Interesting early gambling experiences!

There are oh, so many things in this that scream BS!!!

And what have you gained by saying this?

I wouldn't spend anytime defending myself over and over if I was lying. Again, I have no reason to lie to any of you, but if that's what you want to believe then go for it.

I can't wait to post my next lie so that I can get bashed by people like you. That feels oh, so good! But I guess since this didn't happen to you, it must be a lie.

You have a nice day! And feel free to not post on any of my future threads as I have no use for people that challenge my integrity without personally knowing me.

Just when the thread was turning in a positive way, somebody has to come along and spread hate and discontent.

I apologize to everyone for this outburst, but this is truly getting old.
 
The $2500.......what happened to it
Did you
Buy drinks for everyone
Buy the loser a drink
Invest the money in more pool
Donate it
Light cigars with it
Still have it

Finish the story
 
dont bet what you dont have

if you dont have the money to pay if you lose you get what you deserve all the crying and name calling in the world wont change that how would you guys giving him a hard time like it if someone lost $600 to you and couldnt pay ? he was playing pool not giving loans
 
The $2500.......what happened to it
Did you
Buy drinks for everyone
Buy the loser a drink
Invest the money in more pool
Donate it
Light cigars with it
Still have it

Finish the story

LOL! Actually, out of the $2900 that I walked out with, most of it went to paying off an old Kawasaki Ninja 600 RX that I had bought from a friend using a loan from a company called Pioneer. I don't ever recommend them to anyone. They specialized on military member loans at a mere 21% interest. That only left a little bit, and the wife got that!

The guy was so pissed off that he didn't stick around. I didn't know what to do. He was rightfully upset cursing at me and the only thing I was thinking at the time was how I was going to put this guy down if he attacked me!

Great! I'm sure my answer will invite more criticism! Let me have it! I probably should have held on to it until he was able to win every dime of it back, but that is not what happened! I was only there to give him a chance to win his money back and when he left, so did I!
 
Not my tale but my dads. My dad never played well but he had a cousin and another friend he ran around with. The other 2 both played very good and most the time they played for the cash in the bars but had also played at the rack. They all had regular jobs at the factories so no one was trying to make a living at it.

Dad said that is where they all had met Red. He claimed his cousin (Manning) played real close to Red's speed. Manning was from Columbus OH. Dad and Charles Roberts(Stud) were both from KY.

Dad said they never busted a guy if they could help it so they always had action. I believe it was sometime in the 70's in Detroit. Actually in a hole just outside of Detroit in River Rouge and one regulars was on tilt betting more than normal that Friday night he was drinking heavy and pissed. pick one(old lady ran off, his dog bit him and his truck was repo'ed) They had him for 1000 and he was getting out of hand mad and drinking more so they let him play it down and quit him 5-600 up. They moved on and made there way thru the bars that night.

He found out Saturday night that a man had been killed Friday night. He had just beat a drunk out of his last dime. The drunk left but came back a couple minutes later and blew the guys brains out. The drunk was the same guy they had stuck for 1000 and backed off of.

This was my dads last weekend running this way. He said he decided he had 3 kids and a wife to provide for and this could have been him.

call bs, call me a liar, call dad a liar, makes no difference to me.

As for myself the only interesting gambling I have done is cash against a guy who was paying his side in fresh ground pork sausage:grin:
 
the main reason I quit running the roads with my partner

He found out Saturday night that a man had been killed Friday night. He had just beat a drunk out of his last dime. The drunk left but came back a couple minutes later and blew the guys brains out. The drunk was the same guy they had stuck for 1000 and backed off of.

This was my dads last weekend running this way. He said he decided he had 3 kids and a wife to provide for and this could have been him.

call bs, call me a liar, call dad a liar, makes no difference to me.

As for myself the only interesting gambling I have done is cash against a guy who was paying his side in fresh ground pork sausage:grin:

My partner for some little road trips that were our main or sole source of income for a few months at a time sometimes was a married man with two small children. He tended to forget that on the road, his wife didn't. Bobby had very little redeeming social value, he was a helluva pool player, fun to be around, and would give a friend the shirt off his back. There were quite a few not so sterling qualities that don't need mentioning. After a few days or a week on the road I'd coast past Bobby's home in a rural area and let him walk the last little piece back home. His wife had his .38 and 30-30 and knew how to use both of them! Somebody told her where Bobby and I were at one night along with a couple of companions and only a fortuitous flat prevented a shooting. We made good money and had good times but I didn't really need the money anymore and didn't need to get shot.

