Golf more exciting than Pool?

Lmao

OK, and the ESPN experts results puts Golf at "51", which is 4 spots below "ping pong" in terms of difficulty, and one spot in front of "cheerleading".

I could not even make up something this funny !!!! I pulled it right from ESPN on the old Intenet.


Water Skiing - 46
Table Tennis - 47
Track and Field: - 48
Canoe/Kayak - 49
Horse Racing - 50
Golf - 51
Cheerleading - 52

I believe that is CHECK and MATE Sir !!
 
I can enjoy playing both pool and golf, but as far as watching it on television I think pool is far better imo.

With golf I am happy just to see the highlights. With pool I want to see the whole match.

I think that you just hit the nail on the head on the whole issue.

In golf there are highlights, in pool there are not. For the most part, you have to watch the entire match in pool to understand it where in golf the highlights will suffice.
 
This is getting pretty funny. Golf is NOT a tough sport to play, heck, I see guys in their 60s and 70s out EVERY weekend, drive their cars up to the BAG DROP, the attendant takes their clubs out of their trunks and puts them on the carts they'll be riding. Before the round they might get a couple of bloody Marys in the clubhouse, and head out to the carts to find the first tee. They proceed to take a couple of practice swings before teeing off, only to duff one about 50 feet in front of them in the deep fescue....OH WELL, doesn't count, first tee mulligan. lol. There will be more mulligans, foot wedges, improving of lies, etc. throughout the day as well. But, it's all good, as long as that lovely college coed stops by every 3 holes or so with beverages and snacks. What's the scorecard say at the end of the day? Who knows, but you know it's not accurate. If you ask them though, they are definitely GOLFERS!!

Point is, golf is VERY easy to play. Playing it well, on the other hand is a bit of a chore. That is true for ANYTHING you want to do well. Who cares what the HARDEST is....find something that you have a passion for and strive to do your best at it. How's that? :p
 
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OK, and the ESPN experts results puts Golf at "51", which is 4 spots below "ping pong" in terms of difficulty, and one spot in front of "cheerleading".

I could not even make up something this funny !!!! I pulled it right from ESPN on the old Intenet.


Water Skiing - 46
Table Tennis - 47
Track and Field: - 48
Canoe/Kayak - 49
Horse Racing - 50
Golf - 51
Cheerleading - 52

I believe that is CHECK and MATE Sir !!

Do you take everything you read at face value? Do you really think that ESPN's top 60 most difficult sports list is the last word?

Boxing is #1, but I bet Golf and Billiards are much more difficult to Oscar De La Hoya... Heck, I've seen him golf... It's definitely more difficult for him than boxing!

Also, try not to call check mate when you can be put back into check yourself. Nothing is worse than a miss-call in a nice game of chess. You conveniently left out that ESPN rates billiards at #59 on your most reputable of lists... falling behind Bowling and Shooting, and just edging out Fishing to make the top 60. Come on man... don't let your own source disprove your point.

Here is a link to what he is referring to if anyone wants to see it. It's actually quite interesting:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills
 
Hmmm

Do you take everything you read at face value? Do you really think that ESPN's top 60 most difficult sports list is the last word?

Boxing is #1, but I bet Golf and Billiards are much more difficult to Oscar De La Hoya... Heck, I've seen him golf... It's definitely more difficult for him than boxing!

Also, try not to call check mate when you can be put back into check yourself. Nothing is worse than a miss-call in a nice game of chess. You conveniently left out that ESPN rates billiards at #59 on your most reputable of lists... falling behind Bowling and Shooting, and just edging out Fishing to make the top 60. Come on man... don't let your own source disprove your point.

Here is a link to what he is referring to if anyone wants to see it. It's actually quite interesting:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

How can I disprove my own point. My only point is that golf is not the toughest, or even near the toughest sports to play. I wouldn't care if billiards was behind interprative dancing because I'm in complete agreement that pool is not difficult and never said it was. I was just taking Travis to task for saying golf is the toughest when it barely edged out Cheerleading. And no, you can pull up Sports Illustrated and find similar results. It's not a physical demanding sport. That's a fact. Heck,remember the guy in the wheelchair that they prevented from playing because he had the "unfair" advantage of not "walking". Yeah, real unfair advantage in life or competing in any sport...geesh.

