Maple shaftwood squares for sale

Double-Dave

Double-Dave

Developing cue-addict
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Hi guys,

I recently purchased thousands maple shaftwood squares and hundreds hornbeam squares.
These have been sitting in storage as squares for over 15 years.

During these 15 years some of them have warped, those will obviously be culled, other then that
there will be no cherry picking for anyone.

The maple squares are 1.1x1.2 and at least 32" long. As you can see in the picture of the end grain there
are some really tight grained squares in this bunch, off course there are some less tight ones aswell.
I feel confident in saying they average well over 10gpi with some going over 20gpi.

Price for these squares is $8.50 or € 6 each plus shipping. Since I am located in Europe shipping
will not be cheap, as a reference a 70 pound package (that would be a maximum of 49 squares) is $130
to ship to the USA, a 22 pound package (about 16 squares) is $65 to ship, even lighter packages
cost about the same. The smallest number I will ship is 16 squares for $200 shipped, the largest amount
I can ship in 1 package is 49 for $550 shipped.

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Payment is possible with PayPal or with a wire transfer.

gr. Dave
 
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Just a bump and some updated info on shipping rates. Due to the exchange rate price in US$ has gone up .50 per square.

gr. Dave
 
Another bump.

I have moved the images to imgur.com because the other hosting has been changed and now you get a lot of annoying pop-ups.

There have been a couple purchases and everyone so far has been really happy (see I-trader).

gr. Dave
 
Another package that I sent out the same day as yours arrived yesterday (see I-Trader).
It's a shame it takes so long but there is nothing really I can do.

gr. Dave
 
Nothing yet. Two more days and it will be a month since I placed my order. I'm thinking you said it didn't get shipped till the 24th but that's still three weeks ago. I'll make sure to post when it gets here.
 
Hi,

I sent you a tracking number the day I shipped out, so you shouldn't have to guess when I shipped,
It was on the 24th. Last tracking update was yesterday so I guess it will be there any day now.

gr. Dave
 
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I got it today. Not really what I was hoping for after the pictures posted of the tight grain in the wood showen. Maybe a quarter or third of them look as good as the pictures posted. Oh well like they say live and learn.
 
I am sorry you are not really happy with what you got, do you feel I misrepresented them when I
stated these will average over 10gpi? Or was it simply the pictures of 6 blanks I pulled from the stack?

I want my buyers to be happy and I have tried to represent these for what they are and priced
them accordingly. Off course I could sort them out to raise the average gpi but then I could no
longer sell them for $8.50 plus shipping (well, I could, but wouldn't).

gr. Dave
 
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What I was saying is if I went though all 49 pieces I might get 12 to 15 that look anywhere close to the six you ''pulled'' from the stack. I see you have a perfect I-Trader on here so I must be the only one that's not really happy about the shaft wood.
 
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As promised i'll give my honest opinion

I received my 49 squares, Dave did right by his agreement with me so i'll stay neutral as far as I-trader is concerned.

I don't think Dave was trying to sling bulls...t wood at folks, I think its more of the fact that he may not know exactly what shaftwood is.

I don't feel like any of the wood I received is shaftwood. Of the (49) I received there might be 6 that will go into a lower end cue I make. Growth ring concentration is fantastic and above average. Grain runoff is significant and well below average.

Im not sweatn it to bad because I do a ton of stuff where a sacrificial blank is required and wont have to worry about tracking down wood for this.

Disclaimer.....I've become very very picky with shaftwood, it's quite possible that others will find some of this wood acceptable where I did not.
 
LGSM3 said:
As promised i'll give my honest opinion

I received my 49 squares, Dave did right by his agreement with me so i'll stay neutral as far as I-trader is concerned.

I don't think Dave was trying to sling bulls...t wood at folks, I think its more of the fact that he may not know exactly what shaftwood is.

I don't feel like any of the wood I received is shaftwood. Of the (49) I received there might be 6 that will go into a lower end cue I make. Growth ring concentration is fantastic and above average. Grain runoff is significant and well below average.

Im not sweatn it to bad because I do a ton of stuff where a sacrificial blank is required and wont have to worry about tracking down wood for this.

Disclaimer.....I've become very very picky with shaftwood, it's quite possible that others will find some of this wood acceptable where I did not.
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I have to quote Jake on this.
I agree with Jake 1000% and I know that Dave is a good guy. The dramatic grain run off is pretty severe on about 95% of the wood I got here.
 
JUSTABANGER 2 said:
What I was saying is if I went though all 49 pieces I might get 12 to 15 that look anywhere close to the six you ''pulled'' from the stack. I see you have a perfect I-Trader on here so I must be the only one that's not really happy about the shaft wood.
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I have a perfect I-trader on here because I always try to represent what I am selling as honest as I can
and if the buyer is not happy I try my best to make it right. Could you do me the courtesy of answering my
question about whether you feel I misrepresented these squares as being over 10gpi on average?
After that let me know what I can do to make you happy.

The problem I am having is one person here is saying they have fantastin growth rings but too much
runout, the other one is saying they don't have tight enough growth rings.

I cannot make this wood into something it is not and will not try to, I would however appreciate to be judged fairly.

gr. Dave
 
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LGSM3 said:
As promised i'll give my honest opinion

I received my 49 squares, Dave did right by his agreement with me so i'll stay neutral as far as I-trader is concerned.

