Old Man Cheated
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Well Im dieing to hear your reason to replay a match after the tds boyfriend lost but Im going to sleep after Bar Rescue is over.
OMG where to start! I can't believe some of your guys comments. Jumping on Peteys side before you hear the truth, lmfao! So you all know, Petey wasn't even there for one night of the tournament, I was. He didn't even come up there to meet a fellow azer Saturday or Sunday, I did. I love how you throw in old man every sentence to keep the piddy party on your side. I'm sorry your father in law(that's right family member) lost his free ride but he was busted. A 3 Petey??? For real Petey??? To give you azer's a idea of this 3, I am a 8 in 9ball APA and a 7 in 8 ball, I'm also a 8 out of 10 in BCA. When I play Goochy(old man) He's a ball below me and still beats me half the times we played. Gooch is a great player and better than a f"ing 3. Megan gave him a chance to be honest and she made him a 3 based on the fact he told her he hasn't played on any leagues but, after he was turned in by 4 players non local, he was on the radar, in fact, Gooch played BCA and was last ranked a 8 out of 10, BUSTED. Petey, can I please state Goochys real name so a neutral party can look up his BCA handicap??? ANOTHER LIE is Megan and Gatlin have absolutely nothing to do with each other and she is in love with a young fellow named Brooks up there. So, we are on 2 lies Petey. 3rd lie, The first match between Goochy (a 3) and Gatlin (a 9) and not dating Megan) went 7-3, for Goochy (not hill-hill as stated by Petey)and he was reported. That's when someone said he was a 7 or 8 in BCA and he was looked up on BCA's site and sho nuff, he was a 8 out of 10 and ranked 7th in the North myrtle beach area. Any neutral party willing to look this up please PM me and I'll submit his name if Petey won't. At the time they looked this up, Goochy had left so in the morning, they gave him the option to replay or forfeit, that's what they did at Grady Mathews Tournaments and that's what Megan thought was fair for the 2 players involved instead of both of them being out. The 2nd match( Replay) was won 7-5 by Gatlin (a9)(And still not sleeping with Megan) against Goochy (a 5 now). Sorry your family member and race horse got busted but you know that man isn't a 3. I would've been a 6 in this tournament and i'd bet the farm he would have beaten me hill-hill. As far as Megans character, she has run plenty of tournaments at Brass taps in Raleigh NC and works very hard to keep pool on the map. She is such an awesome person that I'm going to get suspended on here for saying, GO F yourself for jumping her ass because you believed someone on here that wasn't even f'ing there and posted this false and fake chit! You all owe her an apology because after every player congratulated her on a huge and great tournament, she was soooo proud of herself and then she reads this total POS thread and it destroyed her. Petey you are a POS for starting this thread off of what your buddys told you. 3 players were bumped up this weekend, this was her first tournament at STB with alot of new players (70 total) and all she had to go off of was there word. Some got busted and some fell through the cracks, it happens. The winner of $1250 was ranked a 6 and was 78 years old, the runner up was also a 6 and no one said nothing about there ranking. Shannon and Marge will vouch for Megan's character and how awesome and hard working she is. Petey, your rep on here should be destroyed for posting this crap, sore losers! Keep posting more of this chit because Brent(Owner of STB) isn't taking this lightly. You guys ***** and moan about every little thing we do up there and you still come back??? WTF? You guys can still believe whatever you want to, that's your choice and right but, this is total BS! I'll prove whatever I can too you. Anyone know Shannon, Marge or someone at BCA that wants to privately talk to them about these false accusations, please do so to help out. I honestly believe Goochy is a strong 4 weak 5 in this tournament but, after he was busted, Megan had no choice but to bump him all the way, how was she to know how he really played after the way he shot? Long story short, player got busted, bumped up and did not like it. Goochy, I am in no way am talking bad about you if you read this and I've always liked you and respected your game. Megan and Jamie, Great job this weekend and I'm so sorry you had to read this crap! Petey said everything I say is gonna be a lie? I was there Fri, Sat and Sunday night, Petey wasn't there at all! Period. He's going of of total hearsay. Ron
You're funny new guy, read! Your apology is accepted.
WOW! Once again, MEGAN AND GATLIN HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER! Old Man was turned in by other players before Gatlins match and reported again. WTF is wrong with you people? Guilty until proven innocent! Just believe Petey, I don't care, you guys already became judge and jury. I guess you guys won't be back in Petey? Sorry, we will miss you.
She's to upset to respond tonight, you'll hear her side tomorrow, I'm sure.
Thank you for waiting for both sides before jumping the gun. Classy!
Your other buddy and race horse???
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Once again, NOT DATING, lmao!
