question about SVB's aiming

Actually, Stan, I think you say this because you don't understand.

pj
chgo

Pj,

Since you have such a vast understanding of CTE and CTE PRO ONE, just let me know if you'd like to engage in a live-stream debate. I am willing make a wager that your real understanding of CTE is full of gaps.

You may name the bet!

Stan Shuffett
 
Pj,

Since you have such a vast understanding of CTE and CTE PRO ONE, just let me know if you'd like to engage in a live-stream debate. I am willing make a wager that your real understanding of CTE is full of gaps.

You may name the bet!

Stan Shuffett
If you want to really talk about this, start by telling us how CTE/Pro1 isn't a fractional system or how a fractional system doesn't necessarily have gaps. If you want to avoid talking about it, make silly "challenges".

pj
chgo
 
If you want to really talk about this, start by telling us how CTE/Pro1 isn't a fractional system or how a fractional system doesn't necessarily have gaps. If you want to avoid talking about it, make silly "challenges".

pj
chgo

Pj,

Once again, you show your lack of exposure to my work. Chapter 10 on DVD # 1 explains this to a large degree. I will advance my explanations
concerning this matter on DVD # 2.

I have made no silly challenge. You have proclaimed gaps on numerous occasions concerning my work without evidence, I am merely asking you to debate me publicly on a live-stream if you'd care to.!I am certain beyond any doubt that I can expose your gaps of knowledge concerning CTE PRO ONE and CTE in general. As I said, name the bet.

CTE PRO ONE represents a completely different dimension in aiming when compared to fractions. Are you kidding me? Lol

I have put my work out there! I am in the process of continuing that now. Where's your work to disprove CTE? I am talking about real CTE, something that was never supposed to be.

I will rest my case after DVD # 2.

Stan Shuffett
 
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If you want to really talk about this, start by telling us how CTE/Pro1 isn't a fractional system or how a fractional system doesn't necessarily have gaps. If you want to avoid talking about it, make silly "challenges".

pj
chgo

I do not see any gaps in a fractional system. If you understand, what a fractional system is ment to do, it does exactly that. They are meant to help with alignment positioning and nothing more, it will get you 50% of the way there and you have to find the rest of the way yourself. You really shouldn’t be posting your uninformed opinions on here as “facts”.
 
That's interesting but there are 7 to 8 degrees of angle between each one of those. What about all of the other angles in between each one of them?


If fractions on the OB aiming is viable, then one can use fractions of the ferrule from the edge and center to fill in some of the angles in between the 7 to 8 degrees in the diagram in post #23 i.e., use one quarter of the ferrule to achieve 4 degrees in between etc..:smile:
 
Using the fractions is going to get you and im just guessing around 1/8" away from the actual contact point, something like that.
 
I do not see any gaps in a fractional system.

...

it will get you 50% of the way there and you have to find the rest of the way yourself.
I don't suppose you see the contradiction in your statements here...?

Maybe you don't know what's meant by "gaps" in this context.

pj
chgo
 
The problem is this, "it is what it is" your perceiving it to be more than what it is meant to be and actually is. For me, a plain fractional system is worthless and not worthy of much discussion at all from advanced pool thinkers like yourself.
 
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I am merely asking you to debate me publicly on a live-stream if you'd care to.!
We're already here talking, Stan - why do we need a change of venue?

As I said, name the bet.
I bet we'll never discuss this in any detail.

By the way, as I've said many times before, gaps are nothing to shy away from - fractional systems work for those who like them.

pj
chgo
 
The problem is this, "it is what it is" your perceiving it to be more than what it is meant to be and actually is.
Take that up with Stan and his customers. I've always said that CTE is more of a preshot routine than an aiming system.

pj
chgo
 
Take that up with Stan and his customers. I've always said that CTE is more of a preshot routine than an aiming system.

pj
chgo

The foundation of Stan shuffett's system, i would say is fractional, but he has really modified the system into an aiming system. I think any successful aiming system has/or should have a base of a fractional system.
 
