Fear of Feel

[duckie]

Where have I ever mentioned that I was a great player? Search away. You are assuming and that is making a ass out of you.

Best improve your reading comprehension.

I am a strong player on the way to being great, but it has nothing to do with the system I use, but how I practice with the system I use.

A properly structured practice regime with keeping a dairy is better than any system out there, even what I suggest. No system can be effective with proper practice.

Its real easy to play me.....just show up and ask.....if you dare.

 

[8pack]

There is only one way to see me play and that is playing me in some 14.1.

I don't need to post no stinking video. I know what I can and can not do and have no need to prove anything to anyone.

if you don't like my posting style, tough shit. I ain't in this world to please everyone let alone people I don't know and have no desire to know.

As pointed out, how could Babe Cranfield achieve what he did using the spot on the table idea?

I can tell you why......practice.

Thats to bad, I think if charged people to see you play, it might go over well...for a little while anyways.

Maybe he used it maybe he didn't...who knows, I bet he didn't use it for more then a week. For some reason I picture you holding one as your posting on this board.:smile:

And as far as practice goes you left out the most important of all...practicing right.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I don't know if this is still being discussed, but to give a sense of what CTE's "visual" is, here's a drawing of the CTE line (for a left cut) and the three main aimpoint lines (A, B & C)* that are used to find the "visual" for each shot.

It's not precise, but it gives a fair approximation of where the lines are for this CB/OB distance. (If the balls are closer together the A/B/C lines fan out wider and if the balls are farther apart the A/B/C lines get more parallel.)

pj
chgo

*(1/8 aimpoint is omitted for simplicity)

View attachment 1971

 

[8pack]

Where have I ever mentioned that I was a great player? Search away. You are assuming and that is making a ass out of you.

Best improve your reading comprehension.

I am a strong player on the way to being great, but it has nothing to do with the system I use, but how I practice with the system I use.

A properly structured practice regime with keeping a dairy is better than any system out there, even what I suggest. No system can be effective with proper practice.

Its real easy to play me.....just show up and ask.....if you dare.

I've been beat on a lot in this game, mostly by guys who said they couldn't play a lick.
True story. I guess I played really bad...just didn't know it.

Now you confess your a very strong player on his way to becoming great, (hope the best for you) duckie things you say just don't add up.

And before some one shows, you do gamble don't you?

 

[336Robin]

I don't know if this is still being discussed, but to give a sense of what CTE's "visual" is, here's a drawing of the CTE line (for a left cut) and the three main aimpoint lines (A, B & C)* that are used to find the "visual" for each shot.

It's not precise, but it gives a fair approximation of where the lines are for this CB/OB distance. (If the balls are closer together the A/B/C lines fan out wider and if the balls are farther apart the A/B/C lines get more parallel.)

pj
chgo

*(1/8 aimpoint is omitted for simplicity)

View attachment 1971

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[ENGLISH!]

Do I hear the buzzing of a hornets nest?

 

[DTL]

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[8pack]

I don't know if this is still being discussed, but to give a sense of what CTE's "visual" is, here's a drawing of the CTE line (for a left cut) and the three main aimpoint lines (A, B & C)* that are used to find the "visual" for each shot.

It's not precise, but it gives a fair approximation of where the lines are for this CB/OB distance. (If the balls are closer together the A/B/C lines fan out wider and if the balls are farther apart the A/B/C lines get more parallel.)

pj
chgo

*(1/8 aimpoint is omitted for simplicity)

View attachment 1971

I don't think you'll see it like this, you don't wanna be right on the cte line like your picture shows. (need to see it from an offset... i think)

 

[ENGLISH!]

Is this what they mean when someone says "trolling"?

No, not at all. I was merely making a reference to what I think might be forthcoming due to Patrick's diagram.

In fact, your post is much more of a trolling nature directed at me specifically in order to illicit nothing but an emotional response.

 

[8pack]

Much like making the decision to get off your butt to go for a walk! The most complicated part, walking (and all the motions your body must do to complete the task)...is done subconsciously!

Not sure its the same. I would say there's a little thinking involved during the aiming process but not so much for walking.

 

[ENGLISH!]

I don't think you'll see it like this, you don't wanna be right on the cte line like your picture shows. (need to see it from an offset... i think)

I agreed with you, Anthony.

As I understand it, one has to be on the line that bisects the two lines so that one 'sees' them from equal offsets which puts one on the line between them. That 'fixes' the cue ball & the 'new' center of which to pivot.

If so, you can not have one diagram that shows the alignment of more than one at a time.

The thing is 'that' will be the same regardless of the angle to the pocket if done only objectively.

I know you know that.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Where have I ever mentioned that I was a great player? Search away. You are assuming and that is making a ass out of you.

Best improve your reading comprehension.

I am a strong player on the way to being great, but it has nothing to do with the system I use, but how I practice with the system I use.

A properly structured practice regime with keeping a dairy is better than any system out there, even what I suggest. No system can be effective with proper practice.

Its real easy to play me.....just show up and ask.....if you dare.

Be careful what you ask for.

I seem to remember you disappearing on a forum member who made arrangements to play you some time ago. In fact we heard nobody at edgies even knew who you are.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

No, not at all. I was merely making a reference to what I think might be forthcoming due to Patrick's diagram.

In fact, your post is much more of a trolling nature directed at me specifically in order to illicit nothing but an emotional response.

Your post is an attempt at stirring the pot.

