24-hour poolroom camera.

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jimM

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I am writing to offer you a 24-hour camera set-up for your poolroom. My website, www.go4pool.net, has become a hub for watching live-action in New York poolrooms. Using my service, you would put a camera in your room and stream live pool (“live viewer”) over the Internet through go4pool.net — to be viewed by thousands of people across America and throughout the world on a large, beautiful player.

Currently, more than six thousand viewers come to go4pool.net every month, and viewership is steadily rising. Your room will be right there for everyone to watch. Your live viewer will be attached to a chat room so your customers can talk about events in the future or what is going on right now. You can leave messages for anyone who comes to the chat room. And our website is easily found — much easier for your customers than a show on Ustream.

When you stream through go4pool.net, you stream through a high-quality server which has no outside commercials — unlike Ustream. If you decide you want a sponsor partner, you can add their logo to your stream. Your table with your name on it will be in the live viewer for anyone who comes to the site to watch. Your poolroom camera will capture all the action in your room. Your customers can have their friends watch them practice or play in tournaments. The service not only promotes your room, but it adds convenience; people don’t have to drive to the hall to see what’s going on.

I’m offering personalized service: I will show you how to set up your camera to run 24 hours a day, out of your way — a far cry from someone coming into your room for a weekend with a laptop and streaming through Ustream or any other available streamer.

There are two different packages:

$750. If you have a computer that is capable of doing the job, plus a digital camera, I will send you all the peripheral equipment and instructions to set up your computer and camera. I will explain how to install the system and what you need to get it started. I will be available to help you until everything is up and running, and I will remain available for consultations to help solve any problems that may arise in the future.

$1,500. This package includes a computer, a camera, and all the peripheral equipment needed to set up the camera. The computer will arrive with all the necessary software and add-ons that you will need to just plug and play. You will have to install one wire from the camera position to where the computer is located. It can be up to 200 feet away. An Internet connection is also required. The live streaming is included in the price for one year. A one-year contract is required to protect both of our interests.

If you would like to learn more or if you have questions, please feel free to contact me at go4pool@gmail.com. And go to www.go4pool.net and watch some of the other rooms to get a good idea of how yours will look.

I am the owner of Jim Murnak Cue Cases, and I know how important certain investments can be for your business. This is one that will keep interest in your room for as long as it runs.

Thank you,
Jim Murnak
go4pool.net
917-696-0098

Please ask any questions, I will answer as soon as possible.
 
Like the idea! Hopefully the new USB 3.0 video transfer will make HD available for some good pool matches!
 
That would be great.

That would be great, but in the case of the poolroom camera, even though the connection between the camera and the computer can handle it, it doesn't mean that the internet connection that the room has will be able to handle it. Most internet lines have a lot of megs coming in so you can receive HD but only have a limited amount going out so to broadcast in HD is basically impossible.

In one case, I have 10 megs coming in and only 768 kbts going out, which is typical in most internet lines, not all, but most. So even if you use a HD camera, it won't matter because you aren't broadcasting large enough for the HD result.

Thanks,
Jim
 
Do you think a camera would help you?

Please post if you think a 24 hour camera would help your room. Or if you don't think it will, please post the reason.

Thanks,
Jim
 
jimM said:
Please post if you think a 24 hour camera would help your room. Or if you don't think it will, please post the reason.

Thanks,
Jim
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I have had a 24 hr webcam in my room for years, can`t say it has helped my room any.

mickey
 
I've been looking into this myself. I was working on doing a live stream of the commencements of the university I was working for at the time but I ended up leaving in the middle of the project. You see though I was working with an old Real streaming server on location which was great because I had a 100mbps connection from the computer recording to the streaming server and a T1 line going out and it worked brilliantly. I havent looked into streaming to a server offsite such as U stream, is this free or what? I could probably just configure a linux box for streaming and just host everything from inside the poolhall only problem is the upload speed on Time Warner is absurdly slowwwww.
 
Jim,

No one wants to see just a pool table on a computer screen. It's brutally boring to watch. Maybe for security purposes 24 surveillance is good, but without commentary and camera switching or movement it's a bad idea.

There are probably a few that might like to see if their "significant other" is really AT the poolroom, but to sweat a match, no bueno.

Ray
 
jimM said:
Was it costing you a lot to run?

Jim
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NO, business has been so bad I got behind on my credit and they froze my cards that I used to pay the bills. Probably wont be back for a long while.

Mickey
 
Bigtruck said:
Jim,

No one wants to see just a pool table on a computer screen. It's brutally boring to watch. Maybe for security purposes 24 surveillance is good, but without commentary and camera switching or movement it's a bad idea.

There are probably a few that might like to see if their "significant other" is really AT the poolroom, but to sweat a match, no bueno.

