CTE. "I can see the shot line from here"
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For most shots you can see the required shot line, but going through the CTE Pro 1 process backs that up and makes sure you don't stray away from it. Its almost like a mental checklist to get you onto the shot line.
With time you don't have to think about A, B or C and which sweep is needed, you just do it. Your body automatically gets into position, then your head and once you get to that stage of your development it becomes second nature to naturally set up on the shot line.
Keep at it and soon enough you will understand the meaning behind your question.
With time you don't have to think about A, B or C and which sweep is needed, you just do it. Your body automatically gets into position, then your head and once you get to that stage of your development it becomes second nature to naturally set up on the shot line.
Keep at it and soon enough you will understand the meaning behind your question.
I hope pro1/cte part 2 dvd ACTUALLY SHOW what it doing when getting down on the shot and show us what are you seeing when you down on the cue ball. I am about give up on Pro1/CTE. It been a year and half now for me. I am going back to the ORIGINAL WAY HAL HOULE show me. there are LE,LQ,CENTER,RQ, AND RE. I am tired of wasting my life on a aiming system that not doing it for me. I AM DOING EXACTLY THE DVD SHOWED. I was told by many people my foot work is good and my stroke is good. at this point I am giving up and my game went down hill little bit when I started using Pro1/Cte for practice. Now I gotta get back to the original way Hal Houle taught me. Sorry Stan but I am giving up on Pro1/CTE. I can't get it down but when I am shooting way Hal Houle taught me.....balls going right in for me.
If that is the case, why in the world would you consider any other aiming system? You'd be better served taking an English class than attempting to learn an aiming system you obviously can't understand.
Nobcitypool
what the **** I ever says to you? NOTHING. I don't mind learning different aiming systems. I got 2 aiming systems down so far and I know a professional pool player telling me that professional do not just have 1 aiming system....we got 2 or 3 aiming systems to use for certain different shots.
Don't tell me about joining a ****ing english class which have nothing to do with BILLIARDS.
what the **** I ever says to you? NOTHING. I don't mind learning different aiming systems. I got 2 aiming systems down so far and I know a professional pool player telling me that professional do not just have 1 aiming system....we got 2 or 3 aiming systems to use for certain different shots.
Don't tell me about joining a ****ing english class which have nothing to do with BILLIARDS.
Kinda does when the DVD you are trying to learn from is in English.
If your stroke is perfect, your footwork is perfect, your ability to find quarter, half and 1/8ths of a ball is perfect then you shouldn't be missing. Surely you can tell when you get down on a shot if its going in or not. If the green light in your head doesn't go on when down, why would you shoot the shot?
Clearly you have been doing something wrong, perhaps its something that was lost in the language barrier, more than likely I'd put it down to something not being right with you. Perhaps your footwork and stroke aren't as good as you once thought.
Because I'm tired of seeing you come on the CTE/Pro One threads spouting the same crap "I learned from Hal Houle blah, blah, blah..." I think everyone knows, by now, you learned an aiming system from Hal Houle. Based on your near illiterate posts, I'm guessing you skipped English class to take the lessons from Hal.
If you have something positive to add on Stan's aiming system threads, by all means, attempt to post it in understandable Enlish. If all you're going to do is keep cutting down CTE/Pro One and talking about Hal taught you his version of fractional aiming, please STFU. I'm sure Hal taught you that because he could see you wouldn't understand CTE/Pro One.
Jpool1985,
I am with you, use what is the best for you and it does not matter that something worked well for someone else and did not work for you. Moreover, it does NOT matter what everyone else says. THEY ARE ALL WRONG! Maybe it worked for them, it did not work for YOU, period. Be confident in YOURSELF. This is when you start taking responsibility of your own training. Others do not matter. There is a table, cue, chalk and balls. That's the absolute true of the billiard. This is what really matters and how you perform with these tools.
Dr Dave gave a good explanation on CTE. There is no discrete system if executed precisely work consistently. The pockets are just not that large. You must adjust. As an example, try to use the same discrete technique, whatever it is with Russian pyramid table and balls. I bet most of the balls will miss. You can try to find what to adjust that works for you. If not, why to bother? It is not for you.
It is the same question "what is the best cue"? And there is no a single answer for it. The same is true for aiming systems.
It's a fairly safe bet that Dr. Dave does not truly understand real CTE, so, my advice would be to take his explanation with that in mind.
Perhaps Dr. Dave can offer interested readers a dozen CTE shots that will not go using CTE PRO ONE directions. He could even do a BD article centered around his explanation along with a a dozen shots that can not work according to what I have presented.