That is my opinion.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Your post is an attempt at stirring the pot.

That is my opinion.

Not my intent at all.

It was merely a general reaction to seeing Patrick's diagram & what I see that it might bring forth.

It was made to no one in particular.

What is your 'opinion' of your last two posts that were made directly toward specific individuals?

Best 2 You & All.

 

[BeiberLvr]

Where have I ever mentioned that I was a great player? Search away. You are assuming and that is making a ass out of you.

Best improve your reading comprehension.

I am a strong player on the way to being great, but it has nothing to do with the system I use, but how I practice with the system I use.

A properly structured practice regime with keeping a dairy is better than any system out there, even what I suggest. No system can be effective with proper practice.

Its real easy to play me.....just show up and ask.....if you dare.

You've mentioned it duckles.

Plenty of posts about how great your CB control is, and how people (that must not play pool) have actually called you, "the bank master." Your words, not mine.

 

[BeiberLvr]

You're a guitarist. Wouldn't you say it's similar to the way you learn to play the blues?

First you learn your pentatonic major scale: 1-4, 1-3, 1-3, 1-3, 1-4, 1-4. You practice it over and over again, even though it doesn't sound like music. Then you learn four more finger patterns to play the same scale, and you practice them until you have them. Then you start working on your pentatonic minor scales until you perfect them. This is your "aiming system" for the guitar. And thankfully, there's not a million of them to choose from. Lol

Next you start to try to apply these scales to some music, so you play along to some Albert King, and sure enough, these scales fit right into the music, just like you were promised. But it doesn't sound too good, and you still have to think about where your fingers are, and where they are going. Then one day you pick the damn thing up, put on some early Clapton, and it just comes out of you. Not perfectly, not every line, but you're doing it without thinking, even though your fingers are going to the same notes in those scales you've been practicing.

If you keep it up and play 12 hours a day (like I did in my misspent youth), you may finally arrive at a point where the notes and chords just flow from your mind directly to your fingers. Your tone gets better, your picking gets precise, your string bends get tastier, your rhythm gets rock solid, and your solos, well... they just kick ass.

Or...

You can just pick the damn thing up, put on some Stevie Ray, crank the amp to 11, and try to play along... for years, usually.


Either method works fine, but it is usually the former method that is taught professionally, and the latter method when you teach yourself. Which guys play better? Well, technically, the method guys are usually the best, but their music often seems to lack those ethereal qualities like "soul" and "style" and "creativity". Are these useful things for a pool player to have? Don't ask me, I'm self-taught in both.

Probably just a minor mistake on your part, but I have to point it out.

That's actually the pentatonic minor scale.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=5076835#post5076835
or
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5076839&postcount=240

Here are your words Ducky, exactly what is your meaning here? So at the time this was written (last month) you state you are a pro level player, now you say you are a strong player on the way to being great.

Have you regressed?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
There's only one solution to this one; a scientist must develop the skills to become a pro level player.

Hurry up, Patrick!
I am a pro level player........

Take what is useful and develop from there-Bruce Lee-Tao of Jeet Kune Do
Adam GB2 cue
Straight pool rookie, 8 ball lover

Where have I ever mentioned that I was a great player? Search away. You are assuming and that is making a ass out of you.

Best improve your reading comprehension.

I am a strong player on the way to being great, but it has nothing to do with the system I use, but how I practice with the system I use.

A properly structured practice regime with keeping a dairy is better than any system out there, even what I suggest. No system can be effective with proper practice.

Its real easy to play me.....just show up and ask.....if you dare.

 

[Sloppy Pockets]

Probably just a minor mistake on your part, but I have to point it out.

That's actually the pentatonic minor scale.

Yes, good catch.

I'm actually a fingerstyle acoustic player, and only have a passing knowledge of scales. I was just speaking generically to make my point about how people can learn to play without having to think about it.

I take it you play well enough to see that mistake straight out. I wonder how many pool players also play a musical instrument well. Seems to me they both tap into similar parts of the mind.

 

[(((Satori)))]

I don't know if this is still being discussed, but to give a sense of what CTE's "visual" is, here's a drawing of the CTE line (for a left cut) and the three main aimpoint lines (A, B & C)* that are used to find the "visual" for each shot.

It's not precise, but it gives a fair approximation of where the lines are for this CB/OB distance. (If the balls are closer together the A/B/C lines fan out wider and if the balls are farther apart the A/B/C lines get more parallel.)

pj
chgo

*(1/8 aimpoint is omitted for simplicity)

View attachment 1971

This is why I say even the visuals are not objective. If anyone tells me they can align ceter to edge and edge to C both at the same time... all I can say is they dont see like I do. I can get equally off on both lines, meaning one line might head 1/4 inch to one side of cte and the other line will be 1/4 inch to the other side of edge to c... but it is impossible for me to line them both up. I honestly think some people fool themselves into thinking 5hey have both lines lined up. Maybe they do? I cant see through their eyes so I dont know.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I don't think you'll see it like this, you don't wanna be right on the cte line like your picture shows. (need to see it from an offset... i think)

Yes, I didn't try to show how any single "visual" might look, just where the lines are in relation to each other so you could get a sense of how they might work together. Since the CTE line is part of every visual, I chose that one as the "line of sight".

Notice my comment about how the aimpoint lines change with the distance between CB and OB - especially when they're close together the lines change a lot with any change in distance.

pj
chgo