Once again, They are not dating!!!!! She is with a guy named Brooks. ask Shannon and Marge on here! :angry:
Thank you JB and sorry. I just got home and typed as fast as I could. I had freinds in town and hanging out at Shore Thing with a fellow Azer. My apologies for the loooong sentence, Ron
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No one was raising hell other than you group of players because Gatlin and Megan aren't even close to being a couple. Where are you getting this $hit from? Oh yea, your posse. Well it's 100% $hit and i'm sure megans real boyfriend would love to tell you that.
my gawd, thank you!!!!!!!!
Gatlin, a 9 was put out by your Father in law, a 3 supposed to be a 4 as you clearly state and no one stated that when he signed up! He beat a 9 by a score of 7-3 not hill-hill.
No offense but the score is not relevant. So if I play Earl Strickland once and happen to beat him by a few games, does that mean I am better than the ranking I claim? Anyone could win a given match. I am just saying this based on taking the score & comparing it to not being accurately ranked.
As far as whether he cheated or not, if he did, he should be called out on it. However it still does not change the fact you can't go retroactively playing matches again after someone has been eliminated. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Its very relevant if you're a 3, 4, 5 or six and Earl is breaking and running and so are you and you beat him, you need to move up. Now if you are low ranked and Earl is shooting badly and leaving you a 3 ball out every game, than no, you shouldn't be moved up.
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Hi, My name is Megan Royal, and I am the tournament director for the tournament that is being talked about in this post at Shore Thing Billiards.
I think that this is the prime example of typical pool player crying, and it is unfortunate that people that read this start off thinking it is truth as if it is coming from the horse's mouth and 100% honest.
The 73 year old man in question?!? He and his son-in-law represented his ability as total novice, during one of my weekly 9 ball tournaments. The exact date was February 1st, 2013. (I keep excellent records of when all players start playing in my tournaments, and why I ranked them the skill level they are) The man and his son-in-law told me that he didn't really play competitively at all, and didn't give me any league handicap for him. Ask any new player that enters Shore Thing Billiards for my tournaments and they will tell you that the first question I ask is "do you play any leagues?"
So, accepting the word of a player that had played in several events that I have played in, and respect (GSBT) I handicapped this unassuming older gentleman at a 3. He didn't advance to the paid out spots of the weekly tournament he participated in, so when he and his son-in-law showed up for my added $1,000 tournament, I entered him as a skill level 3. He lost his first match-up to a player that was a skill level 11 (this format hosted skill levels 1 thru 12). His second match was against another skill level 3. This opponent played in the mini-tournament the night before, and was a player that I knew their ACCURATE handicap from another in-house tournament format that I was familiar with and could equate to mine. He won this match, and it was not a close one. His next round match-up forfeited. So after advancing, (not my boyfriend) Gatlin loses to him. Racing to 7 with 3 games on the wire and the 7 & 8 called, the player in question wins by a big margin (7-3 not 7-5 as reported above). My first reaction was shock. I play in my format as a level 4, and I do not think I could beat Gatlin with that game, so I questioned the skill level of the older gentleman. The owner of STB is a BCA league operator and knew that the man played BCA. After pulling up the last sessions stats, I found out that his BCA handicap out of 10 was an 8. He was ranked in the top 10 of his league.
I NEVER would agree to play a BCA 8 as a 3 in my weekly tournament or our 2 day tournament.
The match in question was the final match of day 1, and by the time I had all the REAL information on the player in question, he had already left to go home. Unfortunately, I had no contact number or email for the gentleman so the only option I had was to inform Gatlin that he was going to replay his match the next day, as he was still in the poolroom.
I informed the player in question that he was going to replay his previous match at a higher skill level the following day, when he arrived. This is my policy, and I am not the only tournament director that plays the match over.
The gentleman said that he accepted his new skill level, and wasn't upset that he was going up in handicap, but he didn't agree with playing the previous match again.
However, the tournament directors' policies are what governs every tournament and mine include replaying matches at a different skill level when I believe the current one is unfair.
Thank you for reading all sides of the story before jumping to the conclusion that STB and myself are categorized with the other shady poolrooms, owners, and directors.
This weekend we paid out more cash that any other tournament with like entry fees I have ever heard of, only taking $5 greens fees, adding $1,000 guaranteed, and auctioning players twice at the full field and the final 24. With both auctions and tournament payout, 1st place stood to take home $2,700.
The winner was 78 years old.
Feel free to private message me, email me, or call me (since my contact information was already shared above) for the name of the gentleman so you all can see his true BCA handicap in person. (hard to deny)
Thank you, again.