His wife did eventually shoot Bobby, sorta. He was working offshore and would take most of his week off to make it home just in time to give his wife a small fraction of his paycheck and go again. He had to stay over a few days one trip and for a change came straight home. He had been rebuilding a monster diesel engine around the clock while working the overtime and just fell in bed, grubby clothes and all.

His wife came home and took one look at him and started screaming. "Three days late and broke again I'll bet!" By the time Bobby woke up she had the thirty-eight and was busting caps. As he sailed out the front door she hit the doorframe, heart high! A half inch over and Bobby would have been learning to play a harp or more likely dodging pitchforks. The .38 isn't a real potent round and the 20-30 year old very hard and brittle doorframe shattered but stopped the bullet. Didn't mean Bobby got off scott free, he had some ten or twelve inch long splinters in his ribcage. They couldn't pull them out with pliers so they finally had to take Bobby to the emergency room to have the splinters removed after trying other options for a couple hours. I forget the story they told, something about a nail gun I believe. Almost true, she almost nailed him with it. :grin:

Bobby could accidentally get in more trouble walking the hundred feet to check his roadside rural mailbox than most people could hunt up in a month of Sundays. Most of it seemed like good fun at the time but there were a lot of times we could have found ourselves a little bit dead when I think back on things.

Hu
 
only thing I was thinking at the time was how I was going to put this guy down if he attacked me!

If I knew you then I would have LEASED my X-wife to you. NOBODY would come near you.
 
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My partner for some little road trips that were our main or sole source of income for a few months at a time sometimes was a married man with two small children. He tended to forget that on the road, his wife didn't. Bobby had very little redeeming social value, he was a helluva pool player, fun to be around, and would give a friend the shirt off his back. There were quite a few not so sterling qualities that don't need mentioning. After a few days or a week on the road I'd coast past Bobby's home in a rural area and let him walk the last little piece back home. His wife had his .38 and 30-30 and knew how to use both of them! Somebody told her where Bobby and I were at one night along with a couple of companions and only a fortuitous flat prevented a shooting. We made good money and had good times but I didn't really need the money anymore and didn't need to get shot.

His wife did eventually shoot Bobby, sorta. He was working offshore and would take most of his week off to make it home just in time to give his wife a small fraction of his paycheck and go again. He had to stay over a few days one trip and for a change came straight home. He had been rebuilding a monster diesel engine around the clock while working the overtime and just fell in bed, grubby clothes and all.

His wife came home and took one look at him and started screaming. "Three days late and broke again I'll bet!" By the time Bobby woke up she had the thirty-eight and was busting caps. As he sailed out the front door she hit the doorframe, heart high! A half inch over and Bobby would have been learning to play a harp or more likely dodging pitchforks. The .38 isn't a real potent round and the 20-30 year old very hard and brittle doorframe shattered but stopped the bullet. Didn't mean Bobby got off scott free, he had some ten or twelve inch long splinters in his ribcage. They couldn't pull them out with pliers so they finally had to take Bobby to the emergency room to have the splinters removed after trying other options for a couple hours. I forget the story they told, something about a nail gun I believe. Almost true, she almost nailed him with it. :grin:

Bobby could accidentally get in more trouble walking the hundred feet to check his roadside rural mailbox than most people could hunt up in a month of Sundays. Most of it seemed like good fun at the time but there were a lot of times we could have found ourselves a little bit dead when I think back on things.

Hu

Great story!

I'm very reluctant to share this story but seeing the support that most of you have given me, I feel I must. Plus it kind of ties in with your story of an angry wife.

I played a guy in league, and he was so upset that I beat him that he challenged me to play after. His wife started telling him that he better not lose that money because they needed it, but he insisted to her that he could beat me.

We play a race to 5 for $100. I win the first set and ask him for the money. He gets upset and says that he's got it and not to worry about it, but I learned my lesson from many years back and insisted on seeing the money. So he tells his wife to show me the money and to pay me. She pulls out an envelope and shows me $500 in hundred dollar bills and gives me one.

