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Predator Victory vs Kamui Black? - 03-27-2013, 07:48 AM

For those who've tried both... Don't knot which to get on my new Lucasi cue.


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03-27-2013, 08:02 AM

I know you didn't ask but I'd say you should consider G2 tips as well...


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03-27-2013, 09:03 AM

Kamuii Black!!! Second option Ultra Skin.

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03-27-2013, 09:10 AM

i'm a fan of these, myself. Price is hard to beat too.


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03-27-2013, 09:16 AM

Predator Victory tip delaminated on me. It was a huge disappointment. I will never use those tips again.


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03-27-2013, 10:11 AM

Heard bad things about the Predator but I absolutely love Kamui Black Soft and SuperSoft.

I tried Ultraskin and disliked it. I got miscues with that tip way more than with any other tip I have ever tried.
  
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03-27-2013, 10:33 AM

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Predator Victory tip delaminated on me. It was a huge disappointment. I will never use those tips again.
Oh wow, you mean some layers went off?


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03-27-2013, 10:34 AM

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Heard bad things about the Predator but I absolutely love Kamui Black Soft and SuperSoft.

I tried Ultraskin and disliked it. I got miscues with that tip way more than with any other tip I have ever tried.
What are the bad things about the Predator one you've heard?
Also I've tried Kamui Black S, M and H, so I won't be experimenting with that tip. As for Predator, I wanted to try it cause wel, it's from Predator XD.


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03-27-2013, 10:37 AM

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I tried Ultraskin and disliked it. I got miscues with that tip way more than with any other tip I have ever tried.
Really? I've been using Kamui Brown SS for over a year and just switched to an UltraSkin S. Have had more miscues with Kamui and the glazing issues. The Ultras have exceeded my expectations and for the price...wow! Maybe you got a bad tip? Shaped incorrectly?
  
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03-27-2013, 10:43 AM

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Oh wow, you mean some layers went off?
I used it for about a month. Next thing you know the 2nd layer from the very bottom of the tip was about 30% attached to the rest of the tip. Looked like some shoes falling apart at the sole. Just terrible.


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03-27-2013, 10:50 AM

Most companies simply change how much pressure they press a tip with and call it soft, medium or hard... I looked at the predators and they are no different... What that means is that you can buy whatever hardness you want but they are likely gonna be something else in a short time...


If you want out of the layered tip hamster wheel these should be on the market sooooon.... Different chemical processing for soft, medium and hard to fight changing over time....

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03-27-2013, 11:20 AM

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Really? I've been using Kamui Brown SS for over a year and just switched to an UltraSkin S. Have had more miscues with Kamui and the glazing issues. The Ultras have exceeded my expectations and for the price...wow! Maybe you got a bad tip? Shaped incorrectly?
Well I would have thought that as well but I knew some people who had the tip installed at the same time.

I finally changed the tip when I literally miscued on a soft center ball shot after just chalking the tip.

I have also found that I dislike the Kamui Black Medium so my dislike of the Ultraskin may be purely based on the hardness I had installed. I did have a soft though so I don't think it's that.

As for the Predator tip. I have heard from multiple sources they have severe delaminating issues.

They make mostly great products but the tips... not so much. The chalk on the other hand....
  
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03-27-2013, 11:59 AM

First choice: Black Heart V cLass
2nd choice: Moori soft - if you can get hold of one!
  
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03-27-2013, 12:12 PM

I used to play with old moori tips and liked them, then I have tried all kamui tips and ended up settling with kamui black hard strictly, only downside is that they glaze over sometimes, no biggie I just run over a bit of 150 sand paper and it's great again. Then i got a new Z2 shaft with a predator hard tip and it's the absolute best tip I've ever had, I'm so reluctant to change it, I love it. However, my experience with predator tips only consist of this one tip whereas I've gone through boxes of kamui black tips.

P.S: I did find someone who had one of the old moori tips and put it on my OB shaft, plays as good as my predator tip.


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03-27-2013, 12:19 PM

Victory was OK..but once I used a Kamui Black,all others just take a back seat..JMO
  
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