We're already here talking, Stan - why do we need a change of venue?


I bet we'll never discuss this in any detail.

By the way, as I've said many times before, gaps are nothing to shy away from - fractional systems work for those who like them.

pj
chgo

Well, if you think my details would be lacking then you should jump at an opportunity to debate me concerning CTE and PRO ONE.

I am not trying to stir anything up but I am a little tired of your constant statements about gaps in CTE PRO ONE without evidence or examples.

I am just standing up for what I have come to know.

Happy Holidays, PJ.

Stan Shuffett
 
Take that up with Stan and his customers. I've always said that CTE is more of a preshot routine than an aiming system.

pj
chgo

I use Pro One, so I know's there much we can disagree on, but not this.

To me, aiming would imply being down on the shot and adjusting until we're on the right line. Something that most people would recommend against. I don't think anyone actually aims, rather they just align themselves the best they can.

As for gaps in the "system", I haven't found any yet in the few weeks I've been using it. Any shots that are missed are due to two things

1. Poor stroke
2. Using the wrong secondary aim line. There are some shots where knowing which line to use hasn't been fully ingrained yet.
 
We're already here talking, Stan - why do we need a change of venue?


I bet we'll never discuss this in any detail.

By the way, as I've said many times before, gaps are nothing to shy away from - fractional systems work for those who like them.

pj
chgo

PJ,

We do not need a change of venue. I just offered you a live-stream debate opportunity. That is all.

I am currently organizing my new understandings that I have gained over the past 2 years. And I must say they are quite significant. My work will be out there and I am certain that it will be discussed right here at this venue. I am also fairly certain that you will not study it a bit more than you studied my first work. I am open for a surprise, though.

CTE PRO ONE is here to stay and CTE is going to become much stronger after my next and final wave of work is presented.

I do hope that you will make a sincere study of what I present.

Pure CTE represents a new dimension in aiming and DVD # 2 will show just that.

Stan Shuffett
 
I use Pro One, so I know's there much we can disagree on, but not this.

To me, aiming would imply being down on the shot and adjusting until we're on the right line. Something that most people would recommend against. I don't think anyone actually aims, rather they just align themselves the best they can.

As for gaps in the "system", I haven't found any yet in the few weeks I've been using it. Any shots that are missed are due to two things

1. Poor stroke
2. Using the wrong secondary aim line. There are some shots where knowing which line to use hasn't been fully ingrained yet.

You can have a great stroke and choose the correct secondary line and still miss, trust me :)
 
I use Pro One, so I know's there much we can disagree on
Why is that?

I don't think anyone actually aims, rather they just align themselves the best they can.
What's the difference between "aim" and "align"?

Using the wrong secondary aim line. There are some shots where knowing which line to use hasn't been fully ingrained yet.
This is the part of the system that's learned "by feel".

pj
chgo
 
Why is that?


What's the difference between "aim" and "align"?


This is the part of the system that's learned "by feel".

pj
chgo

Pj, You know so little about CTE. But yet you say this and you say that. You are just so sure that CTE can't be something special. At some point in the future, CTE will be widely proclaimed as aiming that occurs on a different plane or in a new dimension.

Stan Shuffett
 
Why is that?


What's the difference between "aim" and "align"?


This is the part of the system that's learned "by feel".

pj
chgo

To, me the difference between aim and align is aim can really only be done while down on the shot. Staring down the barrel of the cue, if you will. That's just my opinion though.

As for as feel is concerned, you won't hear me say that there is no feel involved in Pro One. What I will say is that like any method, the need to "feel" where to stand and align your body dissipates over time through proper practice.

On the majority of shots, I don't need to feel or fidget around to find the proper alignment. I just stand where I need to be and I can make the shot 100% of the time, provided my fundamentals are correct. It's only on shots that I haven't practiced where I may spend a little extra time finding the correct alignment.
 
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