We play another set and I win again. His wife is pissed, but gives me the money. He asks me to play again and his wife tells him to quit, but he insists. She's so pissed that she leaves and goes into the bar area. Since she's still in the building, I go ahead and play him another set. This time he wins. We go back and forth winning and losing that same $100 until finally I win two sets in a row and now he owes me another $100. So he asks a friend to go get his wife. His wife comes into the room and I kid you not you could see flames in her eyes!! She was so angry that she reached in her purse gave me another $100, grabed his cue and swung it as hard as she could against the side of the table. That shaft didn't stand a chance...on the first swing! She swung it for a second time and ended up bending the joint somehow! Now the whole cue was worthless! She was crying and they were both screaming at each other. She ran into the bathroom crying and he was so pissed that he walked out the door, got in his car and left her there.

When she came out, a friend told her that her husband had left and so she started to cry some more. I felt horrible at how things went, so I went up to her and gave her all the money back. I also told her to not say anything to her husband about me giving her back the money.

Who knows maybe they pulled a fast one on me, but to me it seemed all too real.

I've won and lost a lot of money gambling, but regardless of how much money I've won, nothing has ever made me feel better than giving that woman that money back.
 
A good S&W was less that $500. Ammo was cheaper then. You would had have plenty of change.

I'm pretty sure that murder was not even an option in my mind, but considering how some of the posts in this thread are going, I'm positive that I'm very lucky that it wasn't me swallowing a bullet!

I was never a road player, so all of my gambling has primarily been with other locals, and because we know each other, the chances of it getting violent are very slim.

However, I have played a couple of out of towner's. One that you all know about, and another one also early in my gambling days that I lost a couple of hundred to. Apart from that, I've gambled with some out in Vegas at the Nationals of APA and BCA tournaments. I've been very fortunate to have won much more than I lost, but never had the experiences or situations that others in here have gone thru because I was never a road player.

Those are the stories I long to hear about.
 
Thanks for the friend requests, I appreciate all of you for taking the time to visit this thread, sharing your stories, and all the greenies that you have sent my way.

Even those of you that have been less than cordial with me. :frown: I appreciate the fact that you even visited and read the story. I sent you guys greenies for sharing your thoughts!:thumbup:

It's been a learning experience having seen the different types of reactions that I've gotten to my original post. I must say that for every one person that is critical, there are 5 that are supportive. I thought that this would be the last thread that I would ever start, but the number of good people on this forum far out number the ones that are not very kind.

I welcome any and all friend requests.

Thanks!
 
the good thing . . .

Great story!

I'm very reluctant to share this story but seeing the support that most of you have given me, I feel I must. Plus it kind of ties in with your story of an angry wife.

I played a guy in league, and he was so upset that I beat him that he challenged me to play after. His wife started telling him that he better not lose that money because they needed it, but he insisted to her that he could beat me.

When she came out, a friend told her that her husband had left and so she started to cry some more. I felt horrible at how things went, so I went up to her and gave her all the money back. I also told her to not say anything to her husband about me giving her back the money.

Who knows maybe they pulled a fast one on me, but to me it seemed all too real.

I've won and lost a lot of money gambling, but regardless of how much money I've won, nothing has ever made me feel better than giving that woman that money back.

That is a sad story! The good news is that bent pins are easily straightened or replaced so the cue was pretty easily repairable on a lathe. :grin: I have told a similar story not too long ago. Plucked a guy like a chicken then went outside and found his wife and baby sitting in the car in the cold where they had been for a couple of hours. Made me wonder how many of the guys, even the jerks that I had especially enjoyed busting, had family. I still gambled and busted a lot of people after that but it was no longer my goal to bust everybody I hooked up gambling with. For a couple years it had barely counted as a win if the other player didn't leave busted and disgusted.

I never spent much time on the road myself but I was known to a few road players and somebody was steering them at me from Greenway. While several road players admitted they had been steered from Greenway after we played none ever told me who was doing the steering so I never knew if the steerer was a friend or somebody holding a grudge against me. :confused: It didn't really matter, I was pretty strong on my home turf and few that came looking went away happy.

Hu
 
The good news is that bent pins are easily straightened or replaced so the cue was pretty easily repairable on a lathe.

That is good to know. I heard him yelling at his wife that she bent the pin on the cue and now it was worthless and just assumed that a bent pin was a cue death sentence.

That is the only time I've come across that situation and since I've never had a bent pin, I've never had to look into it. But thanks, because now I don't have to look into it and if I should happen to get one, I can just take it to my buddy Dave Bollman and he can fix it!!

