Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

[ENGLISH!]

OK, cookie man, thanks for engaging me in this on the forum. Stick with me on this... Stan says ETA is the correct visual for each of the 3 shots, although it is a bit of a stretch for the last shot. He has trouble finding the visual at first, and then gets it. I don't get why the location of the pocket changes anything. When I try this set up, ETA is the same for all 3 shots. In fact, it is impossible to find ETA and CTE from any other place but just one standing position and that position is the same for all 3 shots when I try it. What is Stan doing that I am missing?

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[ENGLISH!]

You need to move one dimension over.

Thanks for the chuckle.:wink:

 

[JB Cases]

Not even plural & know what the question is, but again... GAMES & talking around.

I wonder if you all know how the general readership sees all of these games & the constant refusal to answer what should be a simple question if CTE were a truly objective system.

State your one single question. Preferably without providing the answer you want to see.

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[ENGLISH!]

I'll sum it up here: The three shots are made with the same visuals. They are not made with the same perspectives. The perspective is what you want to do with the shot. That is, do I want to cut it, bank it, what. Your visual intelligence that is required tells you about where to stand to accomplish your objective.

Once in the approximate alignment to achieve your goal, you then look for your visuals. From the proper perspective, there will only be one place to find the visuals. However, there are several perspectives that one can find the visuals from. Again, that is where visual intelligence comes into play.

What your visuals and pivot due for you is fine tune your alignment onto the proper shot line to make the shot.

So, if you were to set up the three shots, all parallel to the rail with ob and cb, but different distances from the side rail for each shot, and then make a mark one each ob 90 from the rail at the spot closest to the side rail, you then have a mark at the exact edge looking at the ob from the end rail straight on.

Now, where most go wrong, is that they think that is the edge one sees for all three shots. It is not. It is not because of your perspective of the shot. Each shot you are initially aligned a little bit differently which actually gives you a different edge for each shot.

Thanks for the laugh.:rotflmao1:

 

[Neil]

Thanks for the laugh.:rotflmao1:

Yeah, it was probably WAY over your head to understand. But, in any case, you got your answer that you have been crying for, and then you scoff at it. Thanks once again for showing your true colors and what you are doing in this thread.

 

[JB Cases]

And yet Dan you are that devoted to learning but won't contact Stan? I don't get it.

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[ENGLISH!]

This is the core of my thinking as well plus all the other variables like spin, squirt, swerve, cling, gearing effects. Like a moon shot they all go in the computer.

Please take this as intended.

You are a man of plain old simple common sense.:wink:

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[ENGLISH!]

The science does not matter. Show us the math behind gb and explain how it helps anyone use gb

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Brilliant!

Simply Brilliant!

 

[ENGLISH!]

I am too stupid to think critically but I can follow directions.

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Well... I might be able to agree with that after this night.:wink:

But seriously... then you should not be in any discussion about why it works or why it is working for you vs the reality of it or why it works or is not working for others.

I've said in other threads that if it works for any individual then that is all that might matter to that individual.

Then there are others that want to know why something is or is not working.

Maybe to keep your promise to Hal, you should just say this came for the roots of Hal Houle & perhaps you should try it & see if you like it. Enough said.

Our National Motto.

 

[KRJ]

Thanks for the laugh.:rotflmao1:

What, did you finally post your extensive qualifications. I missed it, darn :grin:

 

[ENGLISH!]

Oh, believe me, the definitely see how you ignore the answer given once again and then claim no answer was given.

What they should see is that I was totally ignoring you until I almost fell off my chair laughing at the answer you gave.

Just because you gave a response to a question does not mean the question has been answered.

It seems that you do not even understand the question.

I do find it a bit odd how you know about who else sent Dan PMs.

Back to ignoring you.

 

[Neil]

What, did you finally post your extensive qualifications. I missed it, darn :grin:

No, he just got caught with his pants down again. He cried in a number of posts that no one would give the answer. The answer that was already given, by the way. Then, when he finally read the answer, he had no idea what the words even mean, so it went right over his head. Rather than admit that he was ignorant to what it meant, he decided to just laugh at the answer to make himself feel better about being ignorant about it, and for making such a fool of himself for not reading it sooner.

Just the same 'ol same 'ol game he plays. Pretty soon he will be making more posts about not getting the answer.

 

[one stroke]

Really? All that to say pool is more than aiming?

We agree.

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No all that to say traditional aiming methods have been the gold standard of foundation since the beginning of time we learn those solid foundations first then if we choose to seek a asset aside from those we have the foundation that's proven to check it against
Yes young Shuffet has done nice in national titles while Ko boys are winning world titles


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[ENGLISH!]

State your one single question. Preferably without providing the answer you want to see.

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It's been stated by Dan & Myself numerous times. if you really want to know what it is you should go back & find it.

I've already wasted enough time restating it multiple times.

And as I've said, I don't expect any real answer form you.

You're here for your own purposes which is not the truth.

You've already said that you would not answer it for Dan. So why would you answer it for me?

AND as I just pointed out to another. Just giving a response does not mean that the question is answered.

Perhaps you should get up tomorrow & read this thread & put things in perspective.

 

[Neil]

What they should see is that I was totally ignoring you until I almost fell off my chair laughing at the answer you gave.

Just because you gave a response to a question does not mean the question has been answered.

It seems that you do not even understand the question.

I do find it a bit odd how you know about who else sent Dan PMs.

Back to ignoring you.

