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firetrain

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Putting a new tip on the wifes cue this weekend.

She is an average player, minimal shape play, decent potter.

Is it any easier to hit a draw and/or stop shot with a softer tip?

I use a Kamui SS but I didnt want to put one on hers if it was going to make things harder on her.
 
Why most women love Elk Masters is a new one on me. I would suggest a laminated tip. Long lasting, and low maintenance. My personal preference, these days, are UlraSkins.
As to tip hardness effecting the action of the cue ball, search for Dr. Dave's work on that subject. :smile:
 
To quote Dr. Dave directly: "Tip hardness should not have a significant or direct effect on the amount of english that can be applied."

It's also been my experience that a hard tip will draw (or take the spin of any other type of stroke) just as well as a softer one.

I would even go further and say you will get a more consistent application of spin with a harder tip because will hold it's shape better and have less surface anomalies.
 
A softer tip makes it a little easier to draw. Soft or Medium should be both ok. More important is for sure the *grip of the tip* so the tip holds the chalk very well.
 
If she is a regular player, I'm not sure why you'd put anything other than a laminate - just need to decide how she likes it - hard, medium, or soft

(sorry for the double entendre but it was just too easy)
 
Ratta said:
A softer tip makes it a little easier to draw. Soft or Medium should be both ok. More important is for sure the *grip of the tip* so the tip holds the chalk very well.
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This is false why do people keep repeating this myth?
 
firetrain said:
Putting a new tip on the wifes cue this weekend.

She is an average player, minimal shape play, decent potter.

Is it any easier to hit a draw and/or stop shot with a softer tip?

I use a Kamui SS but I didnt want to put one on hers if it was going to make things harder on her.
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:wink:

My girl likes it hard....
 
Ratta said:
A softer tip makes it a little easier to draw. Soft or Medium should be both ok. More important is for sure the *grip of the tip* so the tip holds the chalk very well.
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Mr.Ratta, Im always open to new thinking so please fill me in on your thoughts about tip hardness and applying English or draw. I think your completely wrong based on my own research, but Ive been wrong before. Ive read a lot of your post and I think you usually have some sound ideas usually based on solid fact. Im old enough to know that I may be the one that is completely wrong, but I don't think so. Enlighten us o wise one.
Respectfully yours
J-Flo
 
I suspect the notion of a softer tip imparting more spin is a matter of "feel"; not physics.

The feel has a strong correlation with confidence.

While it might not be physics, the confidence that comes from positive feedback will effect a player's shot.

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Can you get more spin with a soft tip?

If you believe you can, you will.
 
Here's my $0.02 humble opinion.

While any properly chalked tip can put sufficient spin on the CB, there is a thing called spin to speed ratio. A hard tip puts its force on the ball for a shorter time than a soft tip if the force is equal.

It is easier to put more spin to speed on a cue ball with a softer tip than a hard one given the same stroke. Note I said stroke not force & keep in mind that I am not talking about spin alone but spin to speed ratio.

That being said, if one maxed out their cue speed say like on a break shot the hard tip would probably put more spin on the CB but with more speed attached to it than the softer tip.

It is similiar IMHO to the string tension of a tennis racket. With a soft strung racket the ball stays on the strings longer than a tightly strung racket and therefore can put more spin on a tennis ball than a tightly strung racket with the exact same stroke.

Golf shafts are simliar in getting the most force out of a certain speed swing.

Golf club shafts & tennis string tension are fitted to the player. Why not cue tips.

I have been using very soft Elk Masters & Brunswick Blue Diamonds for 46 years & now have a Kamui SS.

The reason is that I feel I can always add CB speed when I want it but getting a high spin to 'slow' speed is a bit more difficult to get & the soft tip makes that easier IMHO.

So, as to the tip for the wife, I think it woud depend on her stroke. Is she a Jean Baluka type or a 4'10" type. Can she add power when she needs or wants. A medium tip might be the way to go if one is not sure just what one wants or needs. From there a modification can be made.

I hope this helps & do not have any high speed video to support my opinions, just 46 years of playing time.
 
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