Elephant Ball/Draw Stroke Analysis

I guess you think that is funny.

Who is this "us" of which you speak.

Did you not once meet with CJ with the intent of coming back & giving a review of "TOI" here? If I remember correctly it entailed all of something like, 'It's not bad'.

I've asked several times now in several locations with no answer from anyone.

Can you tell "us" all why you are no longer President of the PBIA?

Thanks in Advance,
Rick

PS If anyone else is really interested in TOI, one can do a search & see what CJ, himself had to say.



Sorry, I was NEVER President of the PBIA. Co- founder, past chair-person maybe BUT never President.

randyg
 
Sorry, I was NEVER President of the PBIA. Co- founder, past chair-person maybe BUT never President.

randyg

If my question was inaccurately worded, can you advised how it should have been worded & then provide an informative explanation.

Thanks.
 
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If my question was inaccurately worded, can you advised how it should have been worded & then provide an answer.

Thanks.

After he asked you a polite, simple question, and you went off on him, why should he answer you yet again? (I say again, because you obviously can't understand the answer he did give)
 
If there is anyone out there that got why RandyG's position with the PBIA has changed based on his response to me, can you please restate it in a manner that I & others might understand.

All I got from it was what he was not, was, & may have been.

I did not see any information as to why his status with the PBIA has changed.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can increase my level of understanding.:wink:
 
The 'Games' that certain individuals play is one of the main reasons that get me to post as much as I do & especially the so called 'negative' type.

This thread went in that direction with post #13 & it has been perpetuated by others.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
 
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If there is anyone out there that got why RandyG's position with the PBIA has changed based on his response to me, can you please restate it in a manner that I & others might understand.

All I got from it was what he was not, was, & may have been.

I did not see any information as to why his status with the PBIA has changed.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can increase my level of understanding.:wink:

Why do you care? Stay true to your subtext.

weak minds discuss people. - Perhaps said by Socrates, but inspired by God, I think.
 
The 'Games' that certain individuals play is one of the main reasons that get me to post as much as I do & especially the so called 'negative' type.

This thread went in that direction with post #13 & it has been perpetuated by others.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

What "game" is that, Rick? As was previously stated, Randy asked that question of you for a very specific reason. You have yet to answer it, or explain the post he quoted when he asked it of you.

You say you want discussion, but you never discuss anything. You make declarative statements with no substance behind them, then try and discredit anyone that ask you to explain what you said. Or you go off on some tangent about golf, or baseball, or tiddly winks, or anything but the subject at hand. Why is that, are you really that incapable of backing up what you say?

The thread didn't go south with post #13, that post was the start of a clarifying discussion. It went south with your post that was quoted.

Now, are you going to stop playing your derogatory games and actually discuss it or not? We are waiting on your explanation of what you stated, and the answer to Randy's question.
 
If RandyG does not want to provide an informative explanation, for whatever reason, then so be it.

The matter is closed until perhaps another opens it again.

ALL Best Wishes to All.
 
Why do you care? Stay true to your subtext.

weak minds discuss people. - Perhaps said by Socrates, but inspired by God, I think.

I see that you are from Texas.

It does not surprise me that you might take offense to my question.

It would also not surprise me if you chose to report a post of mine because you see it as something more than a simple question.

I am not discussing the "people person" of Randy. I merely asked why he is no longer a board member & that is a "position" that is relative to the group that has been promoted here.

I think that is simply a relative question as it pertains to the GROUP of PBIA Instructors that have so often been promoted & 'advertised' here.

Best Wishes for You & Yours.
 
I see that you are from Texas.

It does not surprise me that you might take offense to my question.

It would also not surprise me if you chose to report a post of mine because you see it as something more than a simple question.

I am not discussing the "people person" of Randy. I merely asked why he is no longer a board member & that is a "position" that is relative to the group that has been promoted here.

I think that is simply a relative question as it pertains to the GROUP of PBIA Instructors that have so often been promoted & 'advertised' here.