Typical of you, cry for answers, and then ignore and scoff at the answers because you have no understanding of the system in the first place. Don't forget to cry some more.

 

[LAMas]

I'll sum it up here: The three shots are made with the same visuals. They are not made with the same perspectives. The perspective is what you want to do with the shot. That is, do I want to cut it, bank it, what. Your visual intelligence that is required tells you about where to stand to accomplish your objective.

Once in the approximate alignment to achieve your goal, you then look for your visuals. From the proper perspective, there will only be one place to find the visuals. However, there are several perspectives that one can find the visuals from. Again, that is where visual intelligence comes into play.

What your visuals and pivot due for you is fine tune your alignment onto the proper shot line to make the shot.

So, if you were to set up the three shots, all parallel to the rail with ob and cb, but different distances from the side rail for each shot, and then make a mark one each ob 90 from the rail at the spot closest to the side rail, you then have a mark at the exact edge looking at the ob from the end rail straight on.

Now, where most go wrong, is that they think that is the edge one sees for all three shots. It is not. It is not because of your perspective of the shot. Each shot you are initially aligned a little bit differently which actually gives you a different edge for each shot.

Neil,

This a helpful explanation.

Perspective needs two eyes. Using both eyes, one can establish a centered line to an edge. If one can toggle between both eyes to make one and the other dominant, then the edge of the OB seems to move depending on which eye is made dominant forcing one to move his stance a bit to the left or right. Close one eye end then the other to experience this - I do.

This can create 3 positions center, a bit to the left or a bit to the right and result in 3 cut angles with "the same visual". I can do that though I am right eye dominant.

This may not be what you are proffering, but it works for me.

Thanks

 

[JB Cases]

Well... I might be able to agree with that after this night.:wink:

But seriously... then you should not be in any discussion about why it works or why it is working for you vs the reality of it or why it works or is not working for others.

I've said in other threads that if it works for any individual then that is all that might matter to that individual.

Then there are others that want to know why something is or is not working.

Maybe to keep your promise to Hal, you should just say this came for the roots of Hal Houle & perhaps you should try it & see if you like it. Enough said.

Our National Motto.

I simply gave my own experience as my opening post in this thread. I guess you should not be in it either since you don't know how it works by your responses.

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[JB Cases]

Well... I might be able to agree with that after this night.:wink:

But seriously... then you should not be in any discussion about why it works or why it is working for you vs the reality of it or why it works or is not working for others.

I've said in other threads that if it works for any individual then that is all that might matter to that individual.

Then there are others that want to know why something is or is not working.

Maybe to keep your promise to Hal, you should just say this came for the roots of Hal Houle & perhaps you should try it & see if you like it. Enough said.

Our National Motto.

Did you say you had a question?

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[Neil]

Neil,

This a helpful explanation.

Perspective needs two eyes. Using both eyes, one can establish a centered line to an edge. If one can toggle between both eyes to make one and the other dominant, then the edge of the OB seems to move depending on which eye is made dominant forcing one to move his stance a bit to the left or right. Close one eye end then the other to experience this - I do.

This can create 3 positions center, a bit to the left or a bit to the right and result in 3 cut angles with "the same visual". I can do that though I am right eye dominant.

This may not be what you are proffering, but it works for me.

Thanks

The big thing is ones initial perspective. Which comes from visual intelligence. That means if I put the ob one diamond from the left rail and one diamond from the side pocket, then put the cb in line with it one diamond from the end rail, I need some visual intelligence to know approximately where to stand to cut the ball in the far corner.

I can't be standing off by the right side rail and expect to make it, nor can I expect to stand near the right corner pocket and expect to be able to see the angle to make it. Nor can I stand even a little to the right of the cb and see it properly. There is one obvious place, one objective place to stand to have a reasonable chance of making the ball. Everyone can find that spot rather easily.

From that objective perspective, one then applies the visuals. From that rough spot, there is only one place to see the visuals correctly.

Now, if I want to bank the ball, there is another perspective for that. In this case, it happens to be fairly near to the place for cutting the ball in the corner, but clearly is a different perspective of the shot. From that place, one can also find the visuals for banking the ball.

So, if one is missing by diamonds, either they have no visual intelligence towards pool, or their initial perspective of the shot is scewed to start with. With a fairly decent stroke, one should at least be coming very close to making the shot if their perspective of it was correct to start with and they found the visuals and made the correct sweep or pivot.

For each of the three shots, one has to have a different perspective for each of them. Just like they would when aiming by feel. Again, your perspective is where you are initially lined up to sight in the shot. For the three shots, if one looks closely, you will find that you are actually angled a little more to the shots farthest from the rail.

When attaining the proper perspective of the shot, the pocket general area is important. You have to have a general idea of what direction you want the ob to go to. Once you have your perspective, the pocket is out of the equation, and once you have your visuals and a locked cb and determine which direction to pivot, the ob is out of the equation.

edit: Again, your perspective is your rough line that you need the cue to be on to make the shot. CTE then fine tunes that line to line you up to center pocket with no english.

 

[JB Cases]

No all that to say traditional aiming methods have been the gold standard of foundation since the beginning of time we learn those solid foundations first then if we choose to seek a asset aside from those we have the foundation that's proven to check it against
Yes young Shuffet has done nice in national titles while Ko boys are winning world titles


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The Ko kids will be broke when Landon is earning millions. Landon knows what's important in life having grown up watching broke world champions.

God forbid Landon ever beat one of them you might have a heart attack.

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