I found something that mentions it but still don't know what it is.
http://www.ebc-billiard.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=280&Itemid=14&lang=en
http://www.ebc-billiard.com/index.p...w=category&layout=blog&id=6&Itemid=37&lang=en
Crazy Tournament Idea
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I found something that mentions it but still don't know what it is.
http://www.ebc-billiard.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=280&Itemid=14&lang=en
http://www.ebc-billiard.com/index.p...w=category&layout=blog&id=6&Itemid=37&lang=en
I think that's a type of billiards game, not a tournament format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_pyramid
This is true if your only sole purpose is to cheat. On this basis, nothing will get done in US Pool... :thumbup:
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Sorry don't know macguy. All I know is that this type of tournament got me to take pool seriously when I first started to play. I'm sure there are other Euro players on this forum who can answer your question... :thumbup:
Once players agree to show for their match and one does not turn up or refuses to play, then he or she forfeits the match and the other player gets the win and points allocated. Simple :thumbup:
Oh and by the way. This type of tournament play gets individuals who normally don't reach out to one another together. People find new friends - and for the USA players, you may just find a new gambling pal to take your money..! :thumbup:
Thats Basically it.
Thats basically what Im after, a way to promote the Social Aspect of the game, creation of the Pool Culture..
For all intense purposes one could just put out a list of people that wanted to play and each week you have to call someone you hadnt played and get together for a match.
Scores could be kept on a sheet or not, main thing is to get people together on their own time with no big commitments.
Thats basically what Im after, a way to promote the Social Aspect of the game, creation of the Pool Culture..
For all intense purposes one could just put out a list of people that wanted to play and each week you have to call someone you hadnt played and get together for a match.
Scores could be kept on a sheet or not, main thing is to get people together on their own time with no big commitments.
Sounds like a plan to me :thumbup:
This sounds just like the Megabucks singles money league I play in at Steinway, and also the NAPL singles league that Tony Robles runs.
It has nothing to do with you. If you make a tournament format in which it is easy to cheat, someone will take advantage of it and ruin it for everyone else.
I guess we should all leave our doors unlocked too, and rely on the goodness of everyone else.
The league was paid for before it even started but points were based on games played.
The issue was getting them to commit to play.
agree to disagree
Nothing good comes out of looking at the bad in everything because there is bad in everything. You minimize it but you will never completely control it.
If someone besmirches their name and reputation. You 1 let them know up front if they do it they wont be doing it again and you 2 handle it like you promised and you 3 dont cave in to negativity cause someone is afraid someone will spoil it. You spoil it for the spoilers and send them packing.
The idea that someone would line up 6 or 7 matches and get everyone to let them win ridiculously so they could win a $100 or so to me is just kind of laughable. Sure its a possibility so what do we do?
Do we get babysitters for grown men in the form of referees for a tournament that is supposed to be designed for goodwill and make a place some money? I dont think so what we end up doing is ........Nothing.....and Nothing gets done cause someone is afraid of their shadow.
Sorry but that's no way to live. Deal with the Dumbass that is brave enough to cheat, don't befriend people who cheat, but for certain don't fear people who cheat because they cheat themselves out of the joy of living, but they are not taking mine!
Nothing good comes out of looking at the bad in everything because there is bad in everything. You minimize it but you will never completely control it.
If someone besmirches their name and reputation. You 1 let them know up front if they do it they wont be doing it again and you 2 handle it like you promised and you 3 dont cave in to negativity cause someone is afraid someone will spoil it. You spoil it for the spoilers and send them packing.
The idea that someone would line up 6 or 7 matches and get everyone to let them win ridiculously so they could win a $100 or so to me is just kind of laughable. Sure its a possibility so what do we do?
Do we get babysitters for grown men in the form of referees for a tournament that is supposed to be designed for goodwill and make a place some money? I dont think so what we end up doing is ........Nothing.....and Nothing gets done cause someone is afraid of their shadow.
Sorry but that's no way to live. Deal with the Dumbass that is brave enough to cheat, don't befriend people who cheat, but for certain don't fear people who cheat because they cheat themselves out of the joy of living, but they are not taking mine!
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Not at all. But if a tournament organiser can't deal with cheats, it simply becomes a reflection of the organiser(s) not the cheat.
I'm sure you'll find individuals who are cheating in Vegas right now. But we also know and respect the rules of the house if an individual is caught cheating.
Rules are made to be broken. But they are also made to keep all in check! :thumbup:
And there lies the current state of pool. Getting people to become active in playing.
However one things for sure. You can take a Horse to water, but there no point if the lakes dry.
All the promoter can do is to promote their product to the best of their capabilities... :thumbup:
This way of thinking may work for "how to live" or how you choose your friends, but it doesn't apply to choosing a tournament format.
The analogy of locking your door is about keeping honest people honest. Sure if someone wants to get in your house, a locked door isn't going to prevent that. They will find some way to get in.
Keeping your door unlocked is the same thing as not having any rules, or choosing a flawed tournament format. You are inviting people to cheat, and people that wouldn't normally cheat may do so if other people are doing it, and it is so easy.
This is why you need rules in place, and a good tournament format, so that you don't have to worry about the bad things as much. A lot of good comes out of looking at the bad, when making rules and organizing events.
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It's not just about the one situation the other poster brought up. I made an entire post about it earlier. Also, if you think people won't try to take advantage of the tournament because it's not that much money, you clearly haven't been to enough weekly 10$ tournaments. People are willing to cheat for a nickel, just to have an edge over everyone else.
Everything you guys are saying makes complete sense if you were holding a private tournament, with just friends. Otherwise, you need to have rules and put time in to creating a fair tournament format.
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What the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the state of pool and getting people to participate in tournaments.
This about the fact that this format doesn't facilitate matching players up, so it relies on people matching themselves up, which will not always work out.
This is after people have already registered for the tournament, so it has nothing to do with the "state of pool" as you put it.
How does anything you're saying prove that it's a good idea to have a tournament format where it's easy to cheat and make it unfair for everyone?
None of this is an excuse for choosing a flawed tournament format.