What sets the market price for a cue?

Hungarian

Hungarian

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Funny thing is I scroll though the For Sale section all the time. And when I see a Dufferin house cue conversion done by Searing for sale for $3,000 I just laugh. I can understand the art thing but $3,000 for a sneaky pete.

I just wonder who actually buys these things?

Give me a break...

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Market price is set by the market. I can sell a #2 pencil for $100, but if no one buys it, it's not worth that.

If there are more people willing to buy at a given price than what is available then it is worth more and vice versa for less.

If someone pays $3,000 for the Searing then it was worth that, if not then not. There is also a saturation of the market right now. Many more sellers than buyers. I have seen a lot of nice cues not selling and continually being price cut.

It seems that if you're not willing to give someone a good deal you will more than likely be keeping your stuff for now.
 
Hungarian Nut said:
Funny thing is I scroll though the For Sale section all the time. And when I see a Dufferin house cue conversion done by Searing for sale for $3,000 I just laugh. I can understand the art thing but $3,000 for a sneaky pete.

I just wonder who actually buys these things?

Give me a break...

See thread below...

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=250726
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Not a cool post at all. Who are you to talk crap about his cue sale? As a general question this is fine but linking something that somebody is trying to sell is bullcrap.
 
TheNewSharkster said:
Not a cool post at all. Who are you to talk crap about his cue sale? As a general question this is fine but linking something that somebody is trying to sell is bullcrap.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with it, as far as I am concerned. He could have done it on the for sale forum, but elected to do it here.

Chris
 
TheNewSharkster said:
Not a cool post at all. Who are you to talk crap about his cue sale? As a general question this is fine but linking something that somebody is trying to sell is bullcrap.
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Agree completely. #1 rule on the For Sale forum is don't s**t on someone else's sale. OP, picture yourself trying to sell something and someone chimes in with that kind of post--how would you like it?
 
hdgis1 said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with it, as far as I am concerned. He could have done it on the for sale forum, but elected to do it here.

Chris
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People that frequent the Wanted/For Sales board also come to this board so that point is moot. At the end of the day it is just basic manners that the OP ignored
 
The point is, in fact, not moot. He is abiding by the rules of the forum and posted his comments in the appropriate place. He is allowed his opinion and chose to post it. Nothing wrong with that. What fear do people have about people criticizing the prices they post? Are they afraid they might be called out on the absurdity?

Chris

TheNewSharkster said:
People that frequent the Wanted/For Sales board also come to this board so that point is moot. At the end of the day it is just basic manners that the OP ignored
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The cue market is supply and demand at its finest. You can price it for whatever you want but if the demand is not there you will keep it. Searing's work is very fine work but no more so than a good number of other top cue makers who actually make cues on a regular basis and don't try to charge out of line numbers. The key to Searing's prices is you can't get one and there are a good number of people who think they really need one for their collection. It's similar to Cuban cigars people will pay a premium for them but the truth is the best cigars in the world come from the Dominican Republic and Honduras, but you can't to the local shop and buy the Cubans.
 
hdgis1 said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with it, as far as I am concerned. He could have done it on the for sale forum, but elected to do it here.

Chris
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Actually.....that is incorrect. Read the W/FS Forum Rules...you may not make any type of derogatory reference to asking price, within a W/FS thread. A seller can ask whatever they wish...doesn't mean they're going to get it.

As long as you have proof....you can make mention as to any knowledge as to true condition, repairs, or scam...but that's pretty much it.

You are, however, free to start another thread wishing to discuss any given cue or seller or maker, in the appropriate forum.

Lisa
 
hdgis1 said:
The point is, in fact, not moot. He is abiding by the rules of the forum and posted his comments in the appropriate place. He is allowed his opinion and chose to post it. Nothing wrong with that. What fear do people have about people criticizing the prices they post? Are they afraid they might be called out on the absurdity?

Chris
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One reason for the rule is to prevent issues that were here in the past....someone posting a cue or case for sale, and someone else posting in the same thread that they have the same/similar cue or case available at a lesser price. That is definitely NOT cool.