Best Wishes for You & Yours.

It has nothing to do with the "group", and you know it. It is nothing more than another sickening attempt on your part to try and discredit Randy and the PBIA. You aren't fooling anyone on here. How or when the board of directors changes is none of your of anyone elses business.

You are so fixated on discrediting others on here, but refuse to actually talk about the pool topic. Trolling at it's finest.
 
I do not think that Randy's 'question' to me was serious at all & to what purpose if it was indeed serious when put in an overly simplistic manner & as I stated, he supposedly had a meeting with CJ to discuss it. Perhaps HE should enlighten us, but it seems that he is a man of extremely few words when not being paid to speak.

I merely used TOI when referencing a factor related to an aspect relative to the topic.

I also suggested that anyone truly interested in TOI to do a search & see for themselves what CJ himself had to say about it.

As usual you twist, distort, & mis-characterize matters for your ulterior motives & agendas.

I am seriously trying to ignore you as I think others should do too, but you make it difficult when you virtually never relay any matter accurately.

All Best Wishes for Everyone.
 
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I do not think that Randy's 'question' to me was serious at all & to what purpose if it was indeed serious when put in an overly simplistic manner & as I stated, he supposedly had a meeting with CJ to discuss it. Perhaps HE should enlighten us, but it seems that he is a man of extremely few words when not being paid to speak.

I merely used TOI when referencing a factor related to an aspect relative to the topic.

I also suggested that anyone truly interested in TOI to do a search & see for themselves what CJ himself had to say about it.

As usual you twist, distort, & mis-characterize matters for your ulterior motives & agendas.

I am seriously trying to ignore you as I think others should do too, but you make it difficult when you virtually never relay any matter accurately.

All Best Wishes for Everyone.

In other words, you aren't going to discuss it, because you can't discuss what you don't even understand. YOU made declarative statements about TOI which are false. Randy asked you a simple question, and you don't even understand the question, let alone the answer.

You only want to ignore me because you can't answer even the basic questions about that which you post. Guess it's easier for you to just insult others than actually discuss pool.
 
In other words, you aren't going to discuss it, because you can't discuss what you don't even understand. YOU made declarative statements about TOI which are false. Randy asked you a simple question, and you don't even understand the question, let alone the answer.

You only want to ignore me because you can't answer even the basic questions about that which you post. Guess it's easier for you to just insult others than actually discuss pool.

This thread was not the place to discuss TOI.

If Randy truthfully wanted to discuss it, then he can open a thread for that purpose.

I know what CJ intends his version of TOI to be & I know what playing an individual shot with a Touch of Inside hit on the CB can do & does depending on the speed of the hit.

Why don't you try to play your GAMES somewhere else, perhaps on Facebook where individuals can just cut your access off & do not need to constantly try to ignore your crap.

Mr. Wilson warned you what was likely & I can certainly see you trying to martyr yourself in your eyes & mind.

BUT... as to questions... why have you NOT answered the question as to why you took the extensive time & put out the rather enormous effort to go back & erase ALL of your older posts when you did that?

Would that be because the reason was illogical, irrational, & extremely immature?

Best Wishes for ALL.
 
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I see that you are from Texas.

It does not surprise me that you might take offense to my question.

It would also not surprise me if you chose to report a post of mine because you see it as something more than a simple question.

I am not discussing the "people person" of Randy. I merely asked why he is no longer a board member & that is a "position" that is relative to the group that has been promoted here.

I think that is simply a relative question as it pertains to the GROUP of PBIA Instructors that have so often been promoted & 'advertised' here.

Best Wishes for You & Yours.

That I am from Texas had absolutely nothing to do with my post. I did red rep you (twice) for openly soliciting personal information on a public forum. I described your actions as poisonous.

Bert
 
This thread was not the place to discuss TOI.

If Randy truthfully wanted to discuss it, then he can open a thread for that purpose.

I know what CJ intends his version of TOI to be & I know what playing an individual shot with a Touch of Inside hit on the CB can do & does depending on the speed of the hit.

