gabon ebony
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Its not black.... To get premium prices out of gaboon its going to need to be jet black. Lighter gaboon isn't even close to as valuable.
Its not black.... To get premium prices out of gaboon its going to need to be jet black. Lighter gaboon isn't even close to as valuable.
The ebony is black just coated in a wax that makes it look lighter/ yellowish all the ebony I have sold is super black just check my feedback I have sold lots of it.
I"m guessing for 2k that all potential buyers will want to see that it really is black. I'm guessing that once it is received and "messed with" there will be no returning?
As is with all pieces of wood this size you cant say every square inch is going to be jet black that wood (ha ha) be insane to say. Im sure there are srteaks within this piece but I know its aged and ready to use . That is common sense and if you don't know that you wouldn't be interested in buying a piece this big anyways. You can go look on many importers sites they sell pieces half this size for 1200-1500 dollars and once you cut it its yours. The risk you take with any piece of wood. My itrader feedback speaks for itself all the pieces I have sold have been of premium quality and have had no issues with buyers and not saying every pieces was perfect but of high quality. so yes if someone does buy this piece and decides to cut it up and does not like it the own it as with any other piece of wood bought
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Jet black ebony
Is ebony covered with black wax the same as jet black ebony? Unfortunately, you won't know until you try turning it, and then you might find stripes, and too wet after six months of sitting in the shop to be worked on.
But what do I know about jet black ebony
Mario
Is ebony covered with black wax the same as jet black ebony? Unfortunately, you won't know until you try turning it, and then you might find stripes, and too wet after six months of sitting in the shop to be worked on.
But what do I know about jet black ebony
Mario
How many lbs does this piece weigh?
Aged steaks! What type of steaks? Porterhouse, Delmonico or T bone? I like all three so it really doesn't matter.
piece was covered in wax to seal. And Im not saying the whole piece is jet black that would be a crazy thing to say, but I know the piece is overall great with a low moisture content at least on the outside. this piece weighs over 100 lbs last time I check over a year ago
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Is ebony covered with black wax the same as jet black ebony? Unfortunately, you won't know until you try turning it, and then you might find stripes, and too wet after six months of sitting in the shop to be worked on.
But what do I know about jet black ebony
Mario
Mario is right here wood is wood and you never know 100% until you turn it down what it will look like Im pretty sure most of the wood I have sold turns out to be pretty good and nice and dark as far as the ebony
I don't think anyone is doubting what you have. Wouldn't it make sense to cut it into some smaller sections so a buyer can see what they're getting? If it is 24bdft, then it would be an 8.5"x8.5"x48" piece of wood that's fairly pricy to ship to whomever would want to buy it, which raises the average cost per usable piece above the $23.50ish you're asking. $23.50ish per 1.5"x1.5"x18" piece would be a very reasonable price to the end user if it were nice black gaboon, for sure.. I doubt most guys are going to gamble on a brown looking piece of ebony that you say is black. If its black, cut that sucker down and lets see the black.You could cut the uneven end off, or cut a 1.75" slice off the flattest long side. Every piece of gaboon I have in my shop is black, completely coated in wax and black as night. Wax doesn't change the color of what's below it as much as it just leaves a heavy milky or amberish film on the wood but red still looks red, black still looks black and in this case brown still looks brown. With zero waste you'll have 85pcs 1.5x1.5x18" out of 24bdft, we all know that won't happen...Cut down, jet black, quality gaboon on here will easily fetch $35 per square, no? If you got 75 usable pieces you'd be doing great, and would raise the value by $900, that makes for a relatively easy decision in my eyes when met with obvious skepticism. I don't see anyone questioning your past sales they're questioning this sale because we can clearly see that it doesn't look black. Maybe that actually is because of the wax, or because of your camera, or whatever. Isn't that reasonable, all things considered?
ebony
I may just have to cut it down and sell ty for all the input
I may just have to cut it down and sell ty for all the input
That is what I would do. More money and much less can of worms...
At that weight I can buy ebony for less than $800.00 so would pass on this for $2000.00. While it may be old, fairly dry and nice color there is no guarantee about how many pieces you will get out of it because of cracking/checking/size. Yours might be the odd cant that is totally solid from end to end but probably not. I know the other stuff you were selling was great looking. Cutting this up first seems to be a better idea. Good luck.
Well I don't buy ebony by the pound only the board foot. and most of the higher end cuemakes pay between 80-100 per board foot of ebony depending on the how good the quality that I have dealt with. there are at least 24 board ft in this piece the math says its a fair price. I have a question to ask what do you pay per pound? it seems like the greener the ebony with a higher moisture content you would be paying more for than if it was drier?
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There is green pricing and dry pricing among wood dealers. Higher moisture content = lower price per board foot or per pound. Drier wood = higher pricing. You have a wholesale piece looking to get a retail price based on a cant. The only way to do that is cutting it up and seeing what you have. Then you'll need to piece it out one and two at a time.
I don't know any cue maker paying $80 per board foot for ebony turning squares in 2013 much less going forward this year. In fact, I don't know any cue maker who is getting ebony for $100 a board foot for turning squares. In fact, I don't know any cue makers getting turning squares for less than $150 per board foot.
Ebony is in huge demand and getting scarcer by the day. The quality is not what it use to be as standards for ebony is lower today than it was 10 years ago due to the shortage. It's not going to get any better.
I would still rather have the steaks. :grin:
Would agree with most every thing you said, except that the last Gaboon I bought was less than $80.00 b.f. so it is still there to find. And no, there is nothing wrong with the quality of the wood.
If it's really black, then you can get 50.00 EASY per 18 inch square all day long. That's just shy of 200.00bf.
The only quantity of lumber I've seen come into Southern Cal didn't look as good as the squares bought, so I passed. The lumber was 80.00bf.
If you got black turning squares for 15-17 bucks, or less, a piece at 18 inches, I hope you bought 500 or so.