Kamui Black medium tips differences

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fr3nzy

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Hello there,
The tip that I had previously on my cue was Kamui Black Medium which came with a pad under it. It was very good tip. It didn't need time to be breaken in and it was shooting perfect from the first hit. I was very comfortable with it but when it wore out I decided to change it again with Kamui Black Medium but this time I bought a newer model with a bigger round logo on it. The newer tip came without a pad and when I installed it it was shooting very hard, and when I put for example back spin it is like always kicking. I cant draw much and cant do nice forcefollows like before. Now I am shooting for 3 months with it and it is not becoming better? Does anyone has opinions on this? :)
Thank you,
Peter
 
Tips are not consistent from batch to batch and even within the same batch. New tips and new structure means their process is now different, and that means you're not getting the same tip you bought long ago. Maybe they're going green and are using soy fed cows,,,who knows.

Suggestion for the future: If you fall in love with something of this nature, like tips,,,BUY A BOX, cross your fingers, and hope they're all similar, because sure as s**! the quality will get worse.
 
I understand and accept Le Pros not playing the same from tip to tip and having to go through the process of pressing them or tossing them in water to see which ones float or even going so far as to installing up to 3 or 4 or 5 of them hoping you finally get one you are satisfied with.

HOWEVER, buying a layered tip for $20, expecting quality control measures and consistency in manufacturing and still getting a response of "well, there are variances in the manufacturing process" is a load of bull crud. Buying a layered tip, with a measured hardness rating, should GUARANTEE a level of quality control and consistency, pre-checked from the manufacturer. If Kamui is going to start tossing out tips that are just as hit or miss as the single layer tips ... why in the world would anyone buy them? Especially given the fact that they are supposed to be sorted to different hardness ratings, why would anyone have to guess that maybe their Kamui medium that they paid $20 for happens to play more like a hard? The extra money charged was always for the higher costs associated with the construction costs and the consistency implied in the higher controls.

Not as if this is directly related, but for me personally, it really makes me triple doubt paying big money for their latest and greatest chalk offering. If they can't bother to consistenly make their tips, why would I pay a fortune for their chalk? Especially since it could turn to a hit or miss prospect in just a few months after the release, just like their tips...
 
fr3nzy said:
Hello there,
The tip that I had previously on my cue was Kamui Black Medium which came with a pad under it. It was very good tip. It didn't need time to be breaken in and it was shooting perfect from the first hit. I was very comfortable with it but when it wore out I decided to change it again with Kamui Black Medium but this time I bought a newer model with a bigger round logo on it. The newer tip came without a pad and when I installed it it was shooting very hard, and when I put for example back spin it is like always kicking. I cant draw much and cant do nice forcefollows like before. Now I am shooting for 3 months with it and it is not becoming better? Does anyone has opinions on this? :)
Thank you,
Peter
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Hi There,

How sure are you it was not a soft Kamui you originally installed. The new Kamui Tips are more consistent than ever. Please PM me.
 
PaulieB said:
I understand and accept Le Pros not playing the same from tip to tip and having to go through the process of pressing them or tossing them in water to see which ones float or even going so far as to installing up to 3 or 4 or 5 of them hoping you finally get one you are satisfied with.

HOWEVER, buying a layered tip for $20, expecting quality control measures and consistency in manufacturing and still getting a response of "well, there are variances in the manufacturing process" is a load of bull crud. Buying a layered tip, with a measured hardness rating, should GUARANTEE a level of quality control and consistency, pre-checked from the manufacturer. If Kamui is going to start tossing out tips that are just as hit or miss as the single layer tips ... why in the world would anyone buy them? Especially given the fact that they are supposed to be sorted to different hardness ratings, why would anyone have to guess that maybe their Kamui medium that they paid $20 for happens to play more like a hard? The extra money charged was always for the higher costs associated with the construction costs and the consistency implied in the higher controls.

Not as if this is directly related, but for me personally, it really makes me triple doubt paying big money for their latest and greatest chalk offering. If they can't bother to consistenly make their tips, why would I pay a fortune for their chalk? Especially since it could turn to a hit or miss prospect in just a few months after the release, just like their tips...
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Given the information from the original post, there are hundreds of reasons and variables that would cause the tip from being consistent to the player. As for one, the way the tip was installed. And I noticed, correct me if I am wrong, the first tips, "old one" had a pad under it.

Before accusing the manufacture, investigate the variables first. AND I am not hard to get a hold of to answer and help find out why your experience had changed from the tip change to the new.

AND, go back to your authorized installer and talk to him about the change in experience.... He will then call me and we can help you.

No reason to point the gun and pull the trigger before you know the full truth.

I am here to help you.
 
Kamuitipsdotcom said:
Given the information from the original post, there are hundreds of reasons and variables that would cause the tip from being consistent to the player. As for one, the way the tip was installed. And I noticed, correct me if I am wrong, the first tips, "old one" had a pad under it.

Before accusing the manufacture, investigate the variables first. AND I am not hard to get a hold of to answer and help find out why your experience had changed from the tip change to the new.

AND, go back to your authorized installer and talk to him about the change in experience.... He will then call me and we can help you.

No reason to point the gun and pull the trigger before you know the full truth.

I am here to help you.
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What do pads actually do? And how do you install them?
 
TheThaiger said:
What do pads actually do? And how do you install them?
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Hi there,

we do not recommend using a pad. Not necessary. It can lead to a softer feel of hit to the cue ball. I never understood the true purpose of using a pad except to protect an ivory ferrule.
 
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