Beware of Dealing with Member calibration aka Cal Smith

Fast Lenny

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Well its another thread but fortunately not as bad as the rip off ones I have seen posted. On March 25th member calibration messaged me with interest in a cue and after some PMs back in forth he asked for payment info and wanted to close a deal on the 26th. I gave him my name/address for payment by check on a $600 cue, he replied on the 28th that he was mailing my check out this afternoon and I got his address and packed the cue up for him to have it ready to go. He replies a couple days later asking for a free DVD of Power One Pocket to be included since he did not beat me up too much on the price, I am okay with that and say sure no problem.

I waited around a week and still no check, I message Cal to see if it was on its way and he replied a cue deal fell through and he was trying to pull funds together. That made me a bit unhappy because he said he was mailing it that afternoon on the 28th and never messaged me again stating something happened. So I figured I would give it some time and see if he would make good on our deal and around a week passes and I message him on the April 8th to see if he has sent payment or when he would and I get no reply but Cal was online a couple times so he saw my messages.

I then let him know yesterday via PM how unhappy I was for waiting 2 weeks and how its bad business to not make payment when you say your sending something and also not communicating about the problem. I have had others who have said they were going to purchase something and commit to buying and then back out and frankly I am sick of it so if you do then I am leaving you a negative iTrader as I have done with Cal aka calibration and let people know about it.

Don't waste peoples time and if something comes up then let the person know and communicate letting them know the situation, I am an understanding person and if he told me a day or 2 later that another cue deal fell through and apologized then I would have been disappointed but understanding instead of being strung along for 2 weeks and ignored. I was pissed about waiting for a week before being told he was trying to pull funds together and I was only told that because I had PMed him asking about the payment, if I did not then I doubt he would have messaged me and since then no communication.

I gave a solid 2 weeks for payment and trying to resolve things and you do not handle things by just ignoring them or blowing it off. Other people who were interested will see that the cue is back for sale but I am sure I still lost a real buyer because of them thinking its sold and 2 weeks passing. I apologize to those who wanted to actually purchase the cue. For those out there who do this to good sellers on here, its bad business period. :cool:
 
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I can relate to your frustration, it happened to me here on a trade deal. If i hadnt pm'd before i shipped i might have lost a cue. GLWS.
 
His ears must have been ringing because I just got his PM while I was posting this thread. The other cue was lowered $100 due to shaft issues, his cue was $600 and the other cue was $500. Nice how he tries to turn it around talking about me lowering a price a $100 on the other cue and how it did not make him jump on it, you jumped on it when you said you wanted to close the deal and the check was going out that afternoon making me wait 2 weeks. When you say your going to buy something and are sending payment then follow through, don't be a deadbeat buyer and just because your 2 buyers pulled up does not make it right for you to do so also.

calibration said:
I apoligize for the delay. Funds are what they are I had 2 buyers pull out as well. But to tell you something else, it didnt make me jump on it cause I saw you lowered the price drastically on the other cue. This would only hurt me on the resale market, you know..... If you have a buyer please do not wait for me.

Cal
 
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Good words FastLenny.I totally agree.Good post.


If you buy something,pay for it! If you can't complete the deal,let the other person (seller) know.

Thanks.Marc
 
Isn't the cue business great? If I had a dollar for every customer that asked me to hold a cue for them till they got paid, got their income tax refund, won the lottery....etc etc....I would be living on an island in the Caribbean.
 
Isn't the cue business great? If I had a dollar for every customer that asked me to hold a cue for them till they got paid, got their income tax refund, won the lottery....etc etc....I would be living on an island in the Caribbean.

Haha, so true but I feel there are more dead beat buyers then cue ripoffs on here but we just do not hear about them. So from now on when someone does this then just out them and leave the negative iTrader, its what its there for. Might stop all the tip pickers out there who do this.
 
What do you know Lenny, you only got 173 iTraders at 100% ??

:D :D :D :D

Seriously, this crap happens all the time.

People.... its really easy, just like in a relationship......

COMMUNICATION IS KEY!!!!!!!!!!
 
Isn't the cue business great? If I had a dollar for every customer that asked me to hold a cue for them till they got paid, got their income tax refund, won the lottery....etc etc....I would be living on an island in the Caribbean.


No, you'd have a DOLLAR, :D If you had a dollar for EACH, you might have a few , or a lot more:D:D


But I certainly agree, DON'T COMMIT TO BUY IF YOU AIN'T GONNA DO IT:angry::angry:
 
What do you know Lenny, you only got 173 iTraders at 100% ??

:D :D :D :D

Seriously, this crap happens all the time.

People.... its really easy, just like in a relationship......

COMMUNICATION IS KEY!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, your gaining on me bud with the iTraders. :smile:
 
Fast Lenny be happy you did not sent the Cue, and have to problem like:

It did not Arrive.

PayPal Dispute.

Lost by Post Office.
 
Well its another thread but fortunately not as bad as the rip off ones I have seen posted. On March 25th member calibration messaged me with interest in a cue and after some PMs back in forth he asked for payment info and wanted to close a deal on the 26th. I gave him my name/address for payment by check on a $600 cue, he replied on the 28th that he was mailing my check out this afternoon and I got his address and packed the cue up for him to have it ready to go. He replies a couple days later asking for a free DVD of Power One Pocket to be included since he did not beat me up too much on the price, I am okay with that and say sure no problem.

