Jump Break Question

Rak9up

Rak9up

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If I was trying to design a new jump break for a custom maker to build.
Few questions

I know the arguments for break sticks weight VS speed on light or heavy break sticks. For me its getting the heaviest cue that "you" can still control the cueball. This is different weight for different people.

With that being said the other side of the coin there are alot of very light jump sticks on the market.

So it would seem to combine these 2 uses into 1 you could make a heavy handle like ebony or cocobola and use a light "solid" wood in the forearm.

I would also assume a steel or firm joint is needed since a Jumping and breaking demand High impact needs.

Capped or uncapped ferrull I have no idea... I would guess capped would jump better (unless one of you have designed a cavity backed tip/ferrull I haven't heard of yet)

Any thoughts or Ideas

If you all haven't left for Valley Forge yet?
 
Rak9up said:
If I was trying to design a new jump break for a custom maker to build.
Few questions

I know the arguments for break sticks weight VS speed on light or heavy break sticks. For me its getting the heaviest cue that "you" can still control the cueball. This is different weight for different people.

With that being said the other side of the coin there are alot of very light jump sticks on the market.

So it would seem to combine these 2 uses into 1 you could make a heavy handle like ebony or cocobola and use a light "solid" wood in the forearm.

I would also assume a steel or firm joint is needed since a Jumping and breaking demand High impact needs.

Capped or uncapped ferrull I have no idea... I would guess capped would jump better (unless one of you have designed a cavity backed tip/ferrull I haven't heard of yet)

Any thoughts or Ideas

If you all haven't left for Valley Forge yet?
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I'll go with capped ferrule. Firm joint of course, then again all cues should should have a firm joint. Weights really subjective, huge can of worms there buddy.

Good luck in your build!:thumbup:
 
thanks for the reply

Wasn't trying to open any cans of worms.

Just hoping for some ideas or insight on some Jump break stick improvements or ideas to be incorperated.

Not asking for trade secrets-I know there are patents out there (right Mr. G)

For example... I have a friend with a jump cue that has some sort of pad between the tip and the ferrull he says its acts like a spring

I have acess to some pretty unique materials

I've been considering predators research on deflection... the first 6 inches is crucial after that the ball is gone...the same should apply in jumping/breaking... so I'm concentrating on that area.

As for the heavy break cue for me its simple (F=MA) get as much M without losing A and still have control

Jump stick light for control..... plus to much M Ball jumps to much breaks lights and hits people in head etc.

So lets say I like a 20 oz break stick and I have a newly designed shaft and I use a solid light wood like tulip wood for the forearm its simple I add those 2 weights and I know how heavy to make the handle to get a 20 oz cue.
 
without trying to jump into your post, can you help me understand what features make the difference between a jump/break/standard cue?
 
ROOK E said:
without trying to jump into your post, can you help me understand what features make the difference between a jump/break/standard cue?
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Standard=usually designed for maximum control...for example tips are selected per shooting stlye/feel..shafts modified lighter near the tip to lower deflection and usually a middle of the road weight 18 to 19 ozs

Break=sturdy high impact design...usually very hard tip because of mushrooming many cues are ofter heavier (more mass = more impact)
not as much concern for deflection since most people usually use the middle of the cueball for breaking

Jump=Much lighter/shorter cue designed for impact and control tip selection semi hard, to hard for power and control

but these are my opinions and not the NFL's so reuse without written consent is strictly forbidden
 
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IMHO, I think your overall results would be better suited with a break cue and a jump cue. They are 2 different cues executing 2 different shots.

J/B's are a neat device, have one myself, and I know many players are succesful in making the one cue do both tasks. However I still don't want to be in a situation where I'm breaking or jumping and wish, right before a shot, my break cue was lighter or heavier or my jump cue was a little lighter.

Just my .02 :thumbup:

Good luck on your search.
 
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