pickle in a pickle

Thecoats

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You seem to know the victim, Kashola, Is he a gambler/poolplayer?
A backer/stakehorse? Is he a drug dealer?
Where does all the cash he supposedly carries come from.

It is pretty obvious by his name (kashola) he was born into money:eek::eek::eek::grin::grin:
 

Thecoats

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i can tell you for a fact it is the same bobby pickle the pool player.i have known booby for 30 years and like him and respect his game but i do not trust him for one minute.i will say this drugs will make you do stupid things and the guy that was robbed has and carries more cash in his pocket than anyone i know and theres the reason they drove 25 miles to make a score but really bothers me is that people are wishing him well for this home invasion and kidnapping.whats wrong with this picture?if it was a stranger and you guys didnt know him and this happened you would say i hope they get as much time as possible.if this happened to you or yourfamily would you still say oh bobby iam sorry and i hope things work out? no you wouldnt!!! i know bad things happen to good people but when problems and mistakes keep happening and popping up when do you say its the persons fault? like i said before i like bobby and he is good for action and pool but with him being in jail off and on the last few years maybe a stretch in the pen will wake him up. and your right it isnt hard to figure out who bonded him ok. the same person as usual.iam sorry that this actually happened but think of the family that this was done to.if you have ever been robbed at gun point you know what i mean

I agree as well, if they are found guilty, you cannot put them in prison long enough in my opinion. I just amazes me that people think they have the right to steal from others, that is just wrong period.

-don
 

axle

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sorry to confirm that it is the pickle

my sources tell me it is the same bobby pickle that we all know i dont know what reason he had to do what he did it is a shame what a great guy to be around him you would know what i mean he was fun to watch he could take over the room with his antics ,his bar table game was his best .sorry to see him go away never been nothing but a gentleman to me,good luck bobby maybe you can get a break somehow later old freind tim
 

geno

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This is the way it is supposed to be. God bless the South !

--- Homeowner shoots and kills intruder ---
--- Police have not filed any charges in the shooting. ---

from: http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/homeowner-shoots-and-kills-606130.html?cxtype=ynews_rss

I never had any problems with Bobby. He was always good for action, light hearted and fun to be around.

HOWEVER, If anyone, even Bobby or anyone else I know or don't know invaded my house I would expect the scenario to be more like the one above.
 

MidLifeCrisis

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someone asked where the victim got his money from and my question is why does it really matter.

I originally thought why in world would someone ask this question myself(It's NOBODY'S business)...and is pointless if trying to justify his actions...Waving a gun around will get you killed, which to my surprise didn't happen... I'd guess 90 percent of the population of residents in Beech Grove have firearms...probably more than just a few(It's a Southern and South West thing)...
Then I got to thinking maybe he was wondering why they picked this particular individual...maybe he owed on a debt or something?, but using armed force goes far beyond the limits of rational behavior... Lock him up, he's just another thug...
 
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Fatboy

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my sources tell me it is the same bobby pickle that we all know i dont know what reason he had to do what he did it is a shame what a great guy to be around him you would know what i mean he was fun to watch he could take over the room with his antics ,his bar table game was his best .sorry to see him go away never been nothing but a gentleman to me,good luck bobby maybe you can get a break somehow later old freind tim


i wonder how many people in America are named Bobby Pickle? there cant be more than 5 topps.
 

Fatboy

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There are lots of reasons why a man might be arrested for breaking into someone else's house other than what is in the police report. I'm not saying that is the case but things like this happen all over America, every single day and sometimes things aren't what they seem to be.

All of the facts are not known at this time and there may be more to this story. Imagine what you would do if a person was trying to sell your child drugs. This is just one of many possibilities. I'm sure that could be a stretch but I'm willing to wait to see how all of this shakes out.

Bobby has not had his day in court and you never know about these things. I prefer to just let justice handle this case and I'll just wait until I hear all of the facts before "convicting" or passing judgment on what he has done, may have done or will do in the future.



I agree there are alot of reasons a man might break into another mans house-however most of them are not legal. And when Bobby does get his day in court, his past record will be considered. Just because you did your time for your prior offences dosent make them go away, once a felon awalys a felon. First time offenders sometimes get a pass-not recivisisits with legenthy records.

Drugs make good people do bad things, Pickle is in that mix and its damn near impossible to get out of.
 

JDB

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I agree there are alot of reasons a man might break into another mans house-however most of them are not legal. And when Bobby does get his day in court, his past record will be considered. Just because you did your time for your prior offences dosent make them go away, once a felon awalys a felon. First time offenders sometimes get a pass-not recivisisits with legenthy records.

Drugs make good people do bad things, Pickle is in that mix and its damn near impossible to get out of.

It is easy to tell you come from a credit card/collections background with the word recidivism...lol.

As you know that is a very common term for frequency in delinquency.

I know that it can be used for other things and you used it correctly (although spelled incorrectly), but given your background I know it is used commonly.
 

lights_out

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After 21 yrs of being on the front lines of this War on Drugs can you explain why it is easier for a juvinile to get a bag of marijuana or crack rocks than it is for them to get alcohol? Billions spent and thousands incarcerated hasn't put a dent in the black market.