Um, Oscar could be taught to be good a good golfer, but boxing relies on some pretty natural born instincts, atheleticism, endurance, strength that you just could not teach the average person. Seriously, you are going to compare pool and golf to boxing? LMAO

So is Golf the toughest sport to play? NO. And nobody can argue that point because it is just plain silly. Baseball versus football versus boxing versus hockey, and now you are talking about an argument that possibly could never be settled. But Golf over everything? Check and Mate Sir.
 
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Hmmm

Do you take everything you read at face value? Do you really think that ESPN's top 60 most difficult sports list is the last word?

Boxing is #1, but I bet Golf and Billiards are much more difficult to Oscar De La Hoya... Heck, I've seen him golf... It's definitely more difficult for him than boxing!

Also, try not to call check mate when you can be put back into check yourself. Nothing is worse than a miss-call in a nice game of chess. You conveniently left out that ESPN rates billiards at #59 on your most reputable of lists... falling behind Bowling and Shooting, and just edging out Fishing to make the top 60. Come on man... don't let your own source disprove your point.

Here is a link to what he is referring to if anyone wants to see it. It's actually quite interesting:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

Thanks for the ESPN link. Looking at it again, it appears that Golf is also two places above ROLLERSKATING... Man, the hits keep coming ! LMAO

Rollerskating?? Check and Mate; Match and Set, Sound the Bell, Time has expired, The Fat Lady is singing and I believe some retired Roller Derby chick is smiling somewhere!!
 
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Hmmm

Mikey, sometimes it helps if you actually read the posts?

ChicagoRJ: "Granted, golf is probably more difficult that pool, but more than baseball or a dozen other sports not on your life. I can teach my grandmother to drill a 18 foot putt,drinking a wine cooler in sunny Florida before she could ever avoid a linebacker trying to "sack" her."

Again, he said golf is tougher than ALL sports. I agree that golf is harder than pool, but it appears NOT by much.
 
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In as much as there are some very good replies to this thread, let me just throw in a couple for a bit more flavor.
There are similarties when comparing golf to pocket billiards, no doubt about it, but the same could be said for many other game comparisons. Rather than point out the differences, let me offer a few of those similarities that are common in both golf and pool. And remember. We're talking about those who have risen to a reasonable level of skill in both endeavors, not the hackers of the world.
Both games require good hand-eye coordination and a certain amount of athleticism. Those who can't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time tend not to do well.
Great strength is not required in either game. Lorena Ochoa, for instance, weighs 125 pounds and averages 270 plus yards with the driver. Silver Ochoa is not a big fellow either, and he belongs to the as good as it gets crowd.
The best payers start at an early age, put in untold hours of practice and are dedicated to what they do. These are common traits found in either game.
Both golf and pool can be agonizingly boring if you are not interested in what you are watching. I personnally like seeing golf on TV, especially if Tiger and Phil are playing, and I find a game of One Pocket absolutely thrilling. So who's to say.
Now if you'll excuse me I have some Backgammon scheduled for two o'clock in the rec room. The nurses let us play all afternoon if we want to. :smile:
 
IMO, golf is more excitiing to watch because they constantly flip between different players, you never miss a great shot because its recorded and played back. There's excitement because while the leader of the tournament is playing and another player is making a charge the crowds get really loud. Even if a player who's not going to win the tournament makes a hole in one its pretty exciting or it has the Wow factor. I wouldn't compare a 9 ball on the break as being equivalent to that, maybe if someone broke and made 6 or 7 balls on the break and had a couple hangers to finish the run out it'd be about the same.

