How to Play This Pattern?

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pocket

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After watching some of Tor Lowry's 14 day challenge videos, I have begun practicing some half table patterns. I set up a pattern like this, and am having a hard time getting setup on the 2 ball (progressive play).

I like doing these, I mark ball position with the little hole stickers, and many times I can hammer away at the pattern I think works then a light comes on and I see an easier way to get it done.

Saw this table layout generator in the "Shane" thread (thanks for the link whomever posted it!), and thought I'd see if you guys had any input.

I tried many positions, the closest I could get was: start cue ball in grid 1-3 against the rail, and try to setup the two in the lower left pocket, leaving whitey for the three in the same pocket. Then four in top side pocket, and 8 in it's corner.

Can't get past the setup on the 2. Either too soft or too hard.

Is there an easier pattern I am completely missing here?

(1-3 being square 1 on the long rail by square three on the short rail)
 
Spimp13

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I'm confused...is it ball in hand and just shoot them in order or is this 8 ball or? This will slightly change things as I don't see the cue ball anywhere on the picture.
 
DAVE_M

DAVE_M

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Where's the cueball?

If you have ball in hand and can't figure out that pattern, you are thinking too hard.
 
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NitPicker

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Uh...with BIH, I would start with the cue ball just below (in the pic) and to the right of the 1, with enough angle to use follow...(maybe a little right) off the short rail for the cue ball to travel between the 8 and 2 for shape to put the 2 in the lower corner. The long rail would be a good target, imo, because anywhere close in that area gives shape on the 2 to get to the 3 fairly easily.

That's how'd I'd plan it at least. I'd probably miss the shot anyway. LOL
 
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pocket said:
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After watching some of Tor Lowry's 14 day challenge videos, I have begun practicing some half table patterns. I set up a pattern like this, and am having a hard time getting setup on the 2 ball (progressive play).

I like doing these, I mark ball position with the little hole stickers, and many times I can hammer away at the pattern I think works then a light comes on and I see an easier way to get it done.

Saw this table layout generator in the "Shane" thread (thanks for the link whomever posted it!), and thought I'd see if you guys had any input.

I tried many positions, the closest I could get was: start cue ball in grid 1-3 against the rail, and try to setup the two in the lower left pocket, leaving whitey for the three in the same pocket. Then four in top side pocket, and 8 in it's corner.

Can't get past the setup on the 2. Either too soft or too hard.

Is there an easier pattern I am completely missing here?

(1-3 being square 1 on the long rail by square three on the short rail)
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If you are using "follow" to get from the 1 to the 2 then you are doing it the hard way. "Draw" is the ticket here. It's much more predictable.

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pocket

pocket

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Guys, I know it's a dumb question, no need to remind me lol.

Yeah ball in hand. It's for practice, so progressive on the balls.
 
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Old Nine Baller said:
If you are using "follow" to get from the 1 to the 2 then you are doing it the hard way. "Draw" is the ticket here. It's much more predictable.
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Hmmm, exactly what I thought. Right in front of my face. Will practice this tonight ty.
 
Spimp13

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With ball in hand I see 2 "main" ways to get shape from the 1 to the 2.

The first way is to use a little bit of draw like the picture the above poster shown. The 2 things that will be important here are the speed you hit the draw, as well as the angle from where you set up the cue ball on the one. Practice with different angles and speeds.

The second way is to use follow and put the cue ball toward the bottom of the picture leaving a bit of an angle so the cue ball will roll forward in between the 8 and the two. The 2 things that will be important here are again speed, and the angle or tangent line.

Which is easier? That is a personal preference. I would practice these only using low for the draw shot, and high for the follow. Don't get fancy with low right, low left, top right, top left until you get comfortable doing so.

As for getting from the 2 to the 3, it really depends on where you end up on the shape on the 2 ball as you may have a shot to follow up for the 3 in the bottom right corner, or you may have a draw shot to get on the 3 in the same lower left pocket...I could even see a follow shot getting shape on the 3 in the same corner that you shot the 2, but this one would be the most rare of the 3 I just listed.

Good luck OP.
 
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NitPicker

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I'm still working out my stroke, so I tend to gravitate toward follow more than draw simply because it feels more controllable to me. But looking at the angle that ONB presented, even with my less than confident draw stroke...it does appear more natural and easier to control here than following for position on the 2.
 
DAVE_M

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pocket said:
Or I am trying to learn Dave. Ball in hand of course.
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Learning? That's fine. Learning the pattern is the easy part, that was my point. Executing the pattern is a whole different story. If you're having trouble executing, then you should keep practicing. You will have to force follow or draw either way you go.

I'm not being rude, I'm telling you what you need to do.
 
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Chops02

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i'd use the draw method myself. gives yourself a lot of area to fall on the 2 and still be able to get on the 3 in the same pocket. come short and you can float over to the far rail...get to high and you can come to the short rail and back out.
 
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bdorman

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center pocket said:
Draw is more predictable? Really....
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IMHO draw is more predictable at this short distance. Draw will also give you a wider margin of error in going long or coming up short.

I typically prefer to follow shots; I just feel like I can control follow better than draw. But over so short a distance, at these particular angles, I'd use draw.
 
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