Stan Shuffett
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NOBODY is attempting to force CTE/Pro One down his throat. I guarantee you no CTE/Pro One users cares what aiming system he or anybody else uses. The issue is he is repeatedly posting the same ole crap that adds nothing to the thread and at this point is redundant for the 50th time plus.
It seems logical that he would simply start a thread related to his aiming system if he feels the need to discuss it. Oh wait, he tried and got nearly zero responses. LOL
Stan,
I actually did not read any Dr Dave's article that says anything bad about CTE. Maybe there are such articles but I did not read them. The one I read just tries to analyze mechanics and geometry of the method, which is completely different from person's perception and he did not mention it did not work.
I tried CTE, by no means I say I am an expert in CTE, and ... it worked just fine for me. But I do not memorize all these formulas, A,B,C or try to follow exactly. I try to feel the table to produce an angle with the ideas I received in the method. Personally I like some other aiming method more, but it is just my preference. Moreover, I found that a shot consistency depends more on consistency of a stroke itself, ability to make a straight shot across the table than on the aiming system itself. With better fundamentals I can pocket better using either with my modification of ghost ball, both of CJ's aiming systems or CTE/ProOne.
By the way, are you going to make your course downloadable or available to stream from Internet?
Nick
I actually did not read any Dr Dave's article that says anything bad about CTE. Maybe there are such articles but I did not read them. The one I read just tries to analyze mechanics and geometry of the method, which is completely different from person's perception and he did not mention it did not work.
I tried CTE, by no means I say I am an expert in CTE, and ... it worked just fine for me. But I do not memorize all these formulas, A,B,C or try to follow exactly. I try to feel the table to produce an angle with the ideas I received in the method. Personally I like some other aiming method more, but it is just my preference. Moreover, I found that a shot consistency depends more on consistency of a stroke itself, ability to make a straight shot across the table than on the aiming system itself. With better fundamentals I can pocket better using either with my modification of ghost ball, both of CJ's aiming systems or CTE/ProOne.
By the way, are you going to make your course downloadable or available to stream from Internet?
Nick
nobcitypool. I suspect the problem is nobody was able to answer Jpool1985's questions so he can understand.
Personally I believe a system shall work like magic, unconsciously. It is like riding bicycle, who cares how it works as long as the technique that produces results works? A person actually has an extra sense responsible for balance, like how tight the person needs to hold a paper glass to not break it and with force enough to hold it. Or how the person knows what to do when balancing on a string? The same is here, as long as CTE works for someone it works. The brain makes necessary adjustments unconsciously. It is a mind game.
Some people need to be explained what these adjustments are, some people get them naturally. Moreover peoples abilities and strengths are different. That's why I think different aiming methods will always exist. What is simple for one, difficult for another. Different people need to be explained differently. I teach a lot (non-pool related subjects) and I know it.
Personally I think it would be great to have more pictures, diagrams and 1,2,3 explanations when someone explains an aiming system so there is no confusion, but it is me. I've been in tech industry for many years. Someone else might need a different approach.
Nick,
Correct, Dr. Dave, likely, did not work with the real perceptions of CTE.
In all sincerity and no disrespect, I doubt that you have either. (Come to me and show me that you have and any lessons that you desire are on me.) ** before DVD2 is out
You are 100% right about the importance of stroke!
I have no plans to use downloadable versions of CTE PRO ONE at this time.
Stan Shuffett
I do not think that you actually understand real CTE. If that is true. you really do not know whether there are adjustments or not. IMO, you must think it just can't be.
Stan Shuffett
Stan,
>In all sincerity and no disrespect, I doubt that you have either.
If you say so, I believe you and I am not offended. I guess it can only be done by explaining in person then. We have different methods of learning and explaining things. What you assume I know I don't and what I expect from a method explanation I do not receive. In this case it is easier for teacher to show, review what the student does, correct him and answer questions than to present it as a video.
Unfortunately I live far from you (LA) and I am not able to take in person lessons. Thanks for the offer anyway.
Nick
It is not so that CTE PRO ONE can be learned only in person.
It's no secret, though, that personal instruction is almost always preferable to books or videos when possible.
CTE PRO ONE is a visual/physical education of how to really approach the game like a professional player. Plus the system connects with the table.
Actually, CTE PRO ONE can be a very simple system to learn and use. It takes a little time but that's a 1000 times better than spinning one's wheels for lifetime trying to figure it all out. Personally, I think your trip from LA to KY to experience another dimension in aiming would be priceless.
But, if you can't make it...DVD2 will get you there if you so choose.
Stan Shuffett