I waited around a week and still no check, I message Cal to see if it was on its way and he replied a cue deal fell through and he was trying to pull funds together. That made me a bit unhappy because he said he was mailing it that afternoon on the 28th and never messaged me again stating something happened. So I figured I would give it some time and see if he would make good on our deal and around a week passes and I message him on the April 8th to see if he has sent payment or when he would and I get no reply but Cal was online a couple times so he saw my messages.

I then let him know yesterday via PM how unhappy I was for waiting 2 weeks and how its bad business to not make payment when you say your sending something and also not communicating about the problem. I have had others who have said they were going to purchase something and commit to buying and then back out and frankly I am sick of it so if you do then I am leaving you a negative iTrader as I have done with Cal aka calibration and let people know about it.

Don't waste peoples time and if something comes up then let the person know and communicate letting them know the situation, I am an understanding person and if he told me a day or 2 later that another cue deal fell through and apologized then I would have been disappointed but understanding instead of being strung along for 2 weeks and ignored. I was pissed about waiting for a week before being told he was trying to pull funds together and I was only told that because I had PMed him asking about the payment, if I did not then I doubt he would have messaged me and since then no communication.

I gave a solid 2 weeks for payment and trying to resolve things and you do not handle things by just ignoring them or blowing it off. Other people who were interested will see that the cue is back for sale but I am sure I still lost a real buyer because of them thinking its sold and 2 weeks passing. I apologize to those who wanted to actually purchase the cue. For those out there who do this to good sellers on here, its bad business period. :cool:


I am still new to this AZ site, although I've been around pool rooms, pool, cues and I have now recently opened a new Pool Room here in PA.

This thing has happened to me twice since I joined in November. Once with a Joss cue, and more recently with the antique pool balls I am selling. People messaging me telling me that they want them, box them up and get them ready, after you agree on price then nothing happens BALLS ARE BOXED UP, READY TO BE SHIPPED....It's annoying....One of the gentleman was actually vouched for by a well respected member of AZ, and he still left me hanging...3 PM'S AND AN EMAIL, STILL NO RESPONSE, YET HE HAS BEEN ONLINE 25 TIMES SINCE HE STOPPED COMMUNICATION.....


BOTTOM LINE>>>IF YOU GIVE YOUR WORD AND TELL THEM YOUR TAKING THE ITEM....ITS JUST LIKE HANDING SOMEONE MONEY...

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO READ THIS....

KEVIN
CORNER POCKET BILLIARDS
 
I am still new to this AZ site, although I've been around pool rooms, pool, cues and I have now recently opened a new Pool Room here in PA.

This thing has happened to me twice since I joined in November. Once with a Joss cue, and more recently with the antique pool balls I am selling. People messaging me telling me that they want them, box them up and get them ready, after you agree on price then nothing happens BALLS ARE BOXED UP, READY TO BE SHIPPED....It's annoying....One of the gentleman was actually vouched for by a well respected member of AZ, and he still left me hanging...3 PM'S AND AN EMAIL, STILL NO RESPONSE, YET HE HAS BEEN ONLINE 25 TIMES SINCE HE STOPPED COMMUNICATION.....


BOTTOM LINE>>>IF YOU GIVE YOUR WORD AND TELL THEM YOUR TAKING THE ITEM....ITS JUST LIKE HANDING SOMEONE MONEY...

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO READ THIS....

KEVIN
CORNER POCKET BILLIARDS
Yeah the cue that I am speaking of is still in the shipping tube with Cal Smiths name on it, haha. I will just put a label over his name when it goes to its new home. :smile:
 
Yeah the cue that I am speaking of is still in the shipping tube with Cal Smiths name on it, haha. I will just put a label over his name when it goes to its new home. :smile:

I WAS THINKING OF EXPOSING THIS GUY TO THE EVERYONE, BUT HE IS A RESPECTED MEMBER OF AZ, AND I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ALOT OF WAVES DUE TO THE FACT I AM NEW TO THIS SITE...

BESIDES, IF HE DID IT ONCE..HE WILL DO IT AGAIN...SO ILL WAIT MY TURN...

ANYWAY, SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR TIME WASTED...BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME...

:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
 
I WAS THINKING OF EXPOSING THIS GUY TO THE EVERYONE, BUT HE IS A RESPECTED MEMBER OF AZ, AND I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ALOT OF WAVES DUE TO THE FACT I AM NEW TO THIS SITE...

BESIDES, IF HE DID IT ONCE..HE WILL DO IT AGAIN...SO ILL WAIT MY TURN...

ANYWAY, SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR TIME WASTED...BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME...

:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

Personally I would out the guy, I used to just bite my tongue and not leave negative iTrader but this stuff makes me sick. If I say I will take it then its sold and I am going to pay for the item, simple as that, I do not like wasting my time which ends up costing me money. :cool:
 
Personally I would out the guy, I used to just bite my tongue and not leave negative iTrader but this stuff makes me sick. If I say I will take it then its sold and I am going to pay for the item, simple as that, I do not like wasting my time which ends up costing me money. :cool:


Here is a follow up...he just bought a cue from another AZ'ER...ant STILL has not answered my PM"s or my emails.......
 
Here is a follow up...he just bought a cue from another AZ'ER...ant STILL has not answered my PM"s or my emails.......

I'm with Lenny on this... spill your guts.
You're not doing anyone a favor by keeping a tight lip... oh wait, your doing him a favor!;)
 
Cal

Sorry to hear about your trouble with Cal. I have had a few deals with Cal and there was never a problem. I dont like hearing about these kind of things happening cause so far for myself the AZ forum and it's members have treated me very well and love being a member. GLWS on your cue.

Jimmy K
 
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