While I realize the above may be viewed as someone offering up 'helpful' information to save money...when in reality, the interloper is just looking to make a buck off of someone else's FS thread.

At some point.....buyers AND sellers MUST take some responsibility for knowing their product, what the general value is, and the trustworthiness of the seller/buyer. While many, many, many members here are willing to share their knowledge with newer members...they simply cannot hand-hold someone throughout the entire process.

I have said it before, and will say it again: Do Your Research.

Lisa
 
spktur said:
The cue market is supply and demand at its finest. You can price it for whatever you want but if the demand is not there you will keep it. Searing's work is very fine work but no more so than a good number of other top cue makers who actually make cues on a regular basis and don't try to charge out of line numbers. The key to Searing's prices is you can't get one and there are a good number of people who think they really need one for their collection. It's similar to Cuban cigars people will pay a premium for them but the truth is the best cigars in the world come from the Dominican Republic and Honduras, but you can't to the local shop and buy the Cubans.
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Perfect explanation!!! I liken it to trying to keep up with the Jones'. Those who can, will....others are just happy to be able to afford any kind of cue, let alone a custom, high-end or otherwise.

Lisa
 
hdgis1 said:
The point is, in fact, not moot. He is abiding by the rules of the forum and posted his comments in the appropriate place. He is allowed his opinion and chose to post it. Nothing wrong with that. What fear do people have about people criticizing the prices they post? Are they afraid they might be called out on the absurdity?

Chris
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It's a good question and one I've pondered a lot. Strikes me the sharks want the right to demand what they like, and the rest of us had better butt out.
 
ridewiththewind said:
One reason for the rule is to prevent issues that were here in the past....someone posting a cue or case for sale, and someone else posting in the same thread that they have the same/similar cue or case available at a lesser price. That is definitely NOT cool.

While I realize the above may be viewed as someone offering up 'helpful' information to save money...when in reality, the interloper is just looking to make a buck off of someone else's FS thread.

At some point.....buyers AND sellers MUST take some responsibility for knowing their product, what the general value is, and the trustworthiness of the seller/buyer. While many, many, many members here are willing to share their knowledge with newer members...they simply cannot hand-hold someone throughout the entire process.

I have said it before, and will say it again: Do Your Research.

Lisa
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That is fine for the many, but what about the few? I have two pool buddies with special needs - one has learning difficulties and one has cerebral palsy. They are both easily impressed and easily tricked - I am constantly keeping the sharks away from them.

Presumably you think they should go unprotected?

I'd like the opportunity to criticise a sale. I see unwanted production cues being offered for more than retail. This is absurd. The seller is taking the piss out of us, and we do nothing. I'd like iTrader improved, with an ebay style ratings system, where sellers that trade honestly and fairly get a higher rating than those that waste everyone's time with unrealistically high prices. Failing this, I make a note of sellers who impress me and look out for their goods first. I choose the seller as much as the cue. Sellers with the fewest bumps between listing and sales get my vote - Bamacues is particularly quick to sell cues, and for good reason.
 
Hungarian Nut said:
Funny thing is I scroll though the For Sale section all the time. And when I see a Dufferin house cue conversion done by Searing for sale for $3,000 I just laugh. I can understand the art thing but $3,000 for a sneaky pete.

I just wonder who actually buys these things?

Give me a break...

See thread below...

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=250726
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I can't understand it either, but all of the bridges at Hank's Billiards made
from old Dufferin house cues must we worth a fortune
 
I didnt mean he literally could. Just meant he could have been like many others and ignored the rules and gone ahead with it.

Chris
ridewiththewind said:
Actually.....that is incorrect. Read the W/FS Forum Rules...you may not make any type of derogatory reference to asking price, within a W/FS thread. A seller can ask whatever they wish...doesn't mean they're going to get it.

As long as you have proof....you can make mention as to any knowledge as to true condition, repairs, or scam...but that's pretty much it.

You are, however, free to start another thread wishing to discuss any given cue or seller or maker, in the appropriate forum.

Lisa
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