Need to change my tip, looking for a brand to try!
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Why do you say KiTech for fun?
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It's called Longasy tips, not even available yet, they're planning to release it in the next 2 weeks or so. You can find more videos if you search for "Longasy tips" on facebook
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It's interesting to see the difference in hardness ratings between the http://billiards.colostate.edu/resou...ness_chart.pdf link and https://www.pooldawg.com/article/pooldawg-library/the-ultimate-pool-cue-tip-guide. In particular look at the difference in the hardness ratings between the Elk Master and the Moori Soft between the two websites. They are off as much as 8-9 points. I would defer to the colostate link, but you would think that there would be more uniformity in durometer testing and what the companies are calling soft, medium and hard.
I switched from a Moori medium which mushroomed too much (don't get me started) to a G2 medium. The G2 "medium" however is pretty doggone hard. In fact, it's hardness rating is 80.1 according to pooldawg, which is harder than Ultraskin's hardest tip, the HH (78.7). In talking with a lot of people though, I have heard good things, and I am thinking about switching to an ultraskin. However, according to the ultraskin website, the hardness rating difference from a medium to a soft is over 7 points.
So, long story longer, if you have used both the Ultraskin Soft and Medium, which do you prefer? I'm looking for feel, a tiny bit of extra spin, and very low tip maintenance.
I switched from a Moori medium which mushroomed too much (don't get me started) to a G2 medium. The G2 "medium" however is pretty doggone hard. In fact, it's hardness rating is 80.1 according to pooldawg, which is harder than Ultraskin's hardest tip, the HH (78.7). In talking with a lot of people though, I have heard good things, and I am thinking about switching to an ultraskin. However, according to the ultraskin website, the hardness rating difference from a medium to a soft is over 7 points.
So, long story longer, if you have used both the Ultraskin Soft and Medium, which do you prefer? I'm looking for feel, a tiny bit of extra spin, and very low tip maintenance.
Are they actually blue?? That'd be good looking
What I'm also trying to figure out, is how soft/hard I want to try my new tip. I only player with kamui supersoft and soft (once tried moori medium), but I'm tempted to try something harder.
From what I understand, harder will make the cueball travel faster (using same speed) than a soft would. Other than that, softer tip will produce a bit more spin.
Any other factor I should consider?
Are they actually blue?? That'd be good looking
What I'm also trying to figure out, is how soft/hard I want to try my new tip. I only player with kamui supersoft and soft (once tried moori medium), but I'm tempted to try something harder.
From what I understand, harder will make the cueball travel faster (using same speed) than a soft would. Other than that, softer tip will produce a bit more spin.
Any other factor I should consider?
If you're not going to break with it, I wouldn't worry about making the cue ball travel faster.
Players just appreciate different feedback from the variety of hardness in tips available.
Softer tips tend to be more forgiving with your stroke. More advanced players as a general rule play with medium or harder tips due to their superior stroke.
Different strokes for different folks.
Like the blue of the Zan, too.
I love the kamikaze brown. I've used mooris for years and these are just as good. I just had a top cue repair guy install one on a rick howard cue i have,and he said it "cut" just as good as a moori and that it was better than the other layered tips mentioned here. Said he would be looking into possibly carrying them in the future as he had not heard of them before.
Softer tips don't produce more spin. The difference is negligible but a harder tip produces more spin. Forgiveness is BS too.
Try the Longoni soft (plays like a medium). I really liked how it plays for a layered tip.
Something else to note is that most pros play with their tip shaved down. This makes their tips feel effectively like a medium/hard at the end of its life.
Ki Tech would be another one to try if you want a consistent tip.
Why do they intentionnally shave it down?
Mine has like 1 full layer left plus the round part of the tip. I kinda like it better when shaved down and it looks better
Ideally, when installing a new tip, how many layer do you leave on?
Good poll someone did on here not too long ago -
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=409229&highlight=poll+favorite
My 2 cents to add -
Tips are a personal preference. The pros use all different kinds for all different reasons. Sam Diepp used to do a "what's in the case" interview and I swear every pro had a different tip and reason. People on az all have different opinions, as you can tell from the poll. Also, people tend to argue quality when talking about a "good tip', which muddles the conversation. I don't think you're asking about how long the tip will last, I think you're asking about playability.
For playability, I think Ultraskin is the best. But that's just my personal preference.
Honorable mention - G2, Ki-Tech (different kind of tip with a really interesting hit), that 1 good LePro in a box of 50 if you can find it, Onyx
Least favorite - Kamui (tried them all, ripped them all off. I swear these tips are all junk but people are brainwashed by the marketing)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=409229&highlight=poll+favorite
My 2 cents to add -
Tips are a personal preference. The pros use all different kinds for all different reasons. Sam Diepp used to do a "what's in the case" interview and I swear every pro had a different tip and reason. People on az all have different opinions, as you can tell from the poll. Also, people tend to argue quality when talking about a "good tip', which muddles the conversation. I don't think you're asking about how long the tip will last, I think you're asking about playability.
For playability, I think Ultraskin is the best. But that's just my personal preference.
Honorable mention - G2, Ki-Tech (different kind of tip with a really interesting hit), that 1 good LePro in a box of 50 if you can find it, Onyx
Least favorite - Kamui (tried them all, ripped them all off. I swear these tips are all junk but people are brainwashed by the marketing)
I only have a couple years experience with some of the layered tips. Wizard hard was too hard and miscued too much.
Wizard medium played too soft of a feel and still miscued more than it should. G2 medium was too soft for the first month, then hardened perfectly for the rest of its mediocre life. Occasional miscue.
Ultraskin medium has been stable and perfect for the past 3 months with essentially no miscues. I ordered more Ultraskin mediums for when my current tip eventually wears out.
Wizard medium played too soft of a feel and still miscued more than it should. G2 medium was too soft for the first month, then hardened perfectly for the rest of its mediocre life. Occasional miscue.
Ultraskin medium has been stable and perfect for the past 3 months with essentially no miscues. I ordered more Ultraskin mediums for when my current tip eventually wears out.