I don't think Dave was trying to sling bulls...t wood at folks, I think its more of the fact that he may not know exactly what shaftwood is.

I don't feel like any of the wood I received is shaftwood. Of the (49) I received there might be 6 that will go into a lower end cue I make. Growth ring concentration is fantastic and above average. Grain runoff is significant and well below average.

Im not sweatn it to bad because I do a ton of stuff where a sacrificial blank is required and wont have to worry about tracking down wood for this.

Disclaimer.....I've become very very picky with shaftwood, it's quite possible that others will find some of this wood acceptable where I did not.
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Trust me, I know what shaftwood looks like. I have bought lots from Charley, Bill, Joe, Tony (Guerra cues)
and Tommy (hangemhigh), I have probably owned around 2000 cues over the last 6 or 7 years.

I appreciate that you feel these have too much runout, again I cannot make this wood into something
it is not. I will ask you the question if the squares you received were straight?
What kind of runout were you expecting to get, nothing at all, a little, a lot, or something inbetween?
Please understand I am not trying to to put you down but hoping to learn from this experience.

Most importantly, please let me know what I can do to make you happy.
Lastly and this is for both you and justabanger if you are unhappy with our deal why would you start
with posting it publicly, I thought it a common courtesy to at least give me a chance to make it right
privately, I guess I am mistaken.

I have had deals where I was unhappy, even with people posting in this thread but simply let them
know privately. Everything worked out so there was no need to take it public.

I think what I will do from here on is take a batch of 25 squares and take pictures of end grain
and lengthwise (like I did with the 6 squares in the first post) and sell those as a batch where
what you see is what you get. I hope that will make more buyers happy.

gr. Dave
 
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Hi to all,

now it's my turn to write a comment about Daves wood.

Today I got the wood well packed and I had to check it right away.
From all squares there was one with 10 to 12 gpi all other wood was 15+ gpi.
I checked all squares for grain runout.

I have to say the wood looks very good to me.
I'm not fanatic about the "perfect" shaftwood. Some other cuemaker will say it's not the best wood. Olny thing I can say after 4 years of cuebuilding is that the wood I buy here in europe from Elforyn.de aka Atlas isn't as good as the wood I got from Dave.
Noone of my cutomers ever complained about the wood from Atlas and won't complain about this wood.
I think everyone who is fanatic about his shaftwood should not buy his wood without checking it personally. The other way is to buy all and sort the best out for yourself and sell the rest. I think thats what the big names do :wink:

I'm happy with the wood and I'll buy more.
Dave is a great guy to deal with.


Thanks
Silvio
 
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Double-Dave said:
Trust me, I know what shaftwood looks like. I have bought lots from Charley, Bill, Joe, Tony (Guerra cues)
and Tommy (hangemhigh), I have probably owned around 2000 cues over the last 6 or 7 years.

I appreciate that you feel these have too much runout, again I cannot make this wood into something
it is not. I will ask you the question if the squares you received were straight?
What kind of runout were you expecting to get, nothing at all, a little, a lot, or something inbetween?
Please understand I am not trying to to put you down but hoping to learn from this experience.

Most importantly, please let me know what I can do to make you happy.
Lastly and this is for both you and justabanger if you are unhappy with our deal why would you start
with posting it publicly, I thought it a common courtesy to at least give me a chance to make it right
privately, I guess I am mistaken.

I have had deals where I was unhappy, even with people posting in this thread but simply let them
know privately. Everything worked out so there was no need to take it public.

I think what I will do from here on is take a batch of 25 squares and take pictures of end grain
and lengthwise (like I did with the 6 squares in the first post) and sell those as a batch where
what you see is what you get. I hope that will make more buyers happy.

gr. Dave
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I don't think there should be a problem with public critique. If it was all positive then I doubt you would mind. I'm not questioning your ethics, but the fact of the matter is getting wood from somewhere that is 5000 miles away and across an ocean isn't something that is convenient.

It's bad enough having to return wood anywhere when you have to ship it back.
 
pescadoman said:
I don't think there should be a problem with public critique. If it was all positive then I doubt you would mind.
I'm not questioning your ethics, but the fact of the matter is getting wood from somewhere that is 5000 miles away and across an ocean isn't something that is convenient.

It's bad enough having to return wood anywhere when you have to ship it back.
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I respect your opinion but do not share it.

Anytime I see a thread started about someone being unhappy with a deal without giving the seller a
chance to make it right the starter of the thread gets blasted.

I have invested a lot of time and money in getting a sterling reputation, posting publicly about being
unhappy with a deal with me without giving me any chance at all to make it right really ticks me off.

I don't care about being out a couple hundred bucks for shipping anywhere near as much as I care
about my reputation. If they would have contacted me we would have worked it out so they would
be satisfied with the solution.

Please note that even in this thread I have asked what I can do to make it right and they do not even respond.
What am I supposed to do?

I have done thousands of deals, many on AZ but many more thru my webshop and other forums. Not every
single buyer is satisfied with what they get but I always stand by what I sell and give every one the right to
return what they do not like.

Simply writing for everyone to read: "Dave sold me crap and I am unhappy with it" makes me look real bad
and will cost me who knows how many sales and that is not right.

gr. Dave
 
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