Follow up on Gibson Guitar story.

purchasing may have violated laws intended"
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i usually do not post but this is near and dear. Laws are never (lately) taken for how they were written. These lawmakers are somewhat intelligent and for what they get paid should write what the law is and not what it's intent could be. Laws these days are way too emotional and perhaps need "law shrinks" to determine what their intent today could be.

Gibson should have been warned and a minimal fine given...but to take all that wood and destroy it for the sake of making an example of what...buying some wood they thought was legal. I'm sorry for the ramble.

Jim
 
If anyone thinks for a minute that the wood was destroyed....well, .....regardless of what maybe stated, it has been 'reclaimed' some how, some where. Just like 'illegal' ivory, it will show up somewhere eventually, it never gets destroyed, or held forever in limbo.
There are aucton sites that the goverment will contract to sell it off, and then they keep the proceeds, plus the fines that the 'perps' paid......it's all about the money, IMO.
Dave
 
The Government is returning all the Rosewood fret boards from India. That's the latest info on this case.
 
Joe Barringer said:
The Government is returning all the Rosewood fret boards from India. That's the latest info on this case.
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yeah, but do they mean back to gibson or back to india??????? (couldn't help it joe, i get skeptical of beaurocrats)
 
There is quite a buzz about acoustic players that travel that when confronted when entering our USA (even when claiming the same instrument when leaving) they are asked to prove origin of the wood in their instrument.

Now this could translate to cues too. There is no doubt in my mind that nothing has been destroyed however...most articles I have read lead to nothing more. My question is where is the 4 skids of ebony!!!!!

Thanks for the conversation.......JBC
 
screamingelvis said:
i usually do not post but this is near and dear. Laws are never (lately) taken for how they were written. These lawmakers are somewhat intelligent and for what they get paid should write what the law is and not what it's intent could be. Laws these days are way too emotional and perhaps need "law shrinks" to determine what their intent today could be.

Gibson should have been warned and a minimal fine given...but to take all that wood and destroy it for the sake of making an example of what...buying some wood they thought was legal. I'm sorry for the ramble.

Jim
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In a sense they were, this goes back to 2006 when they came on the radar. They knew what they were doing was illegal and even admitted to it and now to fake indignation is typical. Screw them.
 
cutter said:
Got to love the Gov.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZCqXmYZro&feature=related
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That whole story is nothing but propaganda and is very biased as far as I'm concerned. Like the news caster stated, The CEO or whomever is a staunch republican whom donates a lot of money to the republican party and here he is trying to blame the democrats and Obama for themselves getting caught breaking the law.

Many countries have the same stipulations about exporting there natural resources out of the country without having any benefits for their own workers. I'm sure that India doesn't make them do all of the processing on those finger boards in India. Many countries process the wood and such in just a slight way so as to satisfy their exportation laws but it sure helps the story in blaming Obama for sending work out of the country. I just lost a lot of respect for Gibson myself.

Maybe the speeder who got a ticket for doing 95 in a 50 mph zone only received it because he had an elect Romney sticker on his bumper and not because of the speed.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
That whole story is nothing but propaganda and is very biased as far as I'm concerned. Like the news caster stated, The CEO or whomever is a staunch republican whom donates a lot of money to the republican party and here he is trying to blame the democrats and Obama for themselves getting caught breaking the law.

Many countries have the same stipulations about exporting there natural resources out of the country without having any benefits for their own workers. I'm sure that India doesn't make them do all of the processing on those finger boards in India. Many countries process the wood and such in just a slight way so as to satisfy their exportation laws but it sure helps the story in blaming Obama for sending work out of the country. I just lost a lot of respect for Gibson myself.

Maybe the speeder who got a ticket for doing 95 in a 50 mph zone only received it because he had an elect Romney sticker on his bumper and not because of the speed.

Dick
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I remember back in the 90's when the news that Cocobolo logs were not going to be able to be brought in any longer spread around. So I bought a lot of it then. But the supply never dried up. We just started seeing a lot of really rough cut turning squares. I was told the mills over there had to cut them into turning squares before exporting them. I guess that was the exporting countries way of making sure some labor happened in their own country.
 
Gibson Guitar

Think Attorney General's "Fast & Furious". As far as I'm concerned anything
the Obama administration does is suspect of favortism, corruption or politically
motivated.
 
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