In general, golf is sucessful because average people who play golf spend money on the game. They buy products (shoes, clubs, lessons, hitting balls at the range, green fees, etc). Plus the people who run a lot of major corporations (sponsors) play golf and are proud to put their company names as title sponsors for a golf tournament.

Even amongst serious pool fans, people don't spend a comparable amount of money to what a golfer is willing to spend.

How many streams have you watched where you see 1000+ people watching a free stream but if its a pay per view of $20 on TAR all of a sudden you get less than 100 people to watch, yet you'll have people wanting to have a play by play posted on AZ of the match.
 
Mikey, sometimes it helps if you actually read the posts?

ChicagoRJ: "Granted, golf is probably more difficult that pool, but more than baseball or a dozen other sports not on your life. I can teach my grandmother to drill a 18 foot putt,drinking a wine cooler in sunny Florida before she could ever avoid a linebacker trying to "sack" her."

Again, he said golf is tougher than ALL sports. I agree that golf is harder than pool, but it appears NOT by much.

Fair enough... I misread your initial post... My mistake.

I'm flattered that my one post warranted 3 responses though :)

Though it may take about the same amount of effort, practice and training to "master" something, I don't think that anyone could argue that, from a physically demanding aspect, golf and billiards should be way down on the list... Which they are.

Since that was the original point, I lay my king... It shouldn't have been a game of chess from the beginning.
 
QUOTE: Travis13:
I am a golf course superintendent (yeah, so what?) and scratch golfer. (another big whatever, are we suppose to put our resumes here, I was not sure?

Golf is as addicting as anything out there (yeah, like pool guys are not completely engrossed in the game as well?? or baseball players or football players or anyone else that has a favorite sport) and unless you play, you just can't understand. It is the most difficult sport to play imo. LMAO

The hostility from this is just hilarious
 
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Hmmmm

The hostility from this is just hilarious

I guess I coud say the "smugness" from your post is hilarious. But it is
not as hilarious as a guy who finds out that he invested so much time into one sport only to find out that during the next round of layoffs, you are now qualified to be a cheerleading coach !
PS: Since you don't have a sense of humor I feel I must explaine I'm "kidding" about the cheerleading crack. Don't take it personal. geez..

Just a reminder for those who might have missed the bottom of the list of toughest sports.
46 - Water Skiing
47- Table Tennis
48 - Track and Field
49 - Canoe/Kayak
50 - Horse Racing
51 - Golf
52 - Cheerleading
53 - Rollerskating
 
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Hmmm

Fair enough... I misread your initial post... My mistake.

I'm flattered that my one post warranted 3 responses though :)

Though it may take about the same amount of effort, practice and training to "master" something, I don't think that anyone could argue that, from a physically demanding aspect, golf and billiards should be way down on the list... Which they are.

Since that was the original point, I lay my king... It shouldn't have been a game of chess from the beginning.

Fair enough !! I've sometimes "skimmed" through a thread or two and missed a post or three. I'm just getting tired of all this golf nonsense about how difficult golf is. Guys who never played sports but then took up golf later in life act as if this is like a triathalon or something. If he said it was tougher than pool, I'd have kept on my way and never stopped. But these "duffers" must be stopped !!
 
I could say the same about guys who play baseball at a non professional level. Most of these wanabe's buy alot of gear,bats shoes hats gloves etc and play on local teams. Are they hitting off pitchers that throw 90 miles and hour I think not.Lets face it everyone has a passion about their sport but only a few are lucky enough to play it for a living.It takes talent alot of practice and some luck to hit the majors.
Yeah you guys play golf at an amatuer level but ask a golfer who really plays the game what it takes to be a PGA professional and then you will know why their is only 132 players qualified to play on the tour when their is 3million people who play the game.
 
Well guys...here's one , since I started using Pro One / CTE by Stan Shuffet , pool getting too easy..... got to play golf ....JUST KIDDING !! Though Pro One has made a huge difference in how I approach the game in visuals and pocketing..Pool's my first love..golf I will use for the sunshine.
 
