Questions about CTE Pro One

BeiberLvr said:
Correct.

I remember seeing that video on perception when he first uploaded it, and didn't pay it much attention. Then a few weeks ago, I watched it again, and actually went to the table to practice the shots.

If you get your visuals CTE(R)/ETA, and compare the first shot (thick cut) to the fifth shot (thin cut). You'll see that even though your visuals are the same, the fifth shot actually looks like a thinner cut.

It's difficult to explain in words, but is really easy to see once you try it at the table, and it was a great eye opener for me.
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Thanks for doing a better job of putting this into words than I did.
 
enzo1990 said:
Well, in the video you did a 15 dgr perception with an inside sweep for all the 5 shots, which means you went through the same processes, how could you end up making 5 different angled shots? I mean wasn't your object ball supposed to go the same direction for each shot? For example, if I tell someone at a starting point to walk 5 steps ahead, then turn around walk 3 steps ahead. Now where he ends up being we call finishing point. Then I tell him to go back to starting point and repeat those steps, he should end up at finishing point everytime if his stride is consistent. Cte Pro One is consistent. Even in the video Stan says visual is the same visual, pivot is always 1/2 tip. If you did everything exactly the same for each shot in the video, I don't understand how you pocketed all the shots.
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Enzo,

Here's where ur making a mistake.

You're trying to learn a new method of aiming with an old thought process. If you really want to learn ProOne, forget what you know or might have been taught about aiming before.

Let me pose a question to you that might help you see the light.


For example, if I tell someone at a starting point to walk 5 steps ahead, then turn around walk 3 steps ahead. Now where he ends up being we call finishing point. Then I tell him to go back to starting point and repeat those steps, he should end up at finishing point everytime if his stride is consistent.

Yes, u will end up at the same finishing point. However, ur proposition requires the person to return to the EXACT SAME starting point. If, the person is at a different starting point and uses the same directions he also arrives at the same point but equivalent in distance. So you see u are in a different location physically but in relation to distance u have traveled the same. So u have the same finishing point.

In Gerry's 5 shots he IS NOT at the same starting point though. He is using the same process. And he is ending in the same finishing point... THE POCKET (right angle to be more exact).

CTE ProOne is a new dimension in aiming! The system is about CB-OB relations, the rotation that connects to the geometry of the table which takes the OB to right angles. SIMPLE AS THAT.

A proverb that may best illustrate the learning process

"You must first empty the tea glass before it can be filled."

Take a deep breath and take the advice of everyone here. Watch the DVD with an open mind, empty of what you think should be. Use the diagramed shots and practice only those shots. Then give us some feedback. If its not for you, then it's for u to decide. I'm not here to force anyone to believe in ProOne, I just give my advice and if its for u then hey, its for you. BOTTOMLINE
 
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IamCalvin06 said:
Enzo,

A proverb that may best illustrate the learning process

"You must first empty the tea glass before it can be filled."
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I told my wife that proverb the last time I came home late and inebriated. She said she liked that and gave me her proverb.

"A-hole with too many empty glasses gets to sleep on the couch"
 
nobcitypool said:
I told my wife that proverb the last time I came home late and inebriated. She said she liked that and gave me her proverb.

"A-hole with too many empty glasses gets to sleep on the couch"
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Which brings me to another more modern day proverb from asian Americans that goes something like this...

"Sofa... So gooOod..." Or "so-fah, so good"

But lets try not to derail this thread lol
 
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enzo1990 said:
And now why is the sudden negativity? Am I asking something I'm not supposed to ask? I don't understand how this upsets you.
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If your going to listen to someone,listen to Gerry ,he seems very open minded and has put in a lot of table time.
Good luck to You.:smile:

Anthony
 
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Left or Right....

How do you determine sweeps....

In my Experience
1) if the pocket is on your right side... then it's right sweep
2) if the pocket is on your left side... then it's left sweep

For straight ins...

1) establish a percepetion in which you are strong at...
IF I'm a left eye dominant so basically i would use E-to-A then CTE
IF I'm a Right eye dominant so basically i would use E-to-C then CTE
2) Sweep to the opposite..
E-to-A then CTE with RIGHT Visual Sweep
E-to-C then CTE with Left Visual Sweep
3) Step 1 and 2 are dependent based on you position on the table... so choose the one
that suits you best or feel comfortable at.