Ray
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Ray,
Is this your opinion or did you do some kind of study on it? A lot of people watch my cameras. There are tournaments all the time.
 
jimM said:
Ray,
Is this your opinion or did you do some kind of study on it? A lot of people watch my cameras. There are tournaments all the time.
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I'm sure SOME will watch them, but MOST will not. Just ask around.

Ray
 
Bigtruck said:
I'm sure SOME will watch them, but MOST will not. Just ask around.

Ray
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I did ask around. That is why I did the website. Everyone thought it was a great idea. I get 6,000 views a month and that is a lot more than you get.

I guess you think that I am competition for you and that is why you are using these baseless exagerations.

I guess I am competition for you because with my system it is very simple for a room owner to put a microphone set-up and do comentary himself. With a video mixer, he could also add cameras, etc. I had four cameras and five microphones running through it. So it can go as far as the room owner wants it to go.

The fact is, if YOU went into a room with my system in it, you could cut into my system with your equipment and come through my site and you wouldn't have those annoying commercials popping up over the winning shot on ustream. The guys who designed ustream didn't care that when you play pool, all of the good shots would be covered up by their pop-ups.
 
jimM said:
I did ask around. That is why I did the website. Everyone thought it was a great idea. I get 6,000 views a month and that is a lot more than you get.

I guess you think that I am competition for you and that is why you are using these baseless exagerations.

I guess I am competition for you because with my system it is very simple for a room owner to put a microphone set-up and do comentary himself. With a video mixer, he could also add cameras, etc. I had four cameras and five microphones running through it. So it can go as far as the room owner wants it to go.

The fact is, if YOU went into a room with my system in it, you could cut into my system with your equipment and come through my site and you wouldn't have those annoying commercials popping up over the winning shot on ustream. The guys who designed ustream didn't care that when you play pool, all of the good shots would be covered up by their pop-ups.
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Jim,

You are NOT competition for me. that's the point. You are getting a little worked up there! LOL.

The "annoying commercials" pay for the FREE Ustream. If the cameras are setup properly they do not interfere with the game at all.

Cameras on a pool table are better than nothing, but they cannot take the place of a full production show. 2 different animals that's all I'm saying. Room Owners shouldn't think that just because they put up cameras that they can't benefit from a full production show too.

I like your website, especially the interviews. Great cases too! Keep up the good work.

Ray
 
Thanks.

Ray,
I really appreciate the compliments and I like your show too. I just don't think that you can have it both ways. If it is so unrelated, you shouldn't be so negative about what I am trying to do. I would never get into a thread about you and say that you could be a better comentator. Because it would be none of my business to criticize you. That is all I was saying.
 
jimM said:
Ray,
I really appreciate the compliments and I like your show too. I just don't think that you can have it both ways. If it is so unrelated, you shouldn't be so negative about what I am trying to do. I would never get into a thread about you and say that you could be a better comentator. Because it would be none of my business to criticize you. That is all I was saying.
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Contrar Jim, I REALLY appreciate your input. It helps me to continuously improve my show.

I definitely can be a better commentator. I hate that I say uhhhhh a lot. Working on it though! Keep the input coming for me, I like it, It really helps.

Thanks,

Ray
 
Raxx poolroom

To give you an idea of what a camera does in a poolroom. Raxx poolroom in West Hempsted NY hosted a Tony Robles Predator tour stop over the weekend. There was no commentary and they didn't even have anyone manning the chat room and the web site got 775 viewers which was approximately double the norm. This is recognition for the room and the tournament. It allows any tournament that you bring into your room to get more exposure and your customers know that you are responsible for bringing these events to your room and making them available to them.

And yes (Ray), if there was commentary it could even be better.
 
jimM said:
To give you an idea of what a camera does in a poolroom. Raxx poolroom in West Hempsted NY hosted a Tony Robles Predator tour stop over the weekend. There was no commentary and they didn't even have anyone manning the chat room and the web site got 775 viewers which was approximately double the norm. This is recognition for the room and the tournament. It allows any tournament that you bring into your room to get more exposure and your customers know that you are responsible for bringing these events to your room and making them available to them.

And yes (Ray), if there was commentary it could even be better.
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The data that will "give an idea" is the viewer hours.

My show this past weekend from Bogies Billiards, for example, produced the following viewer hours (how long did people stay and watch):

101 days (2,424 hrs)
13 hours,
15 minutes

I broadcast for approx 20 hours.

"Viewer" totals are too easily manipulated, since people come and go. Viewer hours is a better gauge of how it's doing. Still not totally accurate though, but a better idea.

Hope that helps.

Ray
 
Thanks!!!

In other words, according to your stats, the Raxx poolroom camera without any commentator, and no one manniny the chat room had more viewers than you did during your weekend. I would say that that is great!! And just think, if he decided to do commentary and work with the chat room, it could have been better.

Thanks Ray.
 
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