As a matter of fact, another buddy of mine was going to throw away an OLD Meucci original and I told him that I would buy it from him cheap. I think I bought it for like $20 bucks. He wasn't a die hard of the game, in fact it was a friend that I played softball with. But I think I still have that in one of my cases. I will find it, take it to Dave and have him fix it. I will never play with a Meucci EVER again in my life (no offense to those that play with them), but it's nice to have because it's so old.
 
...He asks me if I play in any league and I tell him that I play in an APA league. He asks me my rating and I tell him that I'm a 5. He tells me he's from Des Moines, IA and that he's a 5 as well, but that I'm still better than him and asks for a "spot". Being that I have never done any real gambling, I ask him what a "spot" is.

Did anyone else see the humor in the above? He doesn't know what a spot is but plays in the league of the spot, the APA league :grin::thumbup:.

I don't care if this happened or not, but I enjoyed the read and the responses - I can't believe nobody saw the irony of the 'not knowing about spots but playing in the APA'. I cracked up when I read it. (if someone already mentioned it I apologize).

Rep coming to the original poster for taking the time write it and sharing & and some of the great responses.

Dave
 
LOL! Actually, out of the $2900 that I walked out with, most of it went to paying off an old Kawasaki Ninja 600 RX that I had bought from a friend using a loan from a company called Pioneer. I don't ever recommend them to anyone. They specialized on military member loans at a mere 21% interest. That only left a little bit, and the wife got that!

The guy was so pissed off that he didn't stick around. I didn't know what to do. He was rightfully upset cursing at me and the only thing I was thinking at the time was how I was going to put this guy down if he attacked me!

Great! I'm sure my answer will invite more criticism! Let me have it! I probably should have held on to it until he was able to win every dime of it back, but that is not what happened! I was only there to give him a chance to win his money back and when he left, so did I!

Since it was the next day and the other guy wouldn't back out of the deal, you could have offered the guy the money you made off the cue minus the $600 or keep a little more for the jelly for all the hassle. There are options of how to handle a situation like this, this is just one possibility. But no worries either way.

Dave
 
Did anyone else see the humor in the above? He doesn't know what a spot is but plays in the league of the spot, the APA league :grin::thumbup:.

I don't care if this happened or not, but I enjoyed the read and the responses - I can't believe nobody saw the irony of the 'not knowing about spots but playing in the APA'. I cracked up when I read it. (if someone already mentioned it I apologize).

Rep coming to the original poster for taking the time write it and sharing & and some of the great responses.

Dave

Hahaha! You know, I never really thought about it. But I guess I didn't know what a "spot" meant when in terms of gambling. When you're used to playing for a $1 or $2 per game, there's not really much of a spot to be used. Of course I knew that if I was playing a 4 in league that he raced to 3 and I raced to 4. In that area, I remember all the matches being called "races". You know like "It's a 4 to 3 race".

Good one!
 
Since it was the next day and the other guy wouldn't back out of the deal, you could have offered the guy the money you made off the cue minus the $600 or keep a little more for the jelly for all the hassle. There are options of how to handle a situation like this, this is just one possibility. But no worries either way.

Dave


There are many ways that I could have made that whole situation right. Unfortunately at that time I didn't or couldn't think of any. I was so sure the guy was going to get physical, that I just prepared for that. He just kept yelling and stormed out.

Knowing what I know now, I wish I would run into the guy again so that I could apologize and at least make an attempt to make things right. But at the very least apologize for how things went. Problem was that at that time, I didn't know that I was wrong.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate you taking the time to read the thread, all of it's postings and the rep.
 
I like your threads, well at least I like looking at you pictures :). I'm sure it's someone I should know, but who is she?

Dave
 
I like your threads, well at least I like looking at you pictures :). I'm sure it's someone I should know, but who is she?

Dave

That my friend is the beautiful and sexy Yu Ram Cha. There are many beautiful and skilled female pool players, but when I saw Yu Ram Cha, she went straight to the top of my hottest of the hot lists.

Personally, I don't think there was anything wrong with what the OP did in his story. I liked the story and believe he understood the cue to be his in leiu of payment. I back those who say it was the losers fault for gambling money he didn't have. Heck, Brozif didn't even want to run up the bet that high in the first place.
 
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