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Note: Even though I haven't received my DVD yet. I believe i have a full basic understanding of CTE pro One based on Stan's You tube Videos and I'm using it everytime i play and practice and it works well..


I'm a Look, align, target shooting or ghost ball aimer or I just look at the object ball and feel its shoot. and im proficient in that...

When i first tried this CTE Pro One.. it's hard..and frustrating. believe me I've put almost 60 hours just to determine object paths and sweeps...

It takes patience..... and I patiently wait for my DVD hehe.

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My advice is that... you have to put your heart in it.....
I almost thought that this CTE pro One is crap... but then i gave it a chance determine if it will work.. and slowly but surely it works silently... and by concience i have understood that this CTE pro One works (and I bought it....)

Now after that.. you'll be amazed how the balls enter the pocket.. its always near center or center... and then you'll feel joy without realizing that you have been proficient in sweeps or identifying object lines...

Thanks...

Solomon Manalo
Programmer ("If I could just "code" pool, None on earth can beat me.. LOL")
 
New to AZ, but not new to pool. Solid A speed at home. Just got back from lessons with Stan in January. Something he cleared up and it's the same question I think u r having. I thought I needed to use a 30 degree perception to cut in a 30 degree cut. That was the exact question I asked him as we were were going over the perceptions in our lesson. He said, " no, it's the 30 degree perception that cuts the shot in. Stop thinking in terms of what cut angle you have and start thinking in terms of what perception you need to cut the shot in given the 2 fixed edges on the cue that u get from ccb and cbe. Most cut shots will fall in the 15 and 30 degree perceptions." It took me a while to figure out where to stand so I can see both cbe and ccbe. My feeling is, that u may be standing in the wrong spot. My tendency is the over cut, usually my cbbe line is a little too far to the outside of the ob edge or I sweep the wrong way. I'm getting better with it every day. I have been aiming one way for 28 years, I can't expect to master this in a month..
Hopefully this helps..
 
Here's the thing about CTE/Pro 1- it only works when YOU are consistent. You have to approach the shot the same way every time, and then you have to stroke straight. Miss either of those, you will miss the shot.

In other words, it takes time to learn CTE. At first, you will have trouble with the visuals. That is because it is very different than any other way you have aimed before. As has been said, empty your cup first. Forget what you know, and start over. The best way to do that is through observance, not judgement. That means that you set up a shot, shoot it using CTE, and just observe what happens. Don't judge whether it was a make or a miss, just observe.

When you start observing, then pretty soon you start to "get it". This system is a precision system, and only precision will allow it to work for you. IT TAKES PRACTICE. It's not a magic pill to instant perfect aiming.

When you start observing closely, you will also notice a few other things that you never noticed before about aiming. Such as how important the feet really are, such as little "cues" that you are lined up correctly. (not going to get into those, those are for you to find through diligent observance) Its all about precision and repetition. Basically, practicing the right things.
 
mohrt said:
Not correct.
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That may be true...
what I'm referring at is.. When there's a thick Cut shot on the Left Corner my visuals would be CTE, E-To-A or E-to-A, CTE. once i've established the object line.. all I do is Left Visual Sweep.

My left sweep is that My eyes go to the left to the center of the cue ball and at the same time my left foot steps slightly forward..

Again.. I'm not an authority in CTE pro One.. still waiting to have my DVD..
this is just my opinion and it works..

and again thanks again for the correction.. I maybe wrong after all..
 
Depends how thick the cut is. As it gets closer to straight in the sweep will be right and not left.

Cheers,
Gerry

Se7en6ix said:
That may be true...
what I'm referring at is.. When there's a thick Cut shot on the Left Corner my visuals would be CTE, E-To-A or E-to-A, CTE. once i've established the object line.. all I do is Left Visual Sweep.

My left sweep is that My eyes go to the left to the center of the cue ball and at the same time my left foot steps slightly forward..

Again.. I'm not an authority in CTE pro One.. still waiting to have my DVD..
this is just my opinion and it works..

and again thanks again for the correction.. I maybe wrong after all..
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