First of all, I think you need to have a respectable handicap to even be qualified to talk about golf or a certain level of first hand experience to be able to comment on any sport for that matter. I want to know how many of these so called ESPN experts have actually done all those sports and to what extent? When they rated pool, they were probably thinking 8 ball at the local bar.

For any of you who don't know how to box or even fight you really can't give your opinion on it, and it is a joke to even think you could pass judgement based on a stinking ESPN poll. For any of you who don't play golf, I would love to see you hit a 3-iron and get it past the 200 yd marker. Or, what about getting backspin with your sandwedge? Could you even hit a 3-wood off the ground? Probably not. What about reading the green? or playing on a breezy day? There are so many variables to take into consideration in golf and that is what makes it hard. Simply put, it is by no means easy to properly hit a golf ball with consistency.

The golf swing is very difficult to learn.

Also, golf is a true gentleman's game. If I were to rate it, I would put it above boxing, because any idiot could throw a punch. With that said, not just anyone can take that same punch, as the majority of people don't have the mental willingness to take pain. Boxing, though, is difficult, but I would personally rate golf as being harder, and yes, I know about both.

How in the hell can swimming be rated above pool? I would like to take 100 people oblivious to both swim 10 laps and then try and play a game of 9 ball. I don't think they would get past the five ball. I can see cheerleading being tough, because how many people could actually do a backhandspring or even a forward somersault? I can see how hockey is tough because you need multiple skills combined simultaneously, and the intensity is insane.

I think a better question is not how hard a sport is, but what is the toughest sport to master. Each sport has it's difficulties and truthfully, it's really all about mastering yourself, and that's why martial arts (real martial art - not mma) should be ranked number one, and by the way, there is a sport side to martial arts, and an art aspect which is the primary foundation of Martial Arts.

To address the original question, I would have to say it depends on the person. It depends on your own personal knowledge and what is right up your alley. You might think sewing is exciting if you a fashion designer, so the original question is hard to answer. If you ask me, an 8 in both pool and golf, I would have to say they are both exciting to watch, but due to the professionalism involved in the coverage of golf on TV, I would have to say that golf is more fun to watch.

You could do a poll for those who have a respectable game in both golf and pool, and that might provide a more interesting read.

I was thinking about this the other day. There are those who try and compare the two sports, golf and pool. I have heard people ask, what's wrong with pool, or how can we grow our sport, and I will say, look at the grandeur of the game of golf. Golf is played on a huge playground. It is traditionally considered a prestigious game, and those connected with it are going places in life. In life, what is important is thinking big and golf is definitely big, powerful and beautiful which is what people like. Pool on the other hand is small in comparison. You walk around a table poking balls in, and on top of that, it historically has a 'bad boy image'. Pool halls have always been the place where those who don't want to face the everyday rigors of life go to escape. I have heard this saying before, "A good pool player is a sign of a mis-spent youth". Why would that be so? Take the two sports, and ask someone, which one is smarter to be associated with, and golf would win hands down, and it's not just about the money, that's just how our world has evolved.

If you want to grow a sport, you have to demonstrate the beauty of it to other people, and I don't see a whole lot of pool players who are willing to openly share the game. How many schools be it junior high or college have golf programs? How many of those same schools have billiard / pool programs in place? and why? To those who play both, we know that it is about achieving a high level of mental tranquility, but to the mainstream public, they are not the same. Not even close.

If we wanted to truly grow our sport, I would suggest doing it man to man, one person at a time. Take a friend with you to play pool. Show that person why you love the game, and chances are, your friend will catch on to that vibe. Introduce them to some true talent via streams or video, and I can guarantee you it will hook em. I've heard many a story where a cue maker, or great pool player became what he is today because someone took the time to show them the magic of the game, and they became instantly connected. In church, our pastor is always asking us to bring a friend and become closer to God. I would like to see that same spirit exist here at AZ. If you promote love and what is in your heart, how can you go wrong? The power of forums like this is the fact that we reach a wide variety of people that is as easily accessible at the stroke of your keyboard. If we were to set a common goal to get one new person involved in the game every month, in 10 years, we might have have a totally different result and outlook on the game than we have today.
 
