phenolic ferrules/tips

TheThaiger

TheThaiger

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I've just bought a cheap cue that has been converted to a break cue by adding a phenolic ferrule. This cue breaks incredibly well, but I'm slightly concerned by the ferrule/tip, which is practically flat. I'm not the original owner, so didn't see the curvature of the tip after it was fitted, but can't imagine it was as flat as it is now. It is clearly compressing with use.

Does a flat tip matter? It breaks great now, but, if it continues to flatten and goes completely flat, will this create problems? I can't imagine a flat tip is good or else they would all be flat.
 
They will wear and flatten over time. When I do one, which is rare now, I shape the tip to a nickle dome, I think it breaks better with some shape. But im just one saw dust maker lol.
 
If you break by hitting the cue ball on center, then the flat shape is an advantage.
If you break hitting off center, then some radius on the tip is an advantage.
If it is working really well for you now, compared to the other cue you also have, why change it.?
 
TheThaiger said:
It is clearly compressing with use.
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Phenolic doesn't compress over time. It breaks before it would even deform. Maybe it was never really shaped to begin with and you have some aggressive chalking techniques. If it was shaped properly, and it truly is compressing, then it's not phenolic.

Now based on your other posts here on AZB, I'd be willing to bet you aren't using the cue enough to cause the tip to wear flat. My best guess is you were oblivious to the shape to begin with.
 
Hits 'em Hard said:
Phenolic doesn't compress over time. It breaks before it would even deform. Maybe it was never really shaped to begin with and you have some aggressive chalking techniques. If it was shaped properly, and it truly is compressing, then it's not phenolic.

Now based on your other posts here on AZB, I'd be willing to bet you aren't using the cue enough to cause the tip to wear flat. My best guess is you were oblivious to the shape to begin with.
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Lol. What? :eek:

Anyway...I have only just bought it. The person I bought it from only had it 2 months and can't break over 15mph.
 
Phenolic doesn't compress, not from my experiences. It can wear, but that takes a lot of use for that. It was probably shaped like that, and can be reshaped by using a normal shaper or a cue repair guy can do it really fast on a lathe.
Dave
 
You state twice in your post that "it breaks great" and then you ask "Should I change it?"
Sure, if you want to:eek:
Gary
 
Hits 'em Hard said:
Phenolic doesn't compress over time. It breaks before it would even deform. Maybe it was never really shaped to begin with and you have some aggressive chalking techniques. If it was shaped properly, and it truly is compressing, then it's not phenolic.

Now based on your other posts here on AZB, I'd be willing to bet you aren't using the cue enough to cause the tip to wear flat. My best guess is you were oblivious to the shape to begin with.
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Although they don't compress they do wear. I see it all the time. But I'm guessing that what hits em hard is saying is more accurate that it was never shaped properly to begin with.

As for shape. You don't want your break cue domed as much as your playing cue. You want it slightly flatter but npt completely flat. Usually I dome them to about a quarter radius. But you can reahape them relatively easy with a tip shaper or file.

If you are not confident enough to do it yourself I would take it to a repair person. It's a relatively straight forward job.
 
cammel8 said:
Although they don't compress they do wear. I see it all the time. But I'm guessing that what hits em hard is saying is more accurate that it was never shaped properly to begin with.

As for shape. You don't want your break cue domed as much as your playing cue. You want it slightly flatter but npt completely flat. Usually I dome them to about a quarter radius. But you can reahape them relatively easy with a tip shaper or file.

If you are not confident enough to do it yourself I would take it to a repair person. It's a relatively straight forward job.
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Cheers.

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TheThaiger said:
Lol. What? :eek:

Anyway...I have only just bought it. The person I bought it from only had it 2 months and can't break over 15mph.
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Basically you were oblivious to the flat shape when you got it. There is no downside to a flat tip if all you're doing is center ball hits. I personally run a radius somewhere near a half dollar. Most would prolly recomend somewhere around there or the old silver dollar radius.
 
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