Your first question is easy. Drug dealers don't check id's when someone comes to their "counter." As long as the money is green they're gonna make the handoff. On top of that, most kids that are in possession of an amount for their personal use don't deal directly with the dealers. They get small amounts from a friend or classmate, someone they know. These are the ones doing street level deals with the supplier to distribute amongst the people they know. This is the very bottom of the food chain.

An honest businessman making a living doing retail sales is going to protect himself from liability by trying his best to do the right thing, in this case, keeping alcohol out of the hands of those not allowed to be in possession of it. He risks civil and criminal punishment if he is not diligent in doing what the law mandates.

Would you agree that most gangs derive their income from and violently protect their drug distribution territories?

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. If they didn't, they would soon be labeled as punks and would have their territory taken over by rival groups. Coincidently, going back to the "laid back weed smokers" argument, the drug of choice among the top level gangbangers and enforcers is cannabis. They have access to an endless supply of hardcore drugs, but see it as bad form to be addicted to their own product, so they get their high from weed. Yet I have never heard of anyone getting a pass from a beatdown or a driveby because the enforcer was too stoned to give it. I would venture to say that many passed around the blunt while on their way to "do business."
 

TATE

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Sung to the tune of "Johnny Yuma Was A Rebel"


Bobby Pickle, a cool cucumber, roamed through the west
where the only law, was squirt and draw
he played with the best.

Yeah Bobby Pickle, got jarred, now he’s canned with the rest.

Oh Bobby Pickle, got jarred, now he’s canned with the rest.

Fightin mad, this pickled lad, “relished” Cash-ola.
Cashola was a sitting, A minding his own,
when a pickle, and two wieners, crashed into his home.
The took his gun and his Tylenol, they needed it bad.
They wanted more drugs,
he coughed up the Cialis he had.


“A white Taurus, came before us", He told the po-lice
and then they went thataway, as he pointed due East.

The police just nooded, for on the road out of town.
The white Taurus was a sitting, there broken down.
Three men were waving at them, to give them a lift.
One pickle, two wieners, the de-scription fit.

Yeah the Pickle, got jarred,
Now he’s canned with the rest.

Yeah Bobby Pickle, got jarred,
Now he’s canned with the rest.
 
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the420trooper

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I just finished reading this whole thread, and if I responded to individual posts, I would be here all night.

There are a few things I felt like sharing, though:

In regards to the argument about possible detrimental effects of legalizing drugs, I recommend that those concerned read this article from Time magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html



I'm a pretty free thinker, and I'm all about letting people do their own thing, but when you break into someone's home and point a gun at them, when they've (presumably) done nothing to harm you, you no longer deserve to be part of society.

The sense of entitlement that lets some people think that it's OK for them to take what someone else earned is a flaw in their reasoning capabilities, and it's difficult, if not impossible to cure.

Bobby Pickle may be a great pool player and a friend to many, but if he had pulled that stunt at my house, I would have shot him in the head.
 

Kickin' Chicken

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I just finished reading this whole thread, and if I responded to individual posts, I would be here all night.

There are a few things I felt like sharing, though:

In regards to the argument about possible detrimental effects of legalizing drugs, I recommend that those concerned read this article from Time magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html



I'm a pretty free thinker, and I'm all about letting people do their own thing, but when you break into someone's home and point a gun at them, when they've (presumably) done nothing to harm you, you no longer deserve to be part of society.

The sense of entitlement that lets some people think that it's OK for them to take what someone else earned is a flaw in their reasoning capabilities, and it's difficult, if not impossible to cure.

Bobby Pickle may be a great pool player and a friend to many, but if he had pulled that stunt at my house, I would have shot him in the head.

tap..tap..tap...

and that's the name of that tune.

thanks Trooper.

Best,
Brian kc
 

DelaWho???

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Your first question is easy. Drug dealers don't check id's when someone comes to their "counter." As long as the money is green they're gonna make the handoff. On top of that, most kids that are in possession of an amount for their personal use don't deal directly with the dealers. They get small amounts from a friend or classmate, someone they know. These are the ones doing street level deals with the supplier to distribute amongst the people they know. This is the very bottom of the food chain.

An honest businessman making a living doing retail sales is going to protect himself from liability by trying his best to do the right thing, in this case, keeping alcohol out of the hands of those not allowed to be in possession of it. He risks civil and criminal punishment if he is not diligent in doing what the law mandates.



Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. If they didn't, they would soon be labeled as punks and would have their territory taken over by rival groups. Coincidently, going back to the "laid back weed smokers" argument, the drug of choice among the top level gangbangers and enforcers is cannabis. They have access to an endless supply of hardcore drugs, but see it as bad form to be addicted to their own product, so they get their high from weed. Yet I have never heard of anyone getting a pass from a beatdown or a driveby because the enforcer was too stoned to give it. I would venture to say that many passed around the blunt while on their way to "do business."