It's not fair to compare Golf with Pool. Golf is more classy and challenging.
I think people who want to make pool more attractive should look at snooker and how they did it. Similar sport but they have a working system and play their tour in Europe and even China. People have to qualify to play on their tour etc. Nor in golf or snooker you will see people play a tournament dressed like they've been sleeping in a trash-can.

For lots of people pool is about hustling and bad mouth people like Mr Strickland.
 
QUOTE: SK CUES: For any of you who don't know how to box or even fight you really can't give your opinion on it,

ChicagoRJ: But us that can are giving an opinion.

QUOTE: SKCues: And it is a joke to even think you could pass judgement based on a stinking ESPN poll. For any of you who don't play golf, I would love to see you hit a 3-iron and get it past the 200 yd marker.

ChicagoRJ: But is OK for you to pass judgement based on no evidence whats so ever? I'll take the experts at ESPN over a cuemaker regarding all sports anyday of the week and twice on Sunday. LMAO

QUOTE: SK Cues: Or, what about getting backspin with your sandwedge? Could you even hit a 3-wood off the ground? Probably not. What about reading the green? or playing on a breezy day? There are so many variables to take into consideration in golf and that is what makes it hard. Simply put, it is by no means easy to properly hit a golf ball with consistency. The golf swing is very difficult to learn.

ChicagoRJ: Again, LMAO. The ball is just sitting there?? A baseball swing, that is another story, trying to keep up with a 95mph pitch or a 85 mph slider and only have a fraction of a second to decide, not to mention to have the natural god given hand speed to make contact.

QUOTE: SK Cues: Also, golf is a true gentleman's game. If I were to rate it, I would put it above boxing, because any idiot could throw a punch. With that said, not just anyone can take that same punch, as the majority of people don't have the mental willingness to take pain. Boxing, though, is difficult, but I would personally rate golf as being harder, and yes, I know about both.

ChicagoRJ: And this is where you look like a fool. After some lengthy experience in Martial Arts, (pretty closely related to boxing) you got to be kidding. The fact you made the statement, "any idiot can throw a punch" tells me you are clueless. OK, we'll go get a random "fan" off the street and teach them both and see how long they last at both sports. Give me a break. Face facts, Golf finished one step higher than Cheerleading and that my friend might be an insult to every Cheerleader who ever held a Pom Pom.

Just a little tired about hearing how difficult golf is. Took my son to the driving range, and on the second time there he is drilling the ball 100 yards (he is 11 years old) and pretty consistently. I only dream he could hit this well on his baseball team !!!!! SO I guess all the experts at both ESPN as well as Sports Illustrated are wrong. And the lil old ladies dropping 18 foot putts is just an illusion. [/COLOR]
 
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Where you fail to compare accurately and with any sense is the fact that you are giving the scenario to have any random person go up against a professional pitcher's throw and that is unrealistic. I am giving my opinion based on real life experience, and that is my point. I didn't say you had to take my opinion, I just think you are jumping the gun with your smart comments. Did you say you could hit a golf ball?? Properly?? If can't, you have no room to talk about golf.

In golf, even with a stationary ball, it is very difficult to hit properly. It is much smaller, and the are so many things that can go wrong from head to toe. I am not saying hitting a baseball isn't hard, and that wasn't my point, but you are taking things out of proportion. You are taking this poll and passing judgement as if it was the bible and I think you need to back up a little and rethink before you keep smarting off to people. I doubt that the majority of those so called experts participated in 10 percent of those sports and did so over any length of time.

Watching and doing are not the same thing. To think so is shallow.

The poll is subjective and IMO, is a joke with very little conclusive evidence, that is where I think you are a little off base with some of your comments. They are simply opinions based on people who sit on their butt for a living.

My whole point is let's use our energy in a more positive way and put some of these thoughts and opinions into action and do something for our sport.
 
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