Well said, Spidey.
Beginning Player Working On CTE
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Well said, Spidey.
Its possible the guys legit.
Just ignore post that bother you.
An as far as I'm concerned with cte , yes, you do have something on me, nothing.
I agree that when one repeats the exact same process, the outcome should be the same. That is what makes CTE so great! Problem here is, as usual, some of you are just bent on trying to slam CTE. You make crap up, and then claim it as truth.
You see, (for the how many hundreth time now?) with the two different angles, you aren't doing every step exactly the same. Your visuals are exactly the same. But, all you guys fixate on is just the visuals. And, you totally leave out HOW one goes about getting those visuals. You do that because you don't use the system, and because you are so fixated on finding fault that you just make yourselves look dumb.
You never learn. No matter how many times we tell you the same thing, you keep coming back with the exact same nonsense.
As far as the OP, I stand by what I said to him. He claimed to be a user of the system, then later he slips up and admits that he has only tried it three times at a table.
Two questions:
How can you have a "good stroke", if you've pivoted away from your natural stroke? I practice a pendulum stroke with zero right or left elbow action, but the pivot moves the elbow closer to the body or further away from the natural path? Right? Or, maybe I have that wrong. If so, what is a pivot if it is not moving the cue back and forth path?
"through to the correct spot"... spot on what?
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For starters, you aren't pivoting away from your natural stroke line. This is explained in the directions. Second, do you realize that you are only pivoting 1/2 tip? Are you saying that you set down on every shot within that parameter without the pivot and no reference such as CTE has?
Do you understand in CTE where your tip is when you get down on the shot before the pivot, and why it is there? I would say not, hence your question. What you are pivoting to is center cb as the eyes see it.
There is nothing hard or magical about it at all. Once you have your visuals set, you now have a fixed cb. Which means, you have a line from your eyes right through the center of the cb.
I'm intrigued and envious of you guys, but can not get it from the DVD's or Stan's Youtube videos. How I dearly wish I could stop all the practice I've been doing on back cuts, banks, etc. Guess, being a dumb cluck, I'll have to see it demonstrated in person.
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A straight or good stroke isn't defined so much by the position of the elbow, but rather the grip hand and back wrist in relation to the bridge hand.
As long as that grip hand and back wrist are moving forward without any lateral movement, the tip should hit where it was aimed.
Regarding the pivot, however, you really shouldn't have much (if any) change in elbow location. Even with a manual pivot, the pivot is all wrist and so subtle, that your elbow really shouldn't move at all.
No one says you have to use an aiming system.
If you genuinely gave it a try, and still can't make it work, then just move on. They certainly aren't for everybody.
True enough, but it seems if someone finds a magical aiming system, that would take all the work away from learning the hard shots in the game.
Who was Hal Houle? How was he discovered? Was he a near pro player like Stan? I'm hoping someone will shed some light on him.
Glad you asked:
Hal Houle could play 3 cushion billiards on a 2 cushion table.
Hal Houle could aim center ball and pocket it in all 6 pockets... at the same time.
OK, I couldn't help myself. No disrespect to Robin Dryer... :thumbup:
For starters, a magical aiming system doesn't exist, and no user of one has ever made such a claim.
I don't mean to get philosophical, but if you really want to improve, then there's one thing you need to learn.
Aiming system or no aiming system, there is no such thing as a hard shot. Shots are either made or missed, and that is entirely relevant to the shooter's skill level.
Very funny! Your first attempt to match the comedians on AZB? I've got to print out all the things that "Dickdive" guy wrote so I can turn it against him the second he posts about something he thinks he wants to share. I've learned my lesson on here... if you've got something good, keep it to yourself. The clowns are lurking like buzzard hawks.
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You have proven to be unqualified to speak about anything other than your own CTE experience. Your Mosconi "fractional aiming" bit was complete bogus, as Mosconi was an advocate of contact point aiming, not fractions. And if you expect players to believe that you latched onto CTE quick and simple within a week after watching a few videos, the same videos that many others have struggled with for months and years, well.... I'd have to say that's bogus also, especially when so many proficient CTE users right here in this forum have stated that it takes time to get it all working and tuned up. You act like 15, 30, 45, and 60 are all you need, but you'd be missing a lot of shots without fine tuning those angles thick or thin as needed. I've had the 1st CTE DVD and watched all the youtube clips multiple times. I'm not as ignorant on the subject as you are with Poolology, yet you still pretend to know it all.
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One can look at the ob last. But, only after setting up properly on the cb. In CTE, the cb gets you to your final shot line. As long as you stay on that line, you can look at the ceiling if you want to.
The big problem with beginners to the system, is that many just don't know how to follow directions to a "T". They think they know how to aim, and they are looking for some magic aiming system. Instead of just following the directions given, which it's obvious that not a single one of the naysayers have done, they always add in other elements that don't belong, or just flat out skip steps.
If one really desires to learn CTE, they first have to be willing of what they think they know about aiming, and just follow the steps given and do the drills given. Perform and observe. Very soon it will all "click" once they learn to do that really rather simple thing.
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Actually, in the video exhibition match with Minnesota Fats playing 9 ball, 8 ball, and straight pool, Mosconi did in fact state, on film, that he used fractional aiming.