It's modeled after the Ryder Cup, which pits Merica vs Europe.
Were Europeans wanting to change the format when we had a streak where we won 9 out of 10? These things happen, don't change the format just because we're on a bit of a slide.
Shane and Bergman maintain top two Mosconi Cup spots
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It's modeled after the Ryder Cup, which pits Merica vs Europe.
Were Europeans wanting to change the format when we had a streak where we won 9 out of 10? These things happen, don't change the format just because we're on a bit of a slide.
Rep to you. I can definitely get behind this team a lot more than other names that might get thrown out into the mix. It's a shame Oscar isn't more highly regarded, but that's another discussion for another part of this forum. Frost has exhibited some extraordinary leadership ability while he was playing BB. I think he'd be a great MC coach in the future. Strickland might be abrasive and difficult to deal with, but there's no denying his passion for the game, will to win, and high expectations both for himself and those around him. Plus he's still able to keep up with players 20 years younger than him.
Wrong, the top 3 in the rankings are in the team, those are the automatic qualifying spots.
The other two are wildcards...
http://www.matchroompool.com/moscon...3m2loduuj/title/usa-qualifying-event-schedule
Valid observation, ya gotta crawl before you walk sometimes in life:
No knowing the stats, but I'm sure that the US and Europe both dominated each other at one time or another. It's a work in progress, our players are VERY fortunate to have SOMETHING. Toughest thing with American players, it's similar to herding cats, which is ''just the way it is for NOW''. Gentrification tho is before us.
I'm just saying Mike plays jam up, sometimes you have to get knocked down so you can get back up. Yes it's true his MC record isn't great but how about SVB what is his Mosconi Cup record...the guy went like 1-6 last year or something real close to that and everyone gives him this magic free pass.
Go by the eye test and you may not find a better playing American right now than Dechaine, he's still getting better too. There isn't a long list of people chasing him around to play some either. He did bad and sat out, let's get behind getting him another shot at righting the ship. I was watching some of the tourney at SBE and the bleachers filled up when his table got announced each time, he's exciting to watch and not a robot.
If we are just trying new things than I could get behind an all new team as well but I get nauseous hearing about other guys who have dogged it but deserve more chances but that seems to not apply to Dechaine, it's just not right. I just feel like he's more seasoned now. Throw him back in the water, I think he swims this time.
Mark Wilson - who is a friend of mine - came out when Oscar was recently playing Bergman in St Louis. I point blank said to Mark -- if Oscar goes to all of these champion home towns and beats them, does he then make the Mosconi Cup? Cause his recent record is convincingly beating Bartram, one of the top gamblers in the country and then beating Bergman over the course of two days playing 10 ball to a combined score of 42- 31.
My pick for the team would be
SVB
DeChaine
Frost
Dominguez
Bergman or Hall
Hall was by far the best player last year and seemed the most comfortable and confident in the atmosphere. The timing of Matchroom announces I feel has hurt Hall this year in participating in the point events. I hope he makes a big push in the last of the events.
If Frost slips in the remaining events and Archer continues to play good, I would replace Frost with Archer.
This team would have the best chance, most leadership, most active players in the tournament world and most heart.
And.. what did Mark say? Don't leave us hanging.
It seemed to me that Oscar burned some bridges last year after he was cut. But I hope and think Mark wouldn't hold a grudge.
I'm sure that leading in MC points is not a free pass, I may be missing something though?...
Pretty sure it is. Can't remember if the top 2 or 3 make the team and captain picks 2? I could be wrong though.
I can't see where Oscar burned any bridges and if he did then there's something wrong with that scenario
Dechaine's Mosconi Cup record for his two appearances:
In terms of matches played: 1-3 singles, 1-4 doubles, 1-1 teams, 3-8 total (winning percentage 27%)
In terms of contribution to the overall Cup scores (1/2 pt. in a doubles match, 1/5 point in a teams match): 1.7 - 5.2 (winning percentage 25%).
But that was 2011 and 2012. Mike is simply better now than he was then. I trust he will have a chance to show that in future Cups.
How would that be a "free" pass, sounds more like an "earned" pass to me.
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Rest assured, Ken, I'm not joking here. I'll keep you in mind should I choose to abandon my already purchased seats.
Nothing was burned. I'll leave it at that.
How would that be a "free" pass, sounds more like an "earned" pass to me.
When I say free pass I mean for his terrible record in the Mosconi Cup, the same thing people would like to hold against others who are trying to make it back in the ring. If you're gonna break down Dechaine than break down them all...not a knock, it's a tough competition and all of the guys that have played are more than capable of bouncing back.
I do absolutely agree that all could be broken down, but Mike DeChaine has nobody to blame but himself (IMO) by not entering all the qualifiers that have been available. I do agree that he would be an awesome addition to the squad, still have to earn your spot if you want it guaranteed. He most liekly will be a captains pick though.
they further qualifued it then...
I see that they further qualified it. the original press release did not specify that. I'm glad they did.
Jaden
I see that they further qualified it. the original press release did not specify that. I'm glad they did.
Jaden
Shane has played in the Mosconi Cup 8 times (2007 - 2014).
The aggregate match record for the USA in those 8 years is 55 wins and 84 losses.
Counting half a point for a win or a loss in a doubles match and one-fifth of a point in a teams match, Shane's contribution to that 55-84 record is 14.1 wins and 18.0 losses.
So, for those 8 years, we have the following match-winning percentages:
• Team USA -- 55 - 84 = 40%
• Shane -- 14.1 - 18.0 = 44%
• Team USA excluding Shane -- 40.9 - 66.0 = 38%
In other words, relative to his teammates, Shane hasn't been so terrible.
More accurate would be that Shane has been awful, but his teammates have been just slightly worse.