This is the reason that illegal drugs are easier to get as a minor than regulated drugs. The store owner want to remain in business and will follow the requirements of the liquor laws to keep himself in good standing. The same principle and penalty applies to those who sell tobacco pruducts too.

Why wouldn't the same be true if the shop owner was selling cocaine or any other currently banned drug if they were legal products?

I am not saying that making a product legal will keep it out of the hands of a minor, but it puts that responsibility where it belongs, on the parents.
Minors who consume alcohol aren't getting moonshine (in most cases) they are getting a legally purchased product from an adult (usually a family member) who purchased it for them. They aren't getting it from a street corner dealer who is going to use that money to further a gang banging career. We would have an easier time with youth drug use if the whole mess were out in the light away from the black market, which is the direct cause of violence.

Would you still be responding to calls involving drugs? Absolutely, nothing different than we are doing right now. The difference would come on the street corner where rival gangs won't have the lucrative drug trade to protect anymore.I think you would agree that most gang violence involves defending drug distribution and the associated mounds of cash that go with it. Make the product legal and a majority of that money would dry up over night.

You'll never hear me play the peaceful stoner card. Drugs don't change people they allow the persons real base nature to emerge by suppressing inhibition. A violent asshole is going to be a violent stoned asshole. We are in complete agreement here. Your comment about gang members and enforcers not using the hard drugs they sell just reenforces my point that it is all about the money. Dry up the source of money and the gang problem is diminished. Sadly your way of doing it, trying to stop the supply and going after user and dealers as criminals, hasn't reduced the frequency of use or availability of supply. The insane profit margin produced by making something illegal (and therefore higher risk to deal with) has had the opposite of the desired effect, just as it did during prohibition.

Isn't it time to try something different? What we are doing now obviously isn't working. Nixon declared war on drugs 40+ yrs ago. How much time and money must be pissed away before we stop doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result?

:cool:
 

DelaWho???

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Your first question is easy. Drug dealers don't check id's when someone comes to their "counter." As long as the money is green they're gonna make the handoff. On top of that, most kids that are in possession of an amount for their personal use don't deal directly with the dealers. They get small amounts from a friend or classmate, someone they know. These are the ones doing street level deals with the supplier to distribute amongst the people they know. This is the very bottom of the food chain.

An honest businessman making a living doing retail sales is going to protect himself from liability by trying his best to do the right thing, in this case, keeping alcohol out of the hands of those not allowed to be in possession of it. He risks civil and criminal punishment if he is not diligent in doing what the law mandates.



Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. If they didn't, they would soon be labeled as punks and would have their territory taken over by rival groups. Coincidently, going back to the "laid back weed smokers" argument, the drug of choice among the top level gangbangers and enforcers is cannabis. They have access to an endless supply of hardcore drugs, but see it as bad form to be addicted to their own product, so they get their high from weed. Yet I have never heard of anyone getting a pass from a beatdown or a driveby because the enforcer was too stoned to give it. I would venture to say that many passed around the blunt while on their way to "do business."

Going to have to disagree with this statement. Most "dealers" I have ever met (yes Ivé met more than a few) were guys who were getting a quantity of drugs and selling off what they need to get ther money back out of it and have a bit of free stash. A quarter pound of pot sold off to drug doing "friends" leaves enough left over for the guy who took the risk to smoke for free. The shady pusher is not the norm. They don't need to push, people seek them out, just like you go to a bar or liquor store when you want a drink. The difference is that there is quality control, regulation and over sight that protects you from being poisoned by what you purchased. Just look at the number of alcohol poisoning deaths which occurred during prohibition and the number of deaths during the same time period after prohibition ended. You'll find that more people died from alcohol poisoning during prohibition than at any comparable time period post prohibition.

:cool:
 

cardiac kid

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Bobby Pickle may be a great pool player and a friend to many, but if he had pulled that stunt at my house, I would have shot him in the head.

My guess is if had happened in Florida, Texas or Arizona, Bobby would have been shot and killed. Oh the joys of the "Castle" laws. Sometimes I wish we had one in New York! Too much paperwork to fill out. And YOU are the bad guy regardless of what the intruder did or tried to do.

Lyn
 

elvicash

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First of all my thoughts go out to the victims, I hope the Kashola household has recovered.

Bobby is a thug if he did this whether he played a big role or a small roll. I wish we would only talk about Bobby the Thug and not mention Bobby the p*** P*****. I would agree that people have the right right to defend there houses and families, he is lucky he and the other two did not get shot. In light of the fact is he is not long out of the pen he will probably be in for a long stretch. If he did this he is should be in prison for a long while and as to innocent till found guilty what I am saying is IF he did it he should be in jail period.


As to legalization I agree with JAM legalize the drugs, tax the drugs. Put people in jail/prson for crimes not possesion. I disagree on the household losing all public services I suggest rather that non users are victims of the users and have committed no wrong themselves.

What should happen is the government should be stronger on punishing crimes, like in this Kashola family crime, if someone wants to plea bargain they should take the top count and drop the rest not take the bottom count. I think we have alot of crime in this country the home of the free with over 1% in the pen the highest imprisonment rate in the world.
 
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