You-tube ripping us off must read

I turned it off after I heard her actual voice and then "OK, hold on let me add you, so it's J-a-s-o-n H-u-n-t" he replies "they call me Buffalo"

Those 2 in one conversation was just too much.



Well, lol. Yes. CrazyErica's site uses a theme that isn't the one we usually use for live streaming. Her site is crazy. Yes I agree its very dark, and hard to read, but it's her site, and we're working on making it a bit more friendly.

As far as watching for 2 minutes, we did shut down for a while, and re-started for a hour long discussion.. Our video player when experiencing bandwidth issues from either side will play a commercial and retry the stream in a loop every 8 seconds after the commercial/promo video is played.
 
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Richie Vs Hugo&Barry Strickland 9-3 !!!

dont miss this ! this stream is sponsored by Big Tyme Billiards in Houston Texas!

They Paid for the stream so that all of you could watch and enjoy the stream for free! Thank you for watching!


http://www.crazyerica.com/live

Maybe he doesn't care, but if there was a picture of me holding a joint, I wouldn't want it plastered on the internet.
 
So YouTube hosts out of Hong Kong? or is it Singapore:

info I found:

IT Works Interactive Pte Ltd
2 International Business Park
#01-26 Tower 2, The Strategy
Singapore 609930

https://www.iwi.com.sg/
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Looks like hosting service (ISP) you are going thru St. Louis.

Hosting Solutions International, Inc.
210 N Tucker Blvd Suite 910, St. Louis, MO 63101
(314) 300-2200
(866) 324-5749

• Location: United States, Missouri, Saint Louis
• IPv4 Address: 209.126.117.80
• IPv4 Hostname: ospn.apleagues.net
• Nameservers: ns2.onsitepool.net, ns1.onsitepool.net
• ISP: hosting solutions international inc.
• Last Update: December 18th, 2015

Nice homework. We have servers all over. ;)
 
Blah blah blah, blahbitty blah blah blah.

How's that for unbeknownst to me? You're talking to a web developer/analyst. You can't techno babble me buddy.

Have a nice day :)

You being a web developer/analyst should put this argument in our court. Or at least I'd hope you'd have your customers best interests in mind. Please tell me you don't develop a website by which your divert their web traffic having "lazy developer" skillz. :)
 
This whole website looks like something a teenager would make for his first web development class in high school.

What the hell is going on there? Is this all a huge joke?
 
YouTube isn't ripping anybody off, its a free service that allows users to upload videos and the user of the video can be compensated if desired. The issues of people not getting compensated in the video is between the person who uploaded the video and those in the video. YouTube is not to blame.

TL;DR YouTube isn't at fault and OP has misdirected anger issues.
 
YouTube isn't ripping anybody off, its a free service that allows users to upload videos and the user of the video can be compensated if desired. The issues of people not getting compensated in the video is between the person who uploaded the video and those in the video. YouTube is not to blame.

You fell into the honey hole and gave to much thought to the headline. :)

We all understand what YouTube does. The point that is often missed in this thread (and other threads on the subject) is "potential" revenue our industry misses out upon and not necessarily the player represented in an uploaded video. Though, it would be nice to financially compensate players.

The original message from CrazyErica does not mention to the slightest of degree that YouTube is bad for pool. Nor does it campaign a boycott of YouTube by the billiard industry.

The point that many seem to miss because of a negative disposition by many in the troll world, is YouTube has amassed hundreds of thousands of billiard videos by no fault of anyone directly. With simple arithmetic, landing on a figure of missed revenue, is quite large. Large enough to take notice.

It's been fun! Back to work.
 
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You fell into the honey hole and gave to much thought to the headline. :)

We all understand what YouTube does. The point that is often missed in this thread (and other threads on the subject) is "potential" revenue our industry misses out upon and not necessarily the player represented in an uploaded video. Though, it would be nice to financially compensate players.

The original message from CrazyErica does not mention to the slightest of degree that YouTube is bad for pool. Nor does it campaign a boycott of YouTube by the billiard industry.

The point that many seem to miss because of a negative disposition by many in the troll world, is YouTube has amassed hundreds of thousands of billiard videos by no fault of anyone directly. With simple arithmetic, landing on a figure of missed revenue, is quite large. Large enough to take notice.

It's been fun! Back to work.

Actualy the number is quite small considering the amount of videos we are talking about spread among the players they might be able to buy a cup of coffee
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You fell into the honey hole and gave to much thought to the headline. :)

We all understand what YouTube does. The point that is often missed in this thread (and other threads on the subject) is "potential" revenue our industry misses out upon and not necessarily the player represented in an uploaded video. Though, it would be nice to financially compensate players.

