What skill level are you actively working towards?

[12310bch]

Huh?

those definitions are very wide....to me there is a huge difference from a B to A...

im not a 9ball player....but running oout 5 balls in rotation with ball in hand is alot easier than running out 7...

i played around last night to try and rank myself according to the scale/definitions posted.

heres what i found.

i get out from the 5 ball 80 percent of the time with ball in hand. at one point i ran 5 balls 9 times in a row.

things changed pretty drastically tryng to run from the 3 ball......i found myself lucky to get out 2 out of 3 times (this is with no combos working myway around the table) but able to do so.
those extra balls get you in trouble early in the rack...i was on a 8 footer and rattled balls a few times trying to force my position.

anyway getting out from the 5 is very much way easier than from the 3.
it was fun practicing some 9 for a change. i dont much like the game competition wise.

i guess im a A- atleast i was yesterday....my saftey play is as good as anybodys thou so that might make me a strong/mid pack A

how do you rate 8 ball players??? what would the scale look like....to me 8 ball takes more pool knowledge...and isnt so much about just shot making....

I 'm not knocking your speed but it is beyond my belief that a person who has put the hours through years of work into that which is necessary to reach an "A" level could make the statement that 9- ball is ,"about just shot making."

 

[RD3P]

sure it is.

9 ball is the game most oriented around shotmaking....i dont see how you can deny that

on a 7 footer all you have to do is leave yourself a shot....
hit em hard and make a slop shot
Cheeze the 9 when oportunity comes at anytime...
make that one shot
and the game is won....
see what i mean.....

hell even the break in 9 ball is too the point where its considered a shot on a 7footer. ive seen guys that when they get rolling can consistantly make the 9 in. doesnt happen all the time but its definately not luck when its going in the same pocket 3 or 4 times out of 10.(when they get in that groove, not saying all the time they can do this, but i believe its not luck when it happens...they are tuned in to their break, really good)

you see the game is more about shotmaking than anyother common game.
its a good game....maybee my perspective is different...because 9 ball is far from my favorite game

 

[blah blah]

9 ball is the game most oriented around shotmaking....i dont see how you can deny that

on a 7 footer all you have to do is leave yourself a shot....
hit em hard and make a slop shot
Cheeze the 9 when oportunity comes at anytime...
make that one shot
and the game is won....
see what i mean.....

hell even the break in 9 ball is too the point where its considered a shot on a 7footer. ive seen guys that when they get rolling can consistantly make the 9 in. doesnt happen all the time but its definately not luck when its going in the same pocket 3 or 4 times out of 10.(when they get in that groove, not saying all the time they can do this, but i believe its not luck when it happens...they are tuned in to their break, really good)

you see the game is more about shotmaking than anyother common game.
its a good game....maybee my perspective is different...because 9 ball is far from my favorite game

I just had to give you a greenie for the laugh.

In case you're dead- set serious, 9ball is about making the ball and getting shape. The getting shape part is equally important to making the ball. Once you're playing it a lot, controlling the cb becomes all- important. And flying the nine becomes only a nice available option that needs some skill and strategy, like the 3foul rule, but it's not something you would consider your general, primary method of winning.

That said, I admit I honestly don't know a lot about 7 footers at all. I was going to say you should check the rack if your friend is consistently breaking in the nine, but maybe the tiny table helps?

 

[sfleinen]

Last edited by blah blah; Today at 02:37 PM. Reason: still thinking....

Looks like a certain someone didn't like what another someone said about her favorite game, and is stewing over it! <as I duck the flying object hurled at me head> :duck:



j/k,
-Sean

 

[NewStroke]

I am hoping that I can get to the point where I can run one ball in a row consistently. :grin:

Actually, I am working on my final run outs. I start off very good, begin to get out of line and just can't seem to get back in line. I have been improving as my run outs are increasing, but I am still not where I want to be.

 

[RD3P]

you dont have to get cute on shape

just leave your self a open shot in 9 ball....no need to get cute on shape.
just leave yourselve a makeable shot....and then make the shot...9 ball is simple if you dont overcomplicate it. i know cueball controll is 50 percent of the shot i didnt say it wasnt. 9ball game is less about finess and cue controll and more about shot making than anyother IMO...if you think about it you ll find that its true.

when a guy who plays say at a masters level gets beat by some chump in a race to three or four because the chump snaps in two 9ball breaks and cheeses the 9in a few times by chance....ask yourself what game is more about pure shotmaking than anyother. wheather its lucky or unlucky....9 ball is the only game where you can play 5 games in under 10 minutes consistantly...why ????? because its all about shotmaking....TV likes 9 ball format because of its fast pace....the game is fast paced because its Offensive oriented, you play the game agggessive at least all the best players do. (a game thats even more shot making oriented is Seven Ball)

if the break isnt a shot that can be pulled consistantly how come some of the pro tourneys a while back made players break from a break box between the middle diamonds and/or Pushed the rack up to where the nine was on the spot instead of the one....(they did it to take the break away...so the game would be more challenging)

safteys might come into play but they usually arent drawn out Chess match style of multiple turn safteys...usually a guy plays a safe and the player either makes a good hit with his turn resulting in a open table run or ball in hand for an easier open table run. think about all the other games....and then think about 9 ball....youll understand what im getting at....on a seven footer (specially a valley) all you need is to make the shot. no need to be overly picky or trying to play finess type of shape. K.I.S.S

 

[sfleinen]

Don't run out with scissors in your hand!

I am hoping that I can get to the point where I can run one ball in a row consistently. :grin:

Actually, I am working on my final run outs. I start off very good, begin to get out of line and just can't seem to get back in line. I have been improving as my run outs are increasing, but I am still not where I want to be.

But won't you clip or hit the side of the door frame if you get out of line on your run out? You should look where you're going when running! Gosh, I can't imagine what would happen if you had a pair of scissors when this happens...



-Sean

 

[blah blah]

Looks like a certain someone didn't like what another someone said about her favorite game, and is stewing over it! <as I duck the flying object hurled at me head> :duck:



j/k,
-Sean

lolol- no i edited it so I could add that bit at the bottom about his buddy breaking in the 9ball a consistent 3- 4 times out of 10. I had a bunch of thoughts at once about that.

And no, my favorite game is definitely jacks : )

 

[blah blah]

just leave your self a open shot in 9 ball....no need to get cute on shape.
just leave yourselve a makeable shot.........K.I.S.S

okay, you're right. sorry.

 

[RD3P]

youve never seen anyone find there groove when breaking 9 ball?

it happens just not consistantly.

i take it you dont like debate but yet you single me out ?

 

[blah blah]

youve never seen anyone find there groove when breaking 9 ball?

it happens just not consistantly.

i take it you dont like debate but yet you single me out ?

Actually my problem is that I love debate wayyy too much and I need to stop it. Sincerely. And I really didn't mean to single you out- I had a knee jerk reaction to the claims that nineball is all about shotmaking, making the 9 on the break, and flying. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was attacking you or singling you out.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, preferences, and interpretations, and we all have our own valid reasons behind our beliefs. But I don't think that we can either change each other's minds or enlighten each other to new perceptions here, and I respectfully would like to leave the discussion at that. Again, I intended no insult or attack, and I apologise for singling you out.