be happier if you stick with it cause you deserve it . just another reason pool realy is the toughest sport on earth
just my opinion as a ex-pool player
That sounds all well and good but from any legal stand point, it's only about the money. This will, be as far as the players are concerned, just a civil matter and the money is the only thing involved. I hope you don't think lawyers are getting involved because they have some idealistic idea about the future of pool? You have to be realistic.
macguy said:
i understand lawyers are in it for the money . and at this point because of the size of the pot the players are also . but from reading alot of the posts they are only going to get 1/9 of their earnings without lawyers involved . so then kt shames all the players and the sport and and saves 2,650.000 roughly . and his rep is only tarnished a little because it will not get much attention from the public at large and he is free to go about his way to do it again with another project right ?
or they can file a big law suit and sue not only for money from reno but interest on damages for wasted time and the 100,000 promised to the top 100 players for 2007 . and who knows if things fall right (i know im getting out there a little on this one mabey) he may be ordered to play the 2008 and 09 year as he seemed to promise .
worst case senerio from what all the info ive gathered from you guys is the lawyer fees will eat most of it and they will still end up with around 1/9 anyway or more after the judge decides . but the difference is obviously a better outcome .
he doesnt save 2,650.000 roughly , his rep will be tarnish and made public in a huge way , his life is disrupted and he may think twice before doing it in the future , pool keeps its respect by not letting him get away with this , the law keeps a closer eye on him and so on ,the players are happy and can sleep well knowing it was a wise decision because justice will have been served . and mabye someone else takes notice of the pool world because of all the publicity involved over the years and we win even greater
makes sence to me .we should also think of others because there is a reason why thiefs , rapist , and killers are frownd upon and put in prison . so they dont continue to do those things to others . i feel if we let it slide as sure as the sun will rise in the morning it will happen again . the movie spiderman comes to mind by him letting the thief go and his grandfather whom he loved much died and a part of him also . letting this tragedy go unpunished doesnt do the world any favors . and you may be saving someones grandfather or your own from the same .
just different take on it mark tadd
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mark tadd said:just my opinion as a ex-pool player
This is the 2nd biggest crime that pool has had (the IPT being the 1st). Mark you are probably the best all around pool player in the modern era ....Reyes included. I have seen some of the best pool ever played while watching you play.
Southpaw
mark tadd said:
This is not directed just to you but any professional player. You can make things happen yourself for yourself. You can do exhibitions play match play. Put together small, like 16 selected player tournaments that you promote yourself. With DVD sales and possible live broadcast on the Internet, as well as live audiences, there may be more opportunities today then ever before to make money in the game.
I would not cast my fate to the wind waiting for the next promoter to come along and offer a bone. You make it happen if you want to make a living at the game. You don't have to quit the game, just become proactive about your career. Just like in real-estate, you may make money by sitting and waiting, or you can be sure you make money by creating value that was not there before. You have to create value, turn your talent into something that can work for you. I'm just brainstorming but it is something to think about.