Why don't you try to play your GAMES somewhere else, perhaps on Facebook where individuals can just cut your access off & do not need to constantly try to ignore your crap.

Mr. Wilson warned you what was likely & I can certainly see you trying to martyr yourself in your eyes & mind.

BUT... as to questions... why have you NOT answered the question as to why you took the extensive time & put out the rather enormous effort to go back & erase ALL of your older posts when you did that?

Would that be because the reason was illogical, irrational, & extremely immature?

Best Wishes for ALL.

Rick, I'm not playing games, you made a statement about pool and TOI that is false, and goes to basic understanding of cueing. Randy asked you a legit question. Instead of answering it, you have done nothing but deflect, deflect, deflect.

I'm trying to discuss what you stated, and all you wan to do is try and discredit instructors, make threats, ect. Anything but actually discuss what you stated. As to your question about me not answering your question. That is nothing more than another lie of yours to try and discredit me and deflect from the topic. I have answered you several times in the last two days.

Now, are you going to actually discuss the topic, or just continue to troll and deflect and insult?
 
That I am from Texas had absolutely nothing to do with my post. I did red rep you (twice) for openly soliciting personal information on a public forum. I described your actions as poisonous.

Bert

Well you are certainly entitled to your view & opinion.

I do not see anything wrong with asking a question about the position that he held & no longer holds.

As I said, HE & others have used this site to promote & advertise that organization. That being the case, I think the members & visitors of this site should have an explanation.

If HE 'personally' does not wish to provide such that is certainly up to him.

As I have said, possibly elsewhere, that closes the matter, until perhaps someone else opens the door back up.

I think it would be better for Randy to provide an explanation vs someone that may not have the information accurately or the complete information.

It's now what it is.

Best Wishes for You & Yours.

PS Naturally I wish you would not have 'redded' me for simply asking a simple question that might have had a simple answer. Is there a way for me to red rep YOU for that?
 
Rick, I'm not playing games, you made a statement about pool and TOI that is false, and goes to basic understanding of cueing. Randy asked you a legit question. Instead of answering it, you have done nothing but deflect, deflect, deflect.

I'm trying to discuss what you stated, and all you wan to do is try and discredit instructors, make threats, ect. Anything but actually discuss what you stated. As to your question about me not answering your question. That is nothing more than another lie of yours to try and discredit me and deflect from the topic. I have answered you several times in the last two days.

Now, are you going to actually discuss the topic, or just continue to troll and deflect and insult?

Please direct me & others as to where you provided a reason why you went back & erased what probably amounted to thousand of your posts.

Please provide what it was that I said about TOI that YOU & you say Randy sees as false in your opinions.

AND why was that not specifically stated or asked about rather then the extremely simplistic & completely vague reference made by Randy?

I did not know that you could speak for Randy. but if you can then perhaps you would not mind providing an explanation as why he is no longer on the PBIA board?

Best Wishes to ALL.

PS1 ALL you seem to EVER do is Play BS Games.

PS2 All I did was to ask a simple question that very well could have had a very simple answer.
 
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Well you are certainly entitled to your view & opinion.

I do not see anything wrong with asking a question about the position that he held & no longer holds.

As I said, HE & others have used this site to promote & advertise that organization. That being the case, I think the members & visitors of this site should have an explanation.

If HE 'personally' does not wish to provide such that is certainly up to him.

As I have said, possibly elsewhere, that closes the matter, until perhaps someone else opens the door back up.

I think it would be better for Randy to provide an explanation vs someone that may not have the information accurately or the complete information.

It's now what it is.

Best Wishes for You & Yours.

PS Naturally I wish you would not have 'redded' me for simply asking a simple question that might have had a simple answer. Is there a way for me to red rep YOU for that?

Go ahead! In the arena of ideas you were caustically seeking information to support an ad hominem attack. Probably at the top of the list of logical fallacies. Support your ideas with reason and you will hear nothing from me.

Bert
 
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