Hi, My name is Megan Royal, and I am the tournament director for the tournament that is being talked about in this post at Shore Thing Billiards.
I think that this is the prime example of typical pool player crying, and it is unfortunate that people that read this start off thinking it is truth as if it is coming from the horse's mouth and 100% honest.
The 73 year old man in question?!? He and his son-in-law represented his ability as total novice, during one of my weekly 9 ball tournaments. The exact date was February 1st, 2013. (I keep excellent records of when all players start playing in my tournaments, and why I ranked them the skill level they are) The man and his son-in-law told me that he didn't really play competitively at all, and didn't give me any league handicap for him. Ask any new player that enters Shore Thing Billiards for my tournaments and they will tell you that the first question I ask is "do you play any leagues?"
So, accepting the word of a player that had played in several events that I have played in, and respect (GSBT) I handicapped this unassuming older gentleman at a 3. He didn't advance to the paid out spots of the weekly tournament he participated in, so when he and his son-in-law showed up for my added $1,000 tournament, I entered him as a skill level 3. He lost his first match-up to a player that was a skill level 11 (this format hosted skill levels 1 thru 12). His second match was against another skill level 3. This opponent played in the mini-tournament the night before, and was a player that I knew their ACCURATE handicap from another in-house tournament format that I was familiar with and could equate to mine. He won this match, and it was not a close one. His next round match-up forfeited. So after advancing, (not my boyfriend) Gatlin loses to him. Racing to 7 with 3 games on the wire and the 7 & 8 called, the player in question wins by a big margin (7-3 not 7-5 as reported above). My first reaction was shock. I play in my format as a level 4, and I do not think I could beat Gatlin with that game, so I questioned the skill level of the older gentleman. The owner of STB is a BCA league operator and knew that the man played BCA. After pulling up the last sessions stats, I found out that his BCA handicap out of 10 was an 8. He was ranked in the top 10 of his league.
I NEVER would agree to play a BCA 8 as a 3 in my weekly tournament or our 2 day tournament.
The match in question was the final match of day 1, and by the time I had all the REAL information on the player in question, he had already left to go home. Unfortunately, I had no contact number or email for the gentleman so the only option I had was to inform Gatlin that he was going to replay his match the next day, as he was still in the poolroom.
I informed the player in question that he was going to replay his previous match at a higher skill level the following day, when he arrived. This is my policy, and I am not the only tournament director that plays the match over.
The gentleman said that he accepted his new skill level, and wasn't upset that he was going up in handicap, but he didn't agree with playing the previous match again.
However, the tournament directors' policies are what governs every tournament and mine include replaying matches at a different skill level when I believe the current one is unfair.
Thank you for reading all sides of the story before jumping to the conclusion that STB and myself are categorized with the other shady poolrooms, owners, and directors.
This weekend we paid out more cash that any other tournament with like entry fees I have ever heard of, only taking $5 greens fees, adding $1,000 guaranteed, and auctioning players twice at the full field and the final 24. With both auctions and tournament payout, 1st place stood to take home $2,700.
The winner was 78 years old.
Feel free to private message me, email me, or call me (since my contact information was already shared above) for the name of the gentleman so you all can see his true BCA handicap in person. (hard to deny)
Thank you, again.
This is a very good reason that I have always had the policy that strangers start out with a high handicap unless their ability is known to be above the default handicap.
IF a stranger is ASKED what their ranking in league is and they say that they don't have one or otherwise fudge it then I either bar them or raise them to the highest handicap.
The fault here IMO lies with both parties, the player who allowed himself to be put in lower than he should and the TD who put him in lower than he should have been put in.
That said unless it was specifically stated at the beginning that handicaps could be revised at any time I wouldn't have raised him up.
I personally think you can't be that fluid, it's not fair to the people who got beat at the lower handicap. You have to have a policy and stick to it throughout the event.
My default would be if you can't PROVE your level to my satisfaction then you're going in at a high rating. If you want to continue in my events then your rating will settle to where it should be.
John - has run many successful handicapped tournaments.
IF a stranger is ASKED what their ranking in league is and they say that they don't have one or otherwise fudge it then I either bar them or raise them to the highest handicap.
The fault here IMO lies with both parties, the player who allowed himself to be put in lower than he should and the TD who put him in lower than he should have been put in.
That said unless it was specifically stated at the beginning that handicaps could be revised at any time I wouldn't have raised him up.
I personally think you can't be that fluid, it's not fair to the people who got beat at the lower handicap. You have to have a policy and stick to it throughout the event.
My default would be if you can't PROVE your level to my satisfaction then you're going in at a high rating. If you want to continue in my events then your rating will settle to where it should be.
John - has run many successful handicapped tournaments.