The original message from CrazyErica does not mention to the slightest of degree that YouTube is bad for pool. Nor does it campaign a boycott of YouTube by the billiard industry.

The point that many seem to miss because of a negative disposition by many in the troll world, is YouTube has amassed hundreds of thousands of billiard videos by no fault of anyone directly. With simple arithmetic, landing on a figure of missed revenue, is quite large. Large enough to take notice.

It's been fun! Back to work.



So..... You posted a bogus clickbait title, then blame everyone else for missing the point?! Riiiiight.

You don't understand that the issue isn't youtube, or any other website. The website is irrelevant. Completely. The problem (that only actually exists in your head, and anyone simple enough to believe you without doing any due diligence) can be fixed by drafting a template streaming contract for players to download and print out. But you're not interested in doing that because you can't make any money for yourself that way.

You still haven't cited your source of the alleged missing income amounts oft quoted ($500,000) and how you will free it up. Until you do that, you are going to continue to get appropriately dismissive responses. And of course, you won't and can't do that because this whole thing is utter garbage. :thumbup:
 
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So..... You posted a bogus clickbait title, then blame everyone else for missing the point?! Riiiiight.

You don't understand that the issue isn't youtube, or any other website. The website is irrelevant. Completely. The problem (that only actually exists in your head, and anyone simple enough to believe you without doing any due diligence) can be fixed by drafting a template streaming contract for players to download and print out. But you're not interested in doing that because you can't make any money for yourself that way.

You still haven't cited your source of the alleged missing income streams and how you will free it up. Until you do that, you are going to continue to get appropriately dismissive responses. And of course, you won't and can't do that because this whole thing is utter garbage. :thumbup:

He also said they weren't yet making any advertising money otherwise, despite the fact that Erica claimed to be in that business. Too many holes in the "plan" and trying to start big without even being successful small.
 
You don't understand that the issue isn't youtube, or any other website. The website is irrelevant. Completely. The problem (that only actually exists in your head, and anyone simple enough to believe you without doing any due diligence) can be fixed by drafting a template streaming contract for players to download and print out. But you're not interested in doing that because you can't make any money for yourself that way.

You still haven't cited your source of the alleged missing income amounts oft quoted ($500,000) and how you will free it up. Until you do that, you are going to continue to get appropriately dismissive responses. And of course, you won't and can't do that because this whole thing is utter garbage. :thumbup:

hrmm. Utter garbage? I would say each billiard video on YouTube produces $2 a year in monetization and ad clicks. So that leaves you to solve the basic math problem. :)

We're not in the business to draft contracts for players who feel they've been let down or violated. You've again missed the point. The point quite simply as a whole, we should be amassing billiard videos on a neutral host until there's enough revenue from monetization and ad clicks, and then share that revenue with the industry.

If all the energy here was spent building up ideas instead of tearing them down, we'd actually have a lucrative industry. Keep on keeping on...
 
Actualy the number is quite small considering the amount of videos we are talking about spread among the players they might be able to buy a cup of coffee
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What's $2 x 200,000 ?

Answer?
 
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hrmm. Utter garbage? I would say each billiard video on YouTube produces $2 a year in monetization and ad clicks. So that leaves you to solve the basic math problem. :)

We're not in the business to draft contracts for players who feel they've been let down or violated. You've again missed the point. The point quite simply as a whole, we should be amassing billiard videos on a neutral host until there's enough revenue from monetization and ad clicks, and then share that revenue with the industry.

If all the energy here was spent building up ideas instead of tearing them down, we'd actually have a lucrative industry. Keep on keeping on...

Yes, utter garbage. At least we agree on that.

It really doesn't matter if you "say" each billiard video produces $2 or $2,000. Until you can elucidate with facts referenced to credible sources, it's hokum and should be ignored as such!

Put up, or shut up.
 
Yes, utter garbage. At least we agree on that.

It really doesn't matter if you "say" each billiard video produces $2 or $2,000. Until you can elucidate with facts referenced to credible sources, it's hokum and should be ignored as such!

Put up, or shut up.

Creditable sources? There are several. $5 per 1000 views. So if you want to take the high side and let us know what that basic math equates. I'd be happier with a $2.4million assesment, than the conservative figure of $500k. :)

Also to bust your hokum theory. $5 per 1000 with the leader in the live streaming world since 2006 (Inside Pool), equates for about $32k a year in revenue from YouTube. Ba humbug. I could only imagine the missed revenue from Ustream.
 
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Creditable sources? There are several. $5 per 1000 views. So if you want to take the high side and let us know what that basic math equates. I'd be happier with a $2.4million assesment, than the conservative figure of $500k. :)

It would be less embarrassing for you to simply admit you're making it all up. :rolleyes:
 
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