Jeanette Lee - I can finally exhale!!!

NewStroke said:
I hate to bring this to everyone's attention, but nearly every woman can have a baby with a slight amount of effort. What are the congratulations for? Producing a viable egg? We should also congratulate the husband for having strong enough sperm to make it through the wall of the egg. How about we save the hugs and parties for the parents and the kid when he graduates colleges and starts his journey toward leading his own productive life?

I see too many kids that are just born and just left to fend for themselves. All those people that patted the mother on the head for getting pregnant were nowhere to be found when that child needed help.
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The couple have been trying for years unsuccessfullly to get pregnant and she finally is, and this is your response? The importance of motherhood is so important to her that she's adopted and had a child through surrogate means. That's a lot of effort for:

"Nearly every woman can have a baby with a slight amount of effort."

Is there something in the water in your neck of the woods that would cause you to write such a callous and insensitive statement? My god, she (and every woman who's had a difficult to impossible time trying to get pregnant) deserves a lot more than that.

Fred
 
Cornerman said:
The couple have been trying for years unsuccessfullly to get pregnant and she finally is, and this is your response? The importance of motherhood is so important to her that she's adopted and had a child through surrogate means. That's a lot of effort for:

"Nearly every woman can have a baby with a slight amount of effort."

Is there something in the water in your neck of the woods that would cause you to write such a callous and insensitive statement? My god, she (and every woman who's had a difficult to impossible time trying to get pregnant) deserves a lot more than that.

Fred
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If you want to talk about the importance of motherhood, let's talk about my wife. We have 5 boys, ages 21 to 28. Two years ago we adopted 2 babies, one born on methamphetamine and the other abused by her father. Each day, we thank God we are allowed to be a part of these children's lives and that they do not have to grow up in the environment they were born into.

My statement was neither callous or insensitive and I apologize if you took it that way. Too many people take parenthood too casually and believe that just giving birth makes you a parent. Fact is, it is what you do to help that child grow that makes you a parent. I wasn't singling out Ms Lee, I was just pointing out the transparency of congratulating someone for getting prenant.
 
NewStroke said:
If you want to talk about the importance of motherhood, let's talk about my wife. We have 5 boys, ages 21 to 28. Two years ago we adopted 2 babies, one born on methamphetamine and the other abused by her father. Each day, we thank God we are allowed to be a part of these children's lives and that they do not have to grow up in the environment they were born into.

My statement was neither callous or insensitive and I apologize if you took it that way. Too many people take parenthood too casually and believe that just giving birth makes you a parent. Fact is, it is what you do to help that child grow that makes you a parent. I wasn't singling out Ms Lee, I was just pointing out the transparency of congratulating someone for getting prenant.
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When I first read your other post, I was like, "oh, he doesn't know they have had problems getting pregnant in the past."

Thank you for sharing the reason behind your post - you obviously have a different view about this because of your two adopted children had difficult parents who gave them an unfortunate environment. For others, like me, I will still congratulate my friends who become pregnant. It's a very precious time for them and their families.

BTW, I applaud you and your wife for adopting the children in need!
 
NewStroke said:
If you want to talk about the importance of motherhood, let's talk about my wife. We have 5 boys, ages 21 to 28. Two years ago we adopted 2 babies, one born on methamphetamine and the other abused by her father. Each day, we thank God we are allowed to be a part of these children's lives and that they do not have to grow up in the environment they were born into.

My statement was neither callous or insensitive and I apologize if you took it that way. Too many people take parenthood too casually and believe that just giving birth makes you a parent. Fact is, it is what you do to help that child grow that makes you a parent. I wasn't singling out Ms Lee, I was just pointing out the transparency of congratulating someone for getting prenant.
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I can't reconcile you post whatsoever. You ask smugly "what's the congratulations for?" Then you go on to tell us the heroism of you wife which looks to be on the same level as Jeanette's story. Again, I'm having a tough time reconciling it because with your own history, you would think that you'd be first in line to congratulate Jeanette. Or can you not see that her feelings on motherhood completely jibe with your wife's? I'm just not seeing the meaning of your post, especially the negativity to it the congratulations to her pregancy.

Let's see, Jeanette now has: Five children - 2 step children, one adopted teen, one adopted at birth, one biological via surrogate. Nothing casual about that parenthood. And you say you weren't singling out Jeanette? What does that even mean? You are including her in this grand negativity of celebrating pregnancy? I don't think you know what you're saying.

And what's the congratulations for? 14+ years of trying to get pregnant and finally succeeding deserves a congratulations. Period.

Fred